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higgs

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  • Mar 17, 2018
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If John hartson had of stayed with us would we be back in the premier league now? He would have scored a lot of goals in the championship

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hill83

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  • Mar 17, 2018
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Half decent chance we would have gone back up that first season but I doubt we would have stayed up for much longer after that anyway.
 

oucho

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  • Mar 17, 2018
  • #3
higgs said:
If John hartson had of stayed with us would we be back in the premier league now? He would have scored a lot of goals in the championship
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Funny that injury limited him so much at Wimbledon and, to a lesser extent, us, so much so that moves to Rangers etc fell through due to injury concerns. Then he goes to Celtic and does really well. Would he have stayed fit enough to make a big impact, as he did for Celtic, for us in the Championship? I have my doubts but ultimately the question will remain unanswered....

The bigger question is, we got paid £6m for him and how did we 're-invest' the money? Lee fucking Hughes.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 17, 2018
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More to the point if he'd joined us earlier the season we went down, we might have had a fighting chance of staying up.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 17, 2018
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Deleted member 5849 said:
More to the point if he'd joined us earlier the season we went down, we might have had a fighting chance of staying up.
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Most definitely, I reckon if he'd signed at Christmas we might have been ok
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 17, 2018
  • #6
Should also have sacked strachan and his cone carrying mate
 
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higgs

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  • Mar 17, 2018
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Deleted member 5849 said:
More to the point if he'd joined us earlier the season we went down, we might have had a fighting chance of staying up.
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Agree with you there he played 12 games for us and scored 6 goals had he been with us for longer we could have stayed up

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 17, 2018
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higgs said:
Agree with you there he played 12 games for us and scored 6 goals had he been with us for longer we could have stayed up
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It wasn't just the goals. Strachan was completely incapable of adapting systems, and we spent the first half of the season whacking the ball long to Bellamy. At least Hartson could hold the ball up and bring others into play.
 
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joemercersaces

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  • Mar 17, 2018
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We replaced Robbie Kean with Bellamy. A big reason why we went down as he was next to useless. Missed no end of one on ones. Couldn’t believe it when we offloaded him to Newcastle for about what we paid for him. His subsequent career showed we were just unlucky (that makes a change!). Replaced him with Hughes who Albion didn’t want to sell (Wolves hadn’t wanted to sell Kean but we were the bigger club then!). Had Hartson come a couple of months earlier we’d have stayed up.

Don’t get me started on Strachan. Anyone remember the game against Boro when Hedman could barely stand up and he wouldn’t take him off, probably out of pig-headedness as the whole crowd were crying out for it. On the bench? Chris Kirkland. God knows how he felt. An arrogant, snotty little twat.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 17, 2018
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joemercersaces said:
On the bench? Chris Kirkland. God knows how he felt. An arrogant, snotty little twat.
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Harsh on Kirkland!
 
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SkyBlueRuffian

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  • Mar 17, 2018
  • #11
higgs said:
If John hartson had of stayed with us would we be back in the premier league now? He would have scored a lot of goals in the championship

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Not with Strachan as manager no.
 

M&B Stand

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  • Mar 17, 2018
  • #12
Remember the ‘goal’ away at West Ham he had disallowed for offside because the linesman didn’t see the defender back on the line. I still haven’t got over it.
 
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Mar 17, 2018
  • #13
M&B Stand said:
Remember the ‘goal’ away at West Ham he had disallowed for offside because the linesman didn’t see the defender back on the line. I still haven’t got over it.
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Monday night? Was it on sky or sky paper view?
 

M&B Stand

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  • Mar 17, 2018
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
Monday night? Was it on sky or sky paper view?
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Sky I think.
 
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AlansEyes

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  • Mar 17, 2018
  • #15
Deleted member 5849 said:
It wasn't just the goals. Strachan was completely incapable of adapting systems, and we spent the first half of the season whacking the ball long to Bellamy. At least Hartson could hold the ball up and bring others into play.
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I really can't stand Bellamy, but we started to see what he could do when Hartson came in. Loved big Cedric Roussel, but if only he'd buggered off to Wimbledon so we could have got Hartson in a few weeks sooner. Still, another example of our former Chairman upsetting one of our strikers by trying to force through a move against their will (just like with hawking Dion to Blackburn).
 
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Seamus1

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  • Mar 17, 2018
  • #16
Hartson said in an interview a number of years ago that Coventry City is the only club that he had ever asked to leave.

I think if we had kept Aloisi, and maybe to a lesser extent Zuniga, we would have done better
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Mar 17, 2018
  • #17
higgs said:
If John hartson had of stayed with us would we be back in the premier league now? He would have scored a lot of goals in the championship

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The salary issues killed the club, not just the Arena.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Mar 17, 2018
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Deleted member 5849 said:
More to the point if he'd joined us earlier the season we went down, we might have had a fighting chance of staying up.
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Yes. If only by a couple months. His goals/contribution would, I feel have made the difference.
What was the delay over? I can't recall.
Or was it the obvious?
 
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TewkesburySkyBlue

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  • Mar 18, 2018
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joemercersaces said:
We replaced Robbie Kean with Bellamy. A big reason why we went down as he was next to useless. Missed no end of one on ones. Couldn’t believe it when we offloaded him to Newcastle for about what we paid for him. His subsequent career showed we were just unlucky (that makes a change!). Replaced him with Hughes who Albion didn’t want to sell (Wolves hadn’t wanted to sell Kean but we were the bigger club then!). Had Hartson come a couple of months earlier we’d have stayed up.

