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Jimmy Saville Doc on Netflix (6 Viewers)

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  • Start date Apr 6, 2022
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Apr 6, 2022
  • #36
Ccfcisparks said:
On the second episode now. Seems to be clips never shown before. As someone who grew up after his time, i struggle to understand how people who grew up with him did not find him creepy as fuck and a dodgy bastard even back then.
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Everyone I knew thought he was weird. Never liked him at all . On the other hand I thought Stuart Hall and Rolf Harris were really talented and I was shocked and saddened when it came out about them. But Savile was always strange.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Apr 6, 2022
  • #37
Just finished it. A really tough watch.

What strangely got me the most is the recordings from when the story broke of people outraged that his name was being dragged through the mud. Some people are desperate to ignore victims.

The rest was obviously horrible but it's all stuff we've all heard before.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2022
  • #38
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Everyone I knew thought he was weird. Never liked him at all . On the other hand I thought Stuart Hall and Rolf Harris were really talented and I was shocked and saddened when it came out about them. But Savile was always strange.
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I always like Stuart Hall. Everyone did. He seemed a really lovable guy. Rolf Harris too.

Savile on the other hand, was always such an oddball and eccentric. He was so weird, but people would only see all the good he was doing and never questioned anything else.

Meanwhile, those in the industry seemed to have a very good idea what he was really like.
We the people, never got to hear about any of this.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2022
  • #39
Otis said:
I always like Stuart Hall. Everyone did. He seemed a really lovable guy. Rolf Harris too.

Savile on the other hand, was always such an oddball and eccentric. He was so weird, but people would only see all the good he was doing and never questioned anything else.

Meanwhile, those in the industry seemed to have a very good idea what he was really like.
We the people, never got to hear about any of this.
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Stuart Hall. One of the greatest commentators there was. More's the pity.
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2022
  • #40
Were there rumours in the same way about Rolf Harris over the years? He was one like Bill Cosby where as far as I was aware they were universally loved and then what the fuck
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 7, 2022
  • #41
ajsccfc said:
Were there rumours in the same way about Rolf Harris over the years? He was one like Bill Cosby where as far as I was aware they were universally loved and then what the fuck
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Wonder what the Queen's done with her portrait.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Apr 7, 2022
  • #42
Getting near the end of ep1. These interviews with Selina Scott are soooo awkward.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 7, 2022
  • #43
Liquid Gold said:
Just finished it. A really tough watch.

What strangely got me the most is the recordings from when the story broke of people outraged that his name was being dragged through the mud. Some people are desperate to ignore victims.

The rest was obviously horrible but it's all stuff we've all heard before.
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It’s being balanced and basing responses on the evidence and facts rather than prejudice or authority bias. I was talking to my lad about the horror of what happened in the hospitals and how we train him and other teenagers to challenge authority appropriately when at school you can’t and if you do you are branded a troublemaker
 

oakey

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  • Apr 7, 2022
  • #44

A disturbing take on the Savile case.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 7, 2022
  • #45
oakey said:

A disturbing take on the Savile case.
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With no evidence
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2022
  • #46
Just watched the first episode. Chilling.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2022
  • #47
Grendel said:
With no evidence
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This was the trouble initially though wasn't it, that there were loads of rumours, but no-one could prove it, because no-one was actually coming forwards.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2022
  • #48
Started watching it but haven't finished yet.
I know this wasn't the aim of the program but I couldn't help thinking when watching it that the British public really are, by and large, fucking idiots.
Grendel said:
With no evidence
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Poulton's barking mad.
But there have been two dossiers of evidence, one put together by an MP, which were unfortunately 'lost'.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 8, 2022
  • #49
Some of the shit he was saying.

"When nobody is looking I help the girls out too"
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #50
Just watching this. Id never seen the Andrew Neil interview before…uncomfortable. Fair play though, he knew the score. The amount of suggestive comments Saville makes about his own behaviour is unbelievable

Although he looks like a total wrong un especially with hindsight, you can see how he manipulated everyone around him. The brazenness only added to it
 
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Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #51
Wasn't DLT (Dave Lee Travis) accused of something or other many years ago? I seem to remember this was hushed up.
 
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Otis

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #52
Houchens Head said:
Wasn't DLT (Dave Lee Travis) accused of something or other many years ago? I seem to remember this was hushed up.
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Yup.
 
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RedSalmon

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  • Apr 13, 2022
  • #53
Houchens Head said:
Wasn't DLT (Dave Lee Travis) accused of something or other many years ago? I seem to remember this was hushed up.
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Don't think it was hushed up, am pretty sure he ended up in cpourt.
 
