Managing and owning a football club is like a jigsaw puzzle. Well it isn't but it's the best link I can do
People squeal about lack of "investment" - I e throwing money at a problem - as the biggest fault if sisu
No that's not the case. It's the hopeless mismanagement down the years. There has been plenty of money invested - just wasted.
In the Times on Sunday there was an article lamenting the demise of Leyton Orient. A proud club that's had league status longer than us but now is staring at the abyss big time.
It was a fascinating article. Orient under the ownership of Barry Hearn and with our mate as manager had a football budget of £27,000 a week. They came within a whisker of promotion.
A new owner came in and ploughed millions into the club. Wages for one player signed was £9,000 a week. Darius Henderson was paid a fortune to ply his trade
£10 million wasted in two years. Managers came and went, the money went and within two years the club is gone. A sad tale but a great article.
Sisu have mismanaged the club in the same way but that's the key. Mismanagement. It's not just "investment" - it's structure, strategy and thought that's required. Throwing money around isn't always a solution but a sticking plaster over first degree burns.
Orient have imploded. The article mentioned us and the other problem clubs but highlighted their decline as falling of the end of the world in comparison.
We hear today if a rather ridiculous rumour of new ownership. It's needed but what's needed is owners with a new direction, strategy and long term planning not just "investment"
Ask Leyton Orient.
Managing and owning a football club is like a jigsaw puzzle. Well it isn't but it's the best link I can do
People squeal about lack of "investment" - I e throwing money at a problem - as the biggest fault if sisu
No that's not the case. It's the hopeless mismanagement down the years. There has been plenty of money invested - just wasted.
In the Times on Sunday there was an article lamenting the demise of Leyton Orient. A proud club that's had league status longer than us but now is staring at the abyss big time.
It was a fascinating article. Orient under the ownership of Barry Hearn and with our mate as manager had a football budget of £27,000 a week. They came within a whisker of promotion.
A new owner came in and ploughed millions into the club. Wages for one player signed was £9,000 a week. Darius Henderson was paid a fortune to ply his trade
£10 million wasted in two years. Managers came and went, the money went and within two years the club is gone. A sad tale but a great article.
Sisu have mismanaged the club in the same way but that's the key. Mismanagement. It's not just "investment" - it's structure, strategy and thought that's required. Throwing money around isn't always a solution but a sticking plaster over first degree burns.
Orient have imploded. The article mentioned us and the other problem clubs but highlighted their decline as falling of the end of the world in comparison.
We hear today if a rather ridiculous rumour of new ownership. It's needed but what's needed is owners with a new direction, strategy and long term planning not just "investment"
Ask Leyton Orient.
Managing and owning a football club is like a jigsaw puzzle. Well it isn't but it's the best link I can do
People squeal about lack of "investment" - I e throwing money at a problem - as the biggest fault if sisu
No that's not the case. It's the hopeless mismanagement down the years. There has been plenty of money invested - just wasted.
In the Times on Sunday there was an article lamenting the demise of Leyton Orient. A proud club that's had league status longer than us but now is staring at the abyss big time.
It was a fascinating article. Orient under the ownership of Barry Hearn and with our mate as manager had a football budget of £27,000 a week. They came within a whisker of promotion.
A new owner came in and ploughed millions into the club. Wages for one player signed was £9,000 a week. Darius Henderson was paid a fortune to ply his trade
£10 million wasted in two years. Managers came and went, the money went and within two years the club is gone. A sad tale but a great article.
Sisu have mismanaged the club in the same way but that's the key. Mismanagement. It's not just "investment" - it's structure, strategy and thought that's required. Throwing money around isn't always a solution but a sticking plaster over first degree burns.
Orient have imploded. The article mentioned us and the other problem clubs but highlighted their decline as falling of the end of the world in comparison.
We hear today if a rather ridiculous rumour of new ownership. It's needed but what's needed is owners with a new direction, strategy and long term planning not just "investment"
Ask Leyton Orient.
Grendel mate.
With all due respect (which isn't a lot, but still), according to you no football club anywhere, ever will be successful.
