Yeah, his twitter was sometimes rather odd.
Then again, it was also somewhat impassioned at times! Would have probably been better off just not answering people on there full-stop.
Agreed. I don't think simon has had to put up with half of the dogs abuse Reid (and Sinclaire) have been subjected to. That said his twitter feed was sometimes odd, and like you said perhaps blocking and ignoring would have been the best option.
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If a company is going bust, is it worth £0 or is it worth (in the worst case scenario) £6.4m?
Well, the money is given to a stadium management company.
The stadium is used for international matches - the Olympics in 2012 for instance.
So in theory the Ricoh could be competing with other venues within the EU.
Council QC did his best to blur this, but saying Coventry isn't metropolitan like Copenhagen may not be enough.
I would imagine that ACL may not have been in immediate financial difficulty, however, they could have been in future if resolution of the problem (or alternative tenants) was not found (unknown at the time of the financial assistance).The fact that the refinancing of the debt allowed ACL to offer a significantly reduced rent agreement is more relevant in my eyes, benefitting the club whilst also protecting a community asset.
SISUs argument appears to be based on relatively minor legal points (probably still considered important in these circumstances though). It doesn't go to the route of the reasoning/issue(s). Why are they unhappy that the council took out the bank debt ? Lets be honest it wasn't because they want to ensure that councils around Europe follow the letter of the law in every state aid case ! Its because they wanted to take control of the debt, and in turn the ground, for a reduced price.
Councils make a mess of things all the time, my personal belief though for what its worth, is that the council should be well within their rights to protect a community asset and just because they didn't follow every single letter of the law shouldn't make a difference in this instance.
I think in fairness that if your twitter feed says something like, this is personal and my opinion not my employer's, then I can't see why you're not allowed to engage with people on your own terms rather than that of your employers.
Twitter, imho, is a terrible forum for debate anyway. You're about to deliver your key point, the killer blow, when suddenly you run out of charac
Correct assessment here. This is why the judge's interpretation is crucial. He needs to make a call not necessarily to the letter of the law but in its spirit. If he does he will find in favour of the Council, if not, we're all the poorer.
I think in fairness that if your twitter feed says something like, this is personal and my opinion not my employer's, then I can't see why you're not allowed to engage with people on your own terms rather than that of your employers.
Twitter, imho, is a terrible forum for debate anyway. You're about to deliver your key point, the killer blow, when suddenly you run out of charac
Well, the money is given to a stadium management company.
The stadium is used for international matches - the Olympics in 2012 for instance.
So in theory the Ricoh could be competing with other venues within the EU.
Council QC did his best to blur this, but saying Coventry isn't metropolitan like Copenhagen may not be enough.
Are you working for sisu? That's their argument.
Yeah quite.
The modern age is also (FWIW!) a fine reason why anybody wanting us all to out ourselves on here is crazyNot that I am anything other than hired scum... but I have no great desire to have to reply here as though an employee of my organisation, and nothing but.
Once it's my name upon something, it's dealing with things professionally, and not calling people a twat, even if they are
IIRC, Sisu's agents said it was worth £6.4m without CCFC there... If a company was going bust, would it be worth £6.4m?
who cares about Les Reid, can we not talk about him on a thread about the possible future of CCFC ?
Didn't they say it was worth nothing and the £2 million was charitable?
Didn't they say it was worth nothing and the £2 million was charitable?
No he hasn't (though Rob is trying his best to redress the balance singlehanded it seems), but the reason for that is he didn't make wild claims that were against the views of the majority of his readership without (and this is the important bit) any evidence. Reid would've been fine if he'd either backed his views up or kept them to himself. Instead he let his hatred of the Labour council get in the way and started this ridiculous conspiracy stuff. I think there's a fair bit of arrogance in there, as shown by his comments about SkyBlueSquirrel and other bloggers. He genuinely didn't understand that his word alone is worth no more than anyone else's just because he writes in the Telegraph.
It all depends on the Judges decision. But I must point out that on the State Aid guidance and on there flow chart, it clearly states the importance of notifying the EC if there is any State Aid above 200,000 Euro's, which this was.
But again (broken record time) that was an opinion piece not a news report, and he was well within his rights to express his opinion, regardless of whether the majority agree or not.
I agree that his responses to that abuse were irresponsible.
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Must....not...respond....out of respect for ccfcway...
I think you're reading too much into that. As far as I'm aware (and my job involves spending public money) there isn't a mechanism for notifying the EU.
Surely "state aid" should come from a state- which CCC is not.
Also CCC was acting in the best interests of the local area/economy- which SISU has not- ever.
I am puzzled by the point Coventry is not metropolitan compared to Copenhagen. Its a big city.
I'm very much against SISU actions but I think this technicality could be crucial.
However I agree with others damages is not likely as in reality SISU prompted the whole thing.
Don't follow your Olympic analogy, that's not affecting trade between member states.
It means if money were put into a UK car manufacturer which priced Renault and BMW out of the UK market...that would be state aid.
And Michael Byng enters the room. Geoffrey Robinson for a full house and the pot?
I have multiple personal and work accounts for various purposes.
And Michael Byng enters the room. Geoffrey Robinson for a full house and the pot?
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What do you mean by that?
I'd say Rogues' Gallery, but...
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