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Covkid1968#

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  • Apr 14, 2022
  • #54
Otis said:
Yup.
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The Hairy cornflake….!!! Nooooo must have missed that.
 

Adge

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  • Apr 15, 2022
  • #55
Think somebody on the documentary labels Saville as a “cross between Jesus and Father Christmas who made peoples dreams come true” Unfortunately we were all hoodwinked by him for years when writing in for him to “Fix it for us”.
My son and daughter asked how the hell did we not see what he was all about as it was obvious when watching the documentary. It may seem obvious but we are talking about events over a 40-50 year period or possibly longer.
When that timescale is compacted into two hours on Netflix I guess it’s easier to dissect.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Apr 15, 2022
  • #56
Deleted member 5849 said:
Wonder what the Queen's done with her portrait.
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Hung it next to one of her favourite son Andrew I should imagine
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2022
  • #57
At school we used to call him Jim,ll flick shit.
 

clint van damme

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  • Apr 15, 2022
  • #58
Terry Gibson's perm said:
At school we used to call him Jim,ll flick shit.
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Did you go to Bantz comprehensive?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 16, 2022
  • #59
Liquid Gold said:
What strangely got me the most is the recordings from when the story broke of people outraged that his name was being dragged through the mud. Some people are desperate to ignore victims.
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This was the reality of the situation, especially before it was official.

Despite a lot of evidence being available online, like images of him visiting that children’s home, for a lot of people even speaking out against him was inexcusable.
 
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Otis

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  • Apr 16, 2022
  • #60
Yup. There was a lot of "how dare you" about.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 16, 2022
  • #61
Watched the first 15 mins. He reminds me of Boris so much. And in the same way Boris and Jimmy can do anything and those that love that scruffy individual maverick will allow them to do whatever they want without consequence.
I’m not suggesting Jimmy was as bad as Boris of course!!

Maybe I’ve written that the wrong way round
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 16, 2022
  • #62
Sky Blue Pete said:
Watched the first 15 mins. He reminds me of Boris so much. And in the same way Boris and Jimmy can do anything and those that love that scruffy individual maverick will allow them to do whatever they want without consequence.
I’m not suggesting Jimmy was as bad as Boris of course!!

Maybe I’ve written that the wrong way round
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thats pretty bizarre I’d really delete that if I were you
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 16, 2022
  • #63
Sick Boy said:
This was the reality of the situation, especially before it was official.

Despite a lot of evidence being available online, like images of him visiting that children’s home, for a lot of people even speaking out against him was inexcusable.
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its not really. The CPS did have an opportunity to take action in the internet age and still decided not to.

It’s really only as he looked odd. Rolf Harris and Stuart Hall were pretty grim and no one especially with Harris would have had a clue
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 16, 2022
  • #64
Grendel said:
thats pretty bizarre I’d really delete that if I were you
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Wow some of the stuff you’ve put and you think I should delete it. It’s a joke. People will take it in the spirit it’s meant. A joke with a little bit of truth. Chill out
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 16, 2022
  • #65
Grendel said:
its not really. The CPS did have an opportunity to take action in the internet age and still decided not to.

It’s really only as he looked odd. Rolf Harris and Stuart Hall were pretty grim and no one especially with Harris would have had a clue
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Not really, it was more the dodgy picture of him at the children’s home linked to sex abuse.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 16, 2022
  • #66
Sick Boy said:
Not really, it was more the dodgy picture of him at the children’s home linked to sex abuse.
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The Cps said there was insufficient evidence.

The head of the CPS at the time said the buck always stopped with him if anyone below him got things wrong

Not sure who that was tbh
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 16, 2022
  • #67
Sky Blue Pete said:
Wow some of the stuff you’ve put and you think I should delete it. It’s a joke. People will take it in the spirit it’s meant. A joke with a little bit of truth. Chill out
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Also why do you think Boris gets away with multiple affairs, lies and incompetence?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 16, 2022
  • #68
Grendel said:
The Cps said there was insufficient evidence.

The head of the CPS at the time said the buck always stopped with him if anyone below him got things wrong

Not sure who that was tbh
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Oh god.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2022
  • #69
Sky Blue Pete said:
Also why do you think Boris gets away with multiple affairs, lies and incompetence?
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incompetence is a subjective view abd frankly Tony Blair was a serial liar who even won an election when immersed in the Kelly MWD scandal which was far worse than a cake and candle affair
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 16, 2022
  • #70
Grendel said:
incompetence is a subjective view abd frankly Tony Blair was a serial liar who even won an election when immersed in the Kelly MWD scandal which was far worse than a cake and candle affair
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Yeah, like all Boris has done is have a cake and candle.
 
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