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SHUNT31

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,291
Sky Blue Pete said:
King needs a bollocking
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Just King? Robins and Austin more to blame.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,292
Ccfcisparks said:
No the idea is that we’ve let Andrews go, so rather than getting a CB in we get in a Sheaf replacement
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Surely though Andrew going makes no impact on wages for a championship CM no? Unless he’s on a lot more than I would guess?
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,293
Fully expecting a couple of loans on deadline day and that’ll be that.
 

Bertola

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,294
Saddlebrains said:
Apparently CB has been out on the back burner with Sheafs injury

All eyes on a new CM

Then the centre half

It is 1 in 1 out. Moneys gone
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I've feared this was the case with all the noise about outgoings.

People are saying its the player agents, but I've got the feeling that its the club pushing it trying to drum up interest.

Pretty concerning that we're out of funds, a disappointing season, leading to lower season ticket sales next year etc could start another downward cycle
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,295
SHUNT31 said:
Just King? Robins and Austin more to blame.
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No it is King. He’s tighter than a nuns chuff and unwilling to put his own money in, just money that he’s earnt through player sales.

He could quite easily put £5m in, in advance of player sales in the summer
 
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skybluecam

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,296
Saddlebrains said:
Apparently CB has been out on the back burner with Sheafs injury

All eyes on a new CM

Then the centre half

It is 1 in 1 out. Moneys gone
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SHUNT31

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,297
Ccfcisparks said:
No it is King. He’s tighter than a nuns chuff and unwilling to put his own money in, just money that he’s earnt through player sales.

He could quite easily put £5m in, in advance of player sales in the summer
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Accounts to 31 May 2023 show that he put £6m so you are wrong, I’m afraid.
 
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edgy

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,298
Saddlebrains said:
Apparently CB has been out on the back burner with Sheafs injury

All eyes on a new CM

Then the centre half

It is 1 in 1 out. Moneys gone
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skybluecam

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,299
Ccfcisparks said:
No it is King. He’s tighter than a nuns chuff and unwilling to put his own money in, just money that he’s earnt through player sales.

He could quite easily put £5m in, in advance of player sales in the summer
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Is he not covering our losses to the tune of ~£5m a year?

I don't get this argument of him not putting his own money in. He is, surely, unless my understanding is wrong.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,300
skybluecam said:
Is he not covering our losses to the tune of ~£5m a year?

I don't get this argument of him not putting his own money in. He is, surely, unless my understanding is wrong.
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And you don’t think player sales are covering those losses?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,301
SHUNT31 said:
Accounts to 31 May 2023 show that he put £6m so you are wrong, I’m afraid.
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Wow a whole £6m.

we’re a championship club, it’s pathetic his contribution
 
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JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,302
Skybluedownunder said:
Seeming as we need cover for RW I wouldn’t be against signing Ryan Kent till the end of the season.

Blackburn are looking at him as well as Rangers again


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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,303
Ccfcisparks said:
Wow a whole £6m.

we’re a championship club, it’s pathetic his contribution
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This only includes January 2023 to July 2023 if I’m not wrong. We don’t know what he put in last season as we haven’t yet got the accounts
 

JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,304
Skybluedownunder said:
Seeming as we need cover for RW I wouldn’t be against signing Ryan Kent till the end of the season.

Blackburn are looking at him as well as Rangers again


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Good grief no!
When was the last time he actually played a football match?
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,305
Sky Blue Goblin said:
This only includes January 2023 to July 2023 if I’m not wrong. We don’t know what he put in last season as we haven’t yet got the accounts
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So you think he’s been putting in £6m half yearly for the last 2.5 years?
 

skybluecam

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,306
Ccfcisparks said:
And you don’t think player sales are covering those losses?
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Well, we don't have the accounts. So you have no clue.

The latest accounts showed we made a loss of around £5m to May '23 which includes player trading. So Doug must have funded that.
 
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Andy123456

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,307
Saddlebrains said:
Apparently CB has been out on the back burner with Sheafs injury

All eyes on a new CM

Then the centre half

It is 1 in 1 out. Moneys gone
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Do you do Dougs banking?
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,308
Ccfcisparks said:
So you think he’s been putting in £6m half yearly for the last 2.5 years?
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I don’t know, I’m just telling you we had a directors loan of 6 million from when he’s owned us from the playoff year.