You appear to think that CCFC is in some way unfixably broken and no owner has any chance of anything but eternal decline.
Leaving aside the obvious cry for help and the much needed advice that you see someone before your depression impacts on your daily life, what are you actually saying?
Either we're fucked, and no one could ever do better than Sisu have done (which appears to be your argument) so why not support us going pop and starting again lower down the leagues where we may be able to build? Or, your'e talking bollocks and in fact someone out there could do a better job of running CCFC than has happened in the last 9 years.
Which is it?
Managing and owning a football club is like a jigsaw puzzle. Well it isn't but it's the best link I can do
People squeal about lack of "investment" - I e throwing money at a problem - as the biggest fault if sisu
No that's not the case. It's the hopeless mismanagement down the years. There has been plenty of money invested - just wasted.
In the Times on Sunday there was an article lamenting the demise of Leyton Orient. A proud club that's had league status longer than us but now is staring at the abyss big time.
It was a fascinating article. Orient under the ownership of Barry Hearn and with our mate as manager had a football budget of £27,000 a week. They came within a whisker of promotion.
A new owner came in and ploughed millions into the club. Wages for one player signed was £9,000 a week. Darius Henderson was paid a fortune to ply his trade
£10 million wasted in two years. Managers came and went, the money went and within two years the club is gone. A sad tale but a great article.
Sisu have mismanaged the club in the same way but that's the key. Mismanagement. It's not just "investment" - it's structure, strategy and thought that's required. Throwing money around isn't always a solution but a sticking plaster over first degree burns.
Orient have imploded. The article mentioned us and the other problem clubs but highlighted their decline as falling of the end of the world in comparison.
We hear today if a rather ridiculous rumour of new ownership. It's needed but what's needed is owners with a new direction, strategy and long term planning not just "investment"
Ask Leyton Orient.
that's not how I read the post, my opinion is the jist of it is that sisu haven't fucked up through lack of investment, they've fucked up because they haven't got a clue what they are doing. I'd tend to agree, with this season been the pinnacle of there disastrous tenure at the club, though they've probably got something up their sleeve to trump it.
Self sustainable with a vision, a plan, would be a start, SISU or no...Most on here i think would understand the aim to be self sustainable, and would be more accepting of it, if SISU were not behind it all.
Managing and owning a football club is like a jigsaw puzzle. Well it isn't but it's the best link I can do
People squeal about lack of "investment" - I e throwing money at a problem - as the biggest fault if sisu
No that's not the case. It's the hopeless mismanagement down the years. There has been plenty of money invested - just wasted.
In the Times on Sunday there was an article lamenting the demise of Leyton Orient. A proud club that's had league status longer than us but now is staring at the abyss big time.
It was a fascinating article. Orient under the ownership of Barry Hearn and with our mate as manager had a football budget of £27,000 a week. They came within a whisker of promotion.
A new owner came in and ploughed millions into the club. Wages for one player signed was £9,000 a week. Darius Henderson was paid a fortune to ply his trade
£10 million wasted in two years. Managers came and went, the money went and within two years the club is gone. A sad tale but a great article.
Sisu have mismanaged the club in the same way but that's the key. Mismanagement. It's not just "investment" - it's structure, strategy and thought that's required. Throwing money around isn't always a solution but a sticking plaster over first degree burns.
Orient have imploded. The article mentioned us and the other problem clubs but highlighted their decline as falling of the end of the world in comparison.
We hear today if a rather ridiculous rumour of new ownership. It's needed but what's needed is owners with a new direction, strategy and long term planning not just "investment"
Ask Leyton Orient.
You keep banging on about budgets and investments....but that isn't necessarily why people dislike SISU. You have totally misinterpreted what a lot of people have been saying.
It's interesting last year you were lambasting a manager claiming he had a top 5 budget. Then you decided budgets were irrelevant. Then last week you start a thread scaremongering how the budget is going to be slashed and the squad will need to be started from scratch. As always your logic is all over the place.
No different from when you backed SISU would win in court, then when they lost tried to argue they deliberately lost?
However at the end of your post you have finally grasped the nettle of what people have been arguing.
