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Transfer Rumour January transfer window (5 Viewers)

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SHUNT31

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #1,996
Mucca Mad Boys said:
So what? He scored 2 v Wolves, 1 against Man U and Leeds.

This scored in ‘x’ league games stat is a distortion of stats. Wright only scored in 12 league games and he’s a penalty taker, in fact, open goals only, they scored in the exact same amount of games.

To compare, I’m going to deliberately distort Gyokeres’ record in 22/23 using your methodology. Vik played 50 games for us in 22/23 and he scored 22 goals over 19 matches. Which means he didn’t score in 62% of his appearances. Only 4 (18%) of his goals were scored against a team placed higher than us in the table (Sheff U, Millwall, Watford and Sunderland).

With some effort, you can distort stats to fit a narrative.
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Re the penalties, genuine question…

Would you feel confident with our £8m number 9 taking a penalty?
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #1,997
Simms is never in a world where Keith O'Neill exists going to be our worst "pound for pound" signing
 
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SHUNT31

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #1,998
David O'Day said:
strange hill
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Why don’t you offer a genuine counter argument to the facts that I have stated…
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #1,999
SHUNT31 said:
Re the penalties, genuine question…

Would you feel confident with our £8m number 9 taking a penalty?
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He was £3.5m
 
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SHUNT31

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,000
David O'Day said:
Simms is never in a world where Keith O'Neill exists going to be our worst "pound for pound" signing
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Bit before my time tbf. But a quick internet search will tell you he had a degenerative bone disease while with us and is now disabled.

If, and I hope it doesn’t, something similar happens to Simms, I will quite rightly apologise.
 

SHUNT31

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,001
CCFCSteve said:
He was £3.5m
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Probably paid more than that now as the whole additional fees will not be dependant on promotion. Point still stands.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,002
SHUNT31 said:
You cannot compare Wright and Simms. When Wright is not scoring, he’s creating. Always a threat. Simms on the other hand offers us absolutely nothing.

Can’t run in behind, can’t hold the ball up, doesn’t win many headers. I am astonished at the amount of people that are happy with the return we are getting from him.
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He can, he’s scored 2 headers this season and scored at least 3-4 last season. Similarly, he does run behind, his goals v Plymouth, Stoke, Bristol away and even Sakamoto’s goal v Cardiff was created by Simms getting in behind their defence and outmuscling before getting a shot off.

For hold ups, again, watch Haji’s goal v Wolves and there’s a few examples of that kind of passage of play.

The issue is, and this applies to all of our strikers, we do not put balls in behind for strikers to run onto nearly enough.

Simms and Wright even have the same number of assists this season.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,003
SHUNT31 said:
Bit before my time tbf. But a quick internet search will tell you he had a degenerative bone disease while with us and is now disabled.

If, and I hope it doesn’t, something similar happens to Simms, I will quite rightly apologise.
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That means spending a million 23 years ago on him was even worse.

You are talking shite but it's your right to so crack on
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,004
SHUNT31 said:
Re the penalties, genuine question…

Would you feel confident with our £8m number 9 taking a penalty?
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It’s not really a relevant question because not all strikers like taking penalties. He scores enough open play goals that I’m happy with.
 

SHUNT31

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,005
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It’s not really a relevant question because not all strikers like taking penalties. He scores enough open play goals that I’m happy with.
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2 goals in 23 games this season, for the fee paid, you are happy with that?
 

SHUNT31

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,006
David O'Day said:
That means spending a million 23 years ago on him was even worse.

You are talking shite but it's your right to so crack on
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He developed a bone disease while with us, hardly going to criticise him. Nothing wrong with Simms, he’s just shite.

Ironic, you of all people, telling someone they’re talking shite.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,007
SHUNT31 said:
Probably paid more than that now as the whole additional fees will not be dependant on promotion. Point still stands.
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Nowhere near 8m though so no point quoting that figure (it’s probably no more than half that)
 

SHUNT31

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,008
CCFCSteve said:
Nowhere near 8m though so no point quoting that figure (it’s probably no more than half that)
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The point still stands, you wouldn’t fancy him.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,009
SHUNT31 said:
He developed a bone disease while with us, hardly going to criticise him. Nothing wrong with Simms, he’s just shite.

Ironic, you of all people, telling someone they’re talking shite.
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yep, you are still talking shite

The reason O'Neill was shite for us is not important, he was a far worse "pound for pound" signing

Anyway crack on
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,010
SHUNT31 said:
The point still stands, you wouldn’t fancy him.
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I’d actually want him to start taking penalties at least until Wright is out to build some confidence. Unless there’s footage out there of the shittest pen
 
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Pusb1

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,011
SkyBlueDom26 said:
It’s a Huddersfield account that’s made it up to troll
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he has just started following us on Instagram though…
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,012
Pusb1 said:
he has just started following us on Instagram though…
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Been following since Rudoni joined us I think?
 