Don’t get me started on Strachan. Anyone remember the game against Boro when Hedman could barely stand up and he wouldn’t take him off, probably out of pig-headedness as the whole crowd were crying out for it. On the bench? Chris Kirkland. God knows how he felt. An arrogant, snotty little twat.
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Being one for conspiracy theories I always reckoned the Referees Union conspired to send us down. Strachan was forever blaming the ref after every match. They just got their own back.
 

Amcoventry

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #20
SkyBlueRuffian said:
Not with Strachan as manager no.
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You back again! No comments on you tic toc tic toc thread lately?
 

robbiekeane

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #21
joemercersaces said:
Don’t get me started on Strachan. Anyone remember the game against Boro when Hedman could barely stand up and he wouldn’t take him off, probably out of pig-headedness as the whole crowd were crying out for it. On the bench? Chris Kirkland. God know
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I remember this! Anyone got a video?
 

robbiekeane

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #22
Strachan takes a blow where it hurts after hampered Hedman limps to the line
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #23
Seamus1 said:
Hartson said in an interview a number of years ago that Coventry City is the only club that he had ever asked to leave.

I think if we had kept Aloisi, and maybe to a lesser extent Zuniga, we would have done better
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I quite liked the look of Zuniga and thought he could’ve been alright.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #24
Terry_dactyl said:
I quite liked the look of Zuniga and thought he could’ve been alright.
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Wasn’t Scottish or good at golf so had no chance
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #25
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Wasn’t Scottish or good at golf so had no chance
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You know things are bad when clubs start having an influx of players from the Scottish league. We’re doomed!
A bit like when lawrie Sanchez started signing Northern Irish players for Fulham.
Not always been like that of course. The Liverpool side of the 80s seemed to be mostly made up of players from Scotland...and they weren’t too bad.
 
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skyblue025

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  • Mar 18, 2018
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See everyone slated Strachan but the year before we finished 11th and were known as the entertainers. Richardson wouldn't offer McAllister a new contract until it was too late despite McAllister saying he wanted to stay. He then sold Keane on the eve of the season and all creativity in the team went. We lost 20-30 goals from the team and struggled. Any manager who loses goals from the team struggles. I honestly believe Pressley would of taken us up if Clarke hadn't left and Wilson hadn't got injured. The first 1\2 of that season was unbelievable to start the season on -10 and be in the top10 by Christmas was fantastic. Just a shame it was played Sixfields and nobody watched it.
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #27
fernandopartridge said:
Most definitely, I reckon if he'd signed at Christmas we might have been ok
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the worse thing is Richardson bragged about what we had saved signing him later, 2 or 3 million I think. Yeah, that worked out well Bryan you smug twat,
 

SkyBlueRuffian

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #28
Amcoventry said:
You back again! No comments on you tic toc tic toc thread lately?
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Posting at 06:27, sad fucker!
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Mar 18, 2018
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Deleted member 5849 said:
More to the point if he'd joined us earlier the season we went down, we might have had a fighting chance of staying up.
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Absolutely, as soon as we bought Hartson, we had a potentially top 10 front 2. They clicked immediately Bellamy and Hartson. Perfect partnership but was too little too late. As someone. Else posted if we bought Hartson at Xmas it may have saved us.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Mar 18, 2018
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Londonccfcfan said:
Absolutely, as soon as we bought Hartson, we had a potentially top 10 front 2. They clicked immediately Bellamy and Hartson. Perfect partnership but was too little too late. As someone. Else posted if we bought Hartson at Xmas it may have saved us.
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ISTR there were concerns over whether he had recovered from an injury, the club dithered.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Mar 18, 2018
  • #31
TewkesburySkyBlue said:
Being one for conspiracy theories I always reckoned the Referees Union conspired to send us down. Strachan was forever blaming the ref after every match. They just got their own back.
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The referee’s union must be very vindictive if we’ve managed to get relegated to League 2!
 
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Amcoventry

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  • Mar 19, 2018
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SkyBlueRuffian said:
Posting at 06:27, sad fucker!
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Not in the Tic Toc Tic Toc thread you didn't, as mentioned.
Dickhead
 

duffer

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  • Mar 19, 2018
  • #33
Mucca Mad Boys said:
The referee’s union must be very vindictive if we’ve managed to get relegated to League 2!
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They are absolute bastards mate. They even use their Jedi mind powers to make your strikers miss open goals, the defence fall apart, and your midfield pass to the opposition.

They've been after us for years...
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 20, 2018
  • #34
skyblue025 said:
See everyone slated Strachan but the year before we finished 11th and were known as the entertainers. Richardson wouldn't offer McAllister a new contract until it was too late despite McAllister saying he wanted to stay. He then sold Keane on the eve of the season and all creativity in the team went. We lost 20-30 goals from the team and struggled. Any manager who loses goals from the team struggles. I honestly believe Pressley would of taken us up if Clarke hadn't left and Wilson hadn't got injured. The first 1\2 of that season was unbelievable to start the season on -10 and be in the top10 by Christmas was fantastic. Just a shame it was played Sixfields and nobody watched it.
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We finished 15th in the 'entertainers' season failing to win an away game and threw away a two goal lead at home to lower league Charlton
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 20, 2018
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duffer said:
They are absolute bastards mate. They even use their Jedi mind powers to make your strikers miss open goals, the defence fall apart, and your midfield pass to the opposition.

They've been after us for years...
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When we finally get relegated to the Conference, Joy will take the pitch and remove her mask to reveal it was (*quickly googles*) Paul Field, Chairman of the Referees Union all along!
 
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