Actually Barry Hearn still owns the ground personally. He gave the club a 20 year lease when he sold to the crazed Italian.Even if Orient go down I still think that they are in a better position than us as, as far as I know, they still have their own ground, academy and training centre. I honestly think that we are in a more perilous state than any other club, including Blackpool. Once Sisu have gone, the base we are starting at will be very low.
They're cuntsAnd there cunts
Self sustainable with a vision, a plan, would be a start, SISU or no...
Were a pretty good local band for those that remember ...Jigsaw
Managing and owning a football club is like a jigsaw puzzle. Well it isn't but it's the best link I can do
People squeal about lack of "investment" - I e throwing money at a problem - as the biggest fault if sisu
No that's not the case. It's the hopeless mismanagement down the years. There has been plenty of money invested - just wasted.
In the Times on Sunday there was an article lamenting the demise of Leyton Orient. A proud club that's had league status longer than us but now is staring at the abyss big time.
It was a fascinating article. Orient under the ownership of Barry Hearn and with our mate as manager had a football budget of £27,000 a week. They came within a whisker of promotion.
A new owner came in and ploughed millions into the club. Wages for one player signed was £9,000 a week. Darius Henderson was paid a fortune to ply his trade
£10 million wasted in two years. Managers came and went, the money went and within two years the club is gone. A sad tale but a great article.
Sisu have mismanaged the club in the same way but that's the key. Mismanagement. It's not just "investment" - it's structure, strategy and thought that's required. Throwing money around isn't always a solution but a sticking plaster over first degree burns.
Orient have imploded. The article mentioned us and the other problem clubs but highlighted their decline as falling of the end of the world in comparison.
We hear today if a rather ridiculous rumour of new ownership. It's needed but what's needed is owners with a new direction, strategy and long term planning not just "investment"
Ask Leyton Orient.
that's not how I read the post, my opinion is the jist of it is that sisu haven't fucked up through lack of investment, they've fucked up because they haven't got a clue what they are doing. I'd tend to agree, with this season been the pinnacle of there disastrous tenure at the club, though they've probably got something up their sleeve to trump it.
All true and unfortunately the mismanagement continues and arguably gets worse by the day.
Alienating fans, repeated promises that fail to materialise. Falling out with all of our partners. Pointless legal action.
No coherent plan for the fans to get behind.
False promises of new stadiums, academies and training grounds.
New scouting network set up that it turns out each year is never there. Constant high turn over of directors, managers and players.
People can handle austerity if there is a clear plan. A drive to raise revenue not just cuts and finally a belief that those decisions are made solely in the best interests of the club.
But you've always advocated taking a punt to get promotion haven't you?
Why don't you just ask Coventry City. We had Richardson do the same to us. Except he did it on a bigger scale. If he only wasted 10m in 2 years we wouldn't be in the mess we are now. We were losing over 10m each year. He even sold our ground to keep us going. And everyone who has come in since has been firefighting to try and turn things around.Managing and owning a football club is like a jigsaw puzzle. Well it isn't but it's the best link I can do
People squeal about lack of "investment" - I e throwing money at a problem - as the biggest fault if sisu
No that's not the case. It's the hopeless mismanagement down the years. There has been plenty of money invested - just wasted.
In the Times on Sunday there was an article lamenting the demise of Leyton Orient. A proud club that's had league status longer than us but now is staring at the abyss big time.
It was a fascinating article. Orient under the ownership of Barry Hearn and with our mate as manager had a football budget of £27,000 a week. They came within a whisker of promotion.
A new owner came in and ploughed millions into the club. Wages for one player signed was £9,000 a week. Darius Henderson was paid a fortune to ply his trade
£10 million wasted in two years. Managers came and went, the money went and within two years the club is gone. A sad tale but a great article.
Sisu have mismanaged the club in the same way but that's the key. Mismanagement. It's not just "investment" - it's structure, strategy and thought that's required. Throwing money around isn't always a solution but a sticking plaster over first degree burns.
Orient have imploded. The article mentioned us and the other problem clubs but highlighted their decline as falling of the end of the world in comparison.
