Robins has said there is an option but I've heard that was incorrect and the contract expires at the end of JuneMight be wrong but think there is a one year option on his contract and I’m sure he’s not on a massive wage so bearing in mind quality squad depth I wouldn’t be surprised he stays another season, his current injury I believe is minor and nothing to do with his ACLs. Needs some decent game time though.
No way he gets a new contract in my opinion and I also think he’ll struggle to get a club above league 2. Hope he does though - great attitude and resilienceRobins has said there is an option but I've heard that was incorrect and the contract expires at the end of June
Jones and Shipley must be on a lot more money than I thought given the number of people who think if we move them both on in the summer it frees up wages for 2 potential first team starters to come in.
Def not saying they should both be offered new contracts but I'm not sure moving one or both on is really going to free up a significant amount of money. All helps of course but looking at our bench in a lot of games we've been very short of options. Need to make sure if players are being moved out we have better players lined up to replace them.
Two minds on this.
One mind - simple - free up wages and good luck.
Other mind - he’s talented and 23. He will only be offered L2 money elsewhere I would suggest so offering him a low contract on a back-to-back loan deal might work.
EG. 1 year deal with 1 year option in our favour. (He might not get given a better option elsewhere due to his injury record.)
A L2 club to pay us his wages on loan.
If he aces the division we will have the ability to recall or command a fee.
If we simply release and he does a JCH and becomes a 1m player in a year (at 24) then we would kick ourselves.
Those my musings.
And if we worry about squad depth, then Jones gives some squad depth.Jones and Shipley must be on a lot more money than I thought given the number of people who think if we move them both on in the summer it frees up wages for 2 potential first team starters to come in.
Def not saying they should both be offered new contracts but I'm not sure moving one or both on is really going to free up a significant amount of money. All helps of course but looking at our bench in a lot of games we've been very short of options. Need to make sure if players are being moved out we have better players lined up to replace them.
YeahWhen was his initial injury? Winter 2017?
Jones and Shipley must be on a lot more money than I thought given the number of people who think if we move them both on in the summer it frees up wages for 2 potential first team starters to come in.
Def not saying they should both be offered new contracts but I'm not sure moving one or both on is really going to free up a significant amount of money. All helps of course but looking at our bench in a lot of games we've been very short of options. Need to make sure if players are being moved out we have better players lined up to replace them.
And if we worry about squad depth, then Jones gives some squad depth.
Who else is going to come in as third choice?
I'd love to know who people think we should be bringing in as third choice players, then?That doesn't really count as squad depth though does it?
But if that's a concern then surely we may as well just use an U23 as third choice? They're just as likely not to play and it's less of an overhead than retaining Jones.
That's a very different argument, though.Also, is that really what Jones wants for his career?
I'd love to know who people think we should be bringing in as third choice players, then?
I mean, they're breaking down the doors with the sales pitch that you can be second backup for Coventry City!
That's a very different argument, though.
My thoughts were to cover him on L2 wages and loan him out. If he excels then recall at Xmas if we can create a deal to do so.That doesn't really count as squad depth though does it? If anything all it really is, is another body to throw in as a last resort.
But if that's a concern then surely we may as well just use an U23 as third choice? They're just as likely not to play and it's less of an overhead than retaining Jones.
Also, is that really what Jones wants for his career? Another year of not playing unless there's an injury crisis?
Can’t be anything other than a mutual love in release in the summer to make it as easy as possible for him to get another professional contract elsewhereMy thoughts were to cover him on L2 wages and loan him out. If he excels then recall at Xmas if we can create a deal to do so.
I've always rated him. I think he could be champ level and I don't think City would've ploughed so much into his rehab if he wasn't in their future plans.
Can’t see us offering him a new deal
Indeed, and I don't think he'd necessarily sign one if he wasn't going to play. He's barely played for 5 years now.
And people keep saying how weak the squad is when we've got filler in it. Signing Rochdale filler is not going to have them change their mind on that.They'd predominantly play and develop in the U23 squad and likely train with the first team squad. It's not really any different than Tavares' current role.
And people keep saying how weak the squad is when we've got filler in it. Signing Rochdale filler is not going to have them change their mind on that.
Well I'm totally lost by your argument tbh. Crrect me if I'm wrong, but you appear to be saying we can get better for cheaper than Jones as a third choice player.How many Championship clubs have 3 players in every position?
You're regurgitating rubbish.
Well I'm totally lost by your argument tbh. Crrect me if I'm wrong, but you appear to be saying we can get better for cheaper than Jones as a third choice player.
He's got another decade in the game if he keeps fit, so he's not exactly past it, his injury past means he won't cost the earth, and the alternatve is reserves from the likes of Rochdale or current youth system. Now, personally I'd like to see the youngsters given a chance now and again but... you appeared to take issue with me when I said that that wouldn't satisfy some people who say our squad is too weak.
I'm really not sure what you're arguing with me tbh! It appears to be utter gibberish!
What on earth are you rambling about?!? Throwing toys out the pram is suggesting we wouldn't get a better or cheaper third choice?!?You're the one that's lost? I'm not the one that seems to be throwing their toys out the pram over the fact we haven't got a third choice CAM?
Fair enough if you want to keep Jones but I just don't see how it benefits club or player.
What on earth are you rambling about?!? Throwing toys out the pram is suggesting we wouldn't get a better or cheaper third choice?!?
Again, focussed?!?I just can't understand why you're so focused on us needing a third choice.
Equally, and I'll say again, why would Jones want to be third choice next season when he's approaching 24 and desperately needs to get his career back on track?
Again, focussed?!?
I'll repeat, for your second point, that's a totally different argument to the rest of it.
You appear to be determined to argue with me there when I'm agreeing with you! That's not particularly Astute.
FFS!We don't agree at all as I don't think there's any sense whatsoever in keeping Jones for another year and you seem to think otherwise.
Im telling you that's a different argument to the rest of it, and I agree with you there, and you want to argue that we don't agree! I'm not even getting into the rest of it, as unlike methuselah I don't have all eternity.why would Jones want to be third choice next season when he's approaching 24 and desperately needs to get his career back on track?
I just can't understand why you're so focused on us needing a third choice.
Equally, and I'll say again, why would Jones want to be third choice next season when he's approaching 24 and desperately needs to get his career back on track?
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