As the sisu debts were cleared before the account was created, we know that this has come from Doug.

He’s definitely put in money whether he has for transfers is another matter
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,309
Wasn’t @Jimmy87 saying we were trying to get some investors on board. Maybe this is why?
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,310
skybluecam said:
Well, we don't have the accounts. So you have no clue.

The latest accounts showed we made a loss of around £5m to May '23 which includes player trading. So Doug must have funded that
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How many players did we sign between January and May 23 out of curiosity
 

skybluecam

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,311
Ccfcisparks said:
How many players did we sign between January and May 23 out of curiosity
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Basically no one for a fee, wasn't it? Mainly loans.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,312
Ccfcisparks said:
How many players did we sign between January and May 23 out of curiosity
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Three I believe, Luke McNally, JWE, Sean Maguire. Maybe Dasilva but think this was June? Could also of covered payments on instalments if we had any?
 
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procdoc

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,313
King is a wank owner. Spunked all of the Vik and Gus money on a shower of shit spineless cunts who want out now the going is a little bit tough. Woke up this morning feeling fine…
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,314
skybluecam said:
Basically no one for a fee, wasn't it? Mainly loans.
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We signed Wilson Esbrand, Norton Cuffy and Sean Maguire

edit and McNally
 

skybluecam

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,315
Ccfcisparks said:
We signed Wilson Esbrand, Norton Cuffy and Sean Maguire
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Yeah? What's your point here.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,316
skybluecam said:
Yeah? What's your point here.
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So you’re saying he covered player trading in that period.

We signed 3 cheap loans and a free player. Hardly significant cash
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,317
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Wasn’t @Jimmy87 saying we were trying to get some investors on board. Maybe this is why?
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To be fair I think that's an ongoing objective for a lot of clubs.
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,318
Ccfcisparks said:
So you’re saying he covered player trading in that period.

We signed 3 cheap loans and a free player. Hardly significant cash
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No mate, he covered the losses.

The club lost £5m that FY, and that includes making a £2.4m profit from Hyam so it's more like £7m

Basically you don't understand that the club just loses money every single year and Doug has to cover that before he can even think about adding extra finance in for buying players.

edit: operating loss for 22/23 was £7.8m. 21/22 £5.6m. That doesn't include player trading. When people complain about Doug "not putting his own money in" he is covering those losses?
 
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LJC_CCFC

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,319
Entire recruitment setup should've followed Robins out the door at the same time. Have to hope King realises this as the season ends in lower midtable mediocrity but I wouldn't hold my breath. Pointless spending more money if you can't recognise talent or value.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,320
We should of built a stadium at the butts park with the 45 million, least one club could have premiership matches
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,321
skybluecam said:
So he was an average finisher. i.e. not clinical. Not sure why this is difficult to understand.

This was all in response to someone comparing him to BTA last season. Neither of them were any better than average at actually finishing chances, which is my entire point.
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Technically no, he was a bad finisher then a good finisher which averages out to an average finisher.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,322
TomRad85 said:
1 in 1 out sounds rather simplistic, 1 leaving for multiple millions is obviously different to someone leaving on loan or for peanuts. That said i'm not surprised on the spending, we've spent a lot tbf. We will likely need to generate from another sale. Assuming MvE is the most likely.
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it's bollocks as well

i'm putting him on block as he's now posting utter bollocks daily for attention
 

Jamesimus

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,323
Saddlebrains said:
Apparently CB has been out on the back burner with Sheafs injury

All eyes on a new CM

Then the centre half

It is 1 in 1 out. Moneys gone
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skybluecam

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,324
shmmeee said:
Technically no, he was a bad finisher then a good finisher which averages out to an average finisher.
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Agreed.

That doesn't make BTA a good finisher for having similar conversion stats.
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #3,325
skybluecam said:
No mate, he covered the losses.

The club lost £5m that FY, and that includes making a £2.4m profit from Hyam so it's more like £7m

Basically you don't understand that the club just loses money every single year and Doug has to cover that before he can even think about adding extra finance in for buying players.

edit: operating loss for 22/23 was £7.8m. 21/22 £5.6m. That doesn't include player trading. When people complain about Doug "not putting his own money in" he is covering those losses?
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We will see from fy24 accounts but I’d be extremely surprised if player sales didn’t cover the loss last year
 
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