Grendel
Well-Known Member
Interesting. So it’s leave voters. Ok so which political parties have had in their manifesto to leave the EU then?
Well actually Leave voters are especially pro monarchy. Fine with unelected officials as head of state, not fine with them in the EU.
I was thinking the argument works just as well in the opposite direction though BSB
I was thinking the argument works just as well in the opposite direction though BSB
Which heads of state in EU countries are inherited?I was thinking the argument works just as well in the opposite direction though BSB
Interesting. So it’s leave voters. Ok so which political parties have had in their manifesto to leave the EU then?
1+1=3
Which heads of state in EU countries are inherited?
Nope
Which political parties wanted to leave the eu
By definition by the way the majority who support the monarchy are labour voters traditionally as well so good luck
anyway which parties supported brexit - answer please
I was responding to BSB point about EU unelected officials. The argument works both ways
The UK also has unelected officials?I was responding to BSB point about EU unelected officials. The argument works both ways
I wasn’t referring to the result, more the tribalism that will engulf us as a consequence.Well I don’t think it would be similar I think it would be an overwhelming victory for remain
Are EU officials not at least appointed to the role on account of some kind of merit for the position?
What on Earth are you on about? Look at the polling anyway-Labour voters split with Tories heavily in favour
She was appointed by national leaders and elected by the European Parliament.Hmmmm…Von Der Leyen ?
Anyway this is a Jubilee thread bit another brexit one. I was just making the point that while you’re right, Leave voters could be classed as hypocrites, the argument could work in reverse ie Remain voters not wanting an unelected head of state but happy with unelected EU officials.
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She was appointed by national leaders and elected by the European Parliament.
She was appointed by national leaders and elected by the European Parliament.
Im on about the only parties who have a pro brexit anti monarch stance
Hmmmm…Von Der Leyen ?
Anyway this is a Jubilee thread not another brexit one. I was just making the point that while you’re right, Leave voters could be classed as hypocrites, the argument could work in reverse ie Remain voters not wanting an unelected head of state but happy with unelected EU officials.
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Not even vaguely related
Well it is as you claim to a socialist but really are a middle class liberal who has a chip on your shoulder as large as a mega chippy
Was she not still appointed to the position? There is no real comparison to be made.
I don’t mind the history of royalty and enjoyed visiting the sights in London. But the whole people worshipping side of things irks me. They, like celebrities, eat, piss, shit and
You started with the comparison…I just replied. They are obviously very different situations. My point regarding VDL was responding to your comment that people get appointed on merit
Hard to disagree.A lifetime of waving, eating banquets and living in palaces. A huge cheer any time you show your face anywhere, really you'd have to be a complete cretin like Charles/Harry/Andrew to mess it up. It's one of the few jobs where 'service' counts as living in immense privilege for no merit
Even if you disagree with the appointment it’s still one up from being born into the role. Go back a few hundred years and the argument was they were handpicked by God.
The truth is we as a country can do a lot better
What would be a lot better
Well basically to be a proper social democracy with a weaker class divide. The Dutch colleagues I once worked with observed quickly that we have a class system ‘on crack’ as my professor put it.
So you despise most of Scandinavia then?
A few more countries we won’t move to then
What?
Most of Scandinavia have a royal family - yes?
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