John Fleck? (1 Viewer)

Littlewood CCFC · Dec 8, 2012

Where does everyone think Johns best position is? I keep hearing whispers in the crowd about him not being good enough for the bench let alone a starting position.

Personally i think he has a cracking left foot and would fit in behind Mcgoldrick. Cant really drop Moussa right now though hes in great form :thinking about:

CCFC_Charlie · Dec 8, 2012

He'd be best in Moussa's position but Moussa is in good form so it would be unfair to drop him. Expect him to come off the bench as he did today in the next few games though.

stupot07 · Dec 8, 2012

No, he'd be poor and predictable behind the striker. Sheffers should the types of runs that you have to make in that position, often running in behind the lone striker, fleck hasn't got the mobility to do that and like to drop in the hole all the time.

ohitsaidwalker king power · Dec 8, 2012

Was it my optimistic sky blue eyes ..or did John look a little less full around the waist today?

Sky Blue Pete · Dec 8, 2012

Sky blu eyes I am afraid but he did show good energy

ccfcway · Dec 9, 2012

will he come in for baker ?

Littlewood CCFC · Dec 9, 2012

ccfcway said:
will he come in for baker ?

I was thinking that would be intresting to see how he does cutting onto his left foot

rob9872 · Dec 9, 2012

Kevin Thornton mark deux

LJC_CCFC · Dec 9, 2012

Good player, needs games, nuff said...

shy_tall_knight · Dec 9, 2012

He looks like he has the potential to be a good player but IMO has done very little of late and does not seem athletic enough to become a top player.

Mucca Mad Boys · Dec 9, 2012

CCFC_Charlie said:
He'd be best in Moussa's position but Moussa is in good form so it would be unfair to drop him. Expect him to come off the bench as he did today in the next few games though.

Moussa was, the majority of the time, on LM, I don't think Fleck should play LM, but at AMC.

Mucca Mad Boys · Dec 9, 2012

People are forgetting he's our top assister in our team (in L1)

CarpyCov84 · Dec 9, 2012

Heard he likes a good blow out like Thornton too very disappointed by him tbh

stupot07 · Dec 9, 2012

SkyBlue_Taylor said:
People are forgetting he's our top assister in our team (in L1)

The majority of his assists are from set pieces....you can't play someone just because they take a good corner.

blueflint · Dec 9, 2012

beckham got played for his free kick

stupot07 · Dec 9, 2012

blueflint said:
beckham got played for his free kick

Beckham also provided a lot of assists from open play

deanocity3 · Dec 9, 2012

His uncle Robert Fleck (norwich etc) got replaced at Norwich by Mark Robins

Mucca Mad Boys · Dec 9, 2012

stupot07 said:
The majority of his assists are from set pieces....you can't play someone just because they take a good corner.

Having a good set piece taker (let's face it Baker + McSheff are wank at corners) is important, I say, next game, slot him in behind McG, see how he gets on.

stupot07 · Dec 9, 2012

SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Having a good set piece taker (let's face it Baker + McSheff are wank at corners) is important, I say, next game, slot him in behind McG, see how he gets on.

I wouldn't, Robins tried that early on i the first 2-3 games and it didn't work which is why he was shifted out wide left. He hasn't got the mobility to make those runs in behind DMc which are crucial when you're only playing 1 upfront, especially when that striker likes to drop deep. This is the same reason Barton can't play there either and why Robins swapped it round after 10 mins vs Morecombe......interestingly he also god shunted out wide left.

Mucca Mad Boys · Dec 9, 2012

stupot07 said:
I wouldn't, Robins tried that early on i the first 2-3 games and it didn't work which is why he was shifted out wide left. He hasn't got the mobility to make those runs in behind DMc which are crucial when you're only playing 1 upfront, especially when that striker likes to drop deep. This is the same reason Barton can't play there either and why Robins swapped it round after 10 mins vs Morecombe......interestingly he also god shunted out wide left.

The formation we've been using as a whole wasn't working and we moved to 4-4-2 (because Ball played really well when he came on v Bournemouth) and there's no AMC in a 4-4-2, that's why.

We've slowly moved from 4-4-2 to 4-4-1-1/4-2-3-1, thankfully.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Dec 9, 2012

Keep the same team at the moment, I think Fleck can be a good player but no reason to change the team

Having said that he will most likely come in for the suspended Baker vs Doncaster

Mucca Mad Boys · Dec 9, 2012

CCFC said:
Keep the same team at the moment, I think Fleck can be a good player but no reason to change the team

Having said that he will most likely come in for the suspended Baker vs Doncaster

Or Barton, either way I'll be happy.

I think Moussa should go RM, McSheff LM and Fleck or Barton (had a couple of good assists/passes in his cameos) behind ROD/Cody, jokes, McGOALdrick

If it 'ent broke, don't fix it!

stupot07 · Dec 9, 2012

SkyBlue_Taylor said:
The formation we've been using as a whole wasn't working and we moved to 4-4-2 (because Ball played really well when he came on v Bournemouth) and there's no AMC in a 4-4-2, that's why.

We've slowly moved from 4-4-2 to 4-4-1-1/4-2-3-1, thankfully.

My point still stands that behind a lone striker in a 4231 /4411 fleck and Barton do not have it in them to consistently make the runs in beyond the striker like sheff did yesterday, which is critical to that position especially as DMcG likes to drop deep.

Mucca Mad Boys · Dec 9, 2012

stupot07 said:
My point still stands that behind a lone striker in a 4231 /4411 fleck and Barton do not have it in them to consistently make the runs in beyond the striker like sheff did yesterday, which is critical to that position especially as DMcG likes to drop deep.

They haven't been given a string of games to be fair to them, Barton, has put in some great passes, and Fleck has been more influential than people give him credit for. I didn't even know he was our top assister in the league, and a fan of his (as you can tell).

Fleck and Barton have a LOT of potential, McSheff played well yesterday so, for the mean time, I'd keep him in.

Again 'if it 'entry broke, don't fix it!' Although we need to fix it for next game where Fleck or Barton could stake a claim to start regularly.

wingy · Dec 9, 2012

Could we move Cyrus forward into Bakers spot and bring Clark in ,leave the others where they've done so well ,less shuffling around from their familiar role?

Mucca Mad Boys · Dec 9, 2012

wingy said:
Could we move Cyrus forward into Bakers spot and bring Clark in ,leave the others where they've done so well ,less shuffling around from their familiar role?

If I was MR, I'd keep back 4 as it is, conceded barely any with this back 4, Clarke has been very disappointing this season.

Moussa RM, that could be an interesting partnership, McSheff on the Left, and Barton + Fleck at AMC, that'd be quite formidable IMO. (Baker in there is even more formidable)

psgm1 · Dec 9, 2012

Littlewood CCFC said:
Where does everyone think Johns best position is? I keep hearing whispers in the crowd about him not being good enough for the bench let alone a starting position.

Personally i think he has a cracking left foot and would fit in behind Mcgoldrick. Cant really drop Moussa right now though hes in great form :thinking about:

Any other club than Cov!

Mucca Mad Boys · Dec 9, 2012

psgm1 said:
Any other club than Cov!

Not you, is MR still relying on McG to win us games?

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