SHUNT31

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,013
David O'Day said:
yep, you are still talking shite

The reason O'Neill was shite for us is not important, he was a far worse "pound for pound" signing

Anyway crack on
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Absolute clown.

I also said ‘one of’ not the absolute. Certainly wouldn’t use a guy that developed a disability as an example.
 

SHUNT31

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,014
Sky Blue Goblin said:
I’d actually want him to start taking penalties at least until Wright is out to build some confidence. Unless there’s footage out there of the shittest pen
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That’s fair enough. Personally, wouldn’t want him anywhere near it.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,015
SHUNT31 said:
That’s fair enough. Personally, wouldn’t want him anywhere near it.
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Fair enough, I think we can both agree Simms is struggling this year, just disagree on the cause and how to go about it
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,016
Pusb1 said:
he has just started following us on Instagram though…
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Been following us for ages as he’s mates with rudoni
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,017
So is the fella who had a bone disorder a better signing than someone who scored 19 goals last season?

No, end of really
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,018
Matt Crooks going hull, would have been a good signing for us in midfield…..
 
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SHUNT31

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,019
David O'Day said:
So is the fella who had a bone disorder a better signing than someone who scored 19 goals last season?

No, end of really
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You’re completely missing the point, I wouldn’t even compare the two.

You are literally using someone that is disabled as an argument in your defence of Simms. Does that not say it all?
 

Balli001

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,020
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Matt Crooks going hull, would have been a good signing for us in midfield…..
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On what basis?
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,021
SHUNT31 said:
You’re completely missing the point, I wouldn’t even compare the two.

You are literally using someone that is disabled as an argument in your defence of Simms. Does that not say it all?
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the point is it doesn't matter why they were bad, just that they were bad

the argument isn't who is the worst non disabled player, it was the wort pound for pound player and we spent what was a small fortune then on some whop turned out could hardly walk thus he was a worse signing.

Anyway, you crack on being wrong
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,022
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Matt Crooks going hull, would have been a good signing for us in midfield…..
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really, nah
 

SHUNT31

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,023
David O'Day said:
the point is it doesn't matter why they were bad, just that they were bad

the argument isn't who is the worst non disabled player, it was the wort pound for pound player and we spent what was a small fortune then on some whop turned out could hardly walk thus he was a worse signing.

Anyway, you crack on being wrong
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How can I be wrong? I have stated an opinion based on facts. All you’ve done is shout about how one player 23 years ago may be a worst pound for pound signing. I never said there weren’t others by the way, just said Simms was up there.

The fact he’s the one you think of suggests that in fact, you don’t rate Simms that highly at all. Just being argumentative, as usual.

Happy to agree to disagree. Really hope I turn out to be wrong re Simms, but I just cannot see it.
 

alexccfc99

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  • Jan 6, 2025
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,025
SHUNT31 said:
2 goals in 23 games this season, for the fee paid, you are happy with that?
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How many minutes has he played? He’s started 10 games and no consecutive starts since September.

We’re not getting anything out of any of our strikers because let’s not forget that BTA and Bassette only cost £1m less than Simms. Simms cost £3.5m upfront with incentives taking it to £8m which haven’t been fulfilled yet.

All of our strikers can’t be useless.
 
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SHUNT31

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,026
Mucca Mad Boys said:
How many minutes has he played? He’s started 10 games and no consecutive starts since September.

We’re not getting anything out of any of our strikers because let’s not forget that BTA and Bassette only cost £1m less than Simms. Simms cost £3.5m upfront with incentives taking it to £8m which haven’t been fulfilled yet.

All of our strikers can’t be useless.
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2 goals in 10 starts is hardly a good return though. There’s a reason he hasn’t had consecutive starts and he is clearly behind Bassette in the managers eyes.

Bassette shouldn’t be leading the line this early but is being thrown in because the manager(s) don’t trust Simms.

BTA just as useless btw.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,027
Just seen another Michal Helik Joining this week post. Either there’s something in it or I’m going insane
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,028
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Just seen another Michal Helik Joining this week post. Either there’s something in it or I’m going insane
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mate it was a Huddersfield fan trolling off the back of some random article of someone saying we ‘should’ sign him
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,029
SkyBlueDom26 said:
mate it was a Huddersfield fan trolling off the back of some random article of someone saying we ‘should’ sign him
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Yeah but now I’ve got more covs fan saying it’s sorted . Losing my mind with em
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jan 6, 2025
  • #2,030
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Yeah but now I’ve got more covs fan saying it’s sorted . Losing my mind with em
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Isn’t happening mate lol, no chance
 
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