We hear today if a rather ridiculous rumour of new ownership. It's needed but what's needed is owners with a new direction, strategy and long term planning not just "investment"
Ask Leyton Orient.
that's not how I read the post, my opinion is the jist of it is that sisu haven't fucked up through lack of investment, they've fucked up because they haven't got a clue what they are doing...
Self sustainable with a vision, a plan, would be a start, SISU or no...
They would, although (and we're splitting hairs, while basically saying the same thing) if they did come up with a feasible plan it'd help no end.It would be a start, but with SISU, as seen already, it's just a downward spiral with zero trust in them. It needs the fans support and I think SISU are way beyond that whatever vision or plan they came up with. Someone new would stand a far better chance.
Sisu's tenure can be split into two halves of about 5 years each. First half, straightforward incompetence both on and on the pitch, marked notably by their failure to acquire a 50% share of the Ricoh at a reasonable price. Second half, incompetence onManaging and owning a football club is like a jigsaw puzzle. Well it isn't but it's the best link I can do
People squeal about lack of "investment" - I e throwing money at a problem - as the biggest fault if sisu
No that's not the case. It's the hopeless mismanagement down the years. There has been plenty of money invested - just wasted.
In the Times on Sunday there was an article lamenting the demise of Leyton Orient. A proud club that's had league status longer than us but now is staring at the abyss big time.
It was a fascinating article. Orient under the ownership of Barry Hearn and with our mate as manager had a football budget of £27,000 a week. They came within a whisker of promotion.
A new owner came in and ploughed millions into the club. Wages for one player signed was £9,000 a week. Darius Henderson was paid a fortune to ply his trade
£10 million wasted in two years. Managers came and went, the money went and within two years the club is gone. A sad tale but a great article.
Sisu have mismanaged the club in the same way but that's the key. Mismanagement. It's not just "investment" - it's structure, strategy and thought that's required. Throwing money around isn't always a solution but a sticking plaster over first degree burns.
Orient have imploded. The article mentioned us and the other problem clubs but highlighted their decline as falling of the end of the world in comparison.
We hear today if a rather ridiculous rumour of new ownership. It's needed but what's needed is owners with a new direction, strategy and long term planning not just "investment"
Ask Leyton Orient.
Sisu's tenure started with mere incompetence and then moved onto greed, spite, stubborness, stupidity and incompetence. Tbh we're in too perilous a position to contemplate NOPM anymore. Another relegation after this and will be catastrophic. We have to take Fisher at his word (difficult I know) and assume he means it when he says the club will have to be financed by the gates. The fans will have to support the club out of this mess.Managing and owning a football club is like a jigsaw puzzle. Well it isn't but it's the best link I can do
People squeal about lack of "investment" - I e throwing money at a problem - as the biggest fault if sisu
No that's not the case. It's the hopeless mismanagement down the years. There has been plenty of money invested - just wasted.
In the Times on Sunday there was an article lamenting the demise of Leyton Orient. A proud club that's had league status longer than us but now is staring at the abyss big time.
It was a fascinating article. Orient under the ownership of Barry Hearn and with our mate as manager had a football budget of £27,000 a week. They came within a whisker of promotion.
A new owner came in and ploughed millions into the club. Wages for one player signed was £9,000 a week. Darius Henderson was paid a fortune to ply his trade
£10 million wasted in two years. Managers came and went, the money went and within two years the club is gone. A sad tale but a great article.
Sisu have mismanaged the club in the same way but that's the key. Mismanagement. It's not just "investment" - it's structure, strategy and thought that's required. Throwing money around isn't always a solution but a sticking plaster over first degree burns.
Orient have imploded. The article mentioned us and the other problem clubs but highlighted their decline as falling of the end of the world in comparison.
We hear today if a rather ridiculous rumour of new ownership. It's needed but what's needed is owners with a new direction, strategy and long term planning not just "investment"
Ask Leyton Orient.
A Sisu Jigsaw?If it's Grendulls jigsaw it's bound to be a double sided one so he can keep turning it over to suit.
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