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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,411
RoboCCFC90 said:
Why? Surely we are all fans of his as he plays for our club, no?
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Obviously not all of us.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,412
Saddlebrains said:
I'm told if they both go, that should give us the funds to PURCHASE the Chelsea CM.

Burroughs is being looked at as the Milan stand in until end of season, depending Lampards view

Shifting on then Tavares and Collins will mean we have funds to buy another player also
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That's a lot of wheeling and dealing for this window, it seems far too complex to come off.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,413
Old Warwickshire lad said:
Obviously not all of us.
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I understand disagreeing whether a player has what it takes to be at the club or make it to the next level, those opinions are being part of football, but poking other fans for apparent amusement just seems very strange behaviour.
 
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gspotgaz

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,414
Wait sorry so two senior pros have to be sold to bring in ONE kid on loan (who plays in a different position) ??
 
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Martw

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,415
Captain Dart said:
That's a lot of wheeling and dealing for this window, it seems far too complex to come off.
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It’s weird as we all see the same games but with different eyes! I genuinely thought that both Howley and Burroughs looked like they could make it with us , they were though at the time in a good team which perhaps made it easier for them with the players they were surrounded by.
 
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Chris1987

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,416
Non
gspotgaz said:
Wait sorry so two senior pros have to be sold to bring in ONE kid on loan (who plays in a different position) ??
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No to buy the player not loan
 
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Chris1987

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,417
robbiethemole said:
Hull sign Joe Gelhardt from Leeds on loan!! See, Doug, you can get loans in just now! hahahahaha
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Easily done and they may well have been with Gelhardt
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,418
gspotgaz said:
Wait sorry so two senior pros have to be sold to bring in ONE kid on loan (who plays in a different position) ??
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We're skint. Robins and Austin spent all the Gyok/Hamer/Fa cup/ST money.
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,419
Skyblueweeman said:
Ignoring Collins as we're fine for keepers and ignoring Burroughs replacing Milan (not ideal), then that's 3 outfield players leaving and only 2 coming in?

We're quite a light squad as it is...we need more bodies through the door.

Especially experienced as despite his faults (and I think he's good player), Lati is apparently a decent person to have around and has a good bit of experience.
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Not to replace but to challenge whoever gets the gig and give them rest tbf.
 
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False9

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,420
pusbccfc said:
We're skint. Robins and Austin spent all the Gyok/Hamer/Fa cup/ST money.
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Yes but we now have a large squad of our own assets to sell. This is the second stage/plan b
 

Robinshio

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,421
could we be the ones in for Cally stewart ?
 

Balli001

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,422
Robinshio said:
could we be the ones in for Cally stewart ?
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No its Walsall apparently
 

TomRad85

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,423
Robinshio said:
could we be the ones in for Cally stewart ?
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No its not us i don't think but fair play to Leamington moving another striker on into the football league.
 
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CCFCAnalysis

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,424
My rant on loans

I'm starting to get worried - DK & FL should be too.

Time for DK & FL to act, a look over the shoulder at relegation and a bit of a rant about loans.
ccfcanalysis.substack.com
 
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SBAndy

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,425
fernandopartridge said:
Hopefully a bid from Blackburn might tempt Stoke to make a bid
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We’ve definitely leaked this to the media in the hope that something like that happens.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,426
SBAndy said:
We’ve definitely leaked this to the media in the hope that something like that happens.
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Suspect there's legs in this. It's in our interest to do so to be fair, even if it will piss off Blackburn.
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,427
Martw said:
It’s weird as we all see the same games but with different eyes! I genuinely thought that both Howley and Burroughs looked like they could make it with us , they were though at the time in a good team which perhaps made it easier for them with the players they were surrounded by.
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I thought Burroughs would be a peripheral squad player this season, he is certainly no lightweight and wouldn't get bullied. I was surprised when he did go on loan he went to Scotland and not a league one club and thought that move signalled the end of his time with CCFC but now it looks otherwise.

We will have to see what the plan for him and Howley is in the next 2 weeks.
 
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Viktor17

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,428
TomRad85 said:
No its not us i don't think but fair play to Leamington moving another striker on into the football league.
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Shrewsbury. Official now.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,429
robbiethemole said:
Hull sign Joe Gelhardt from Leeds on loan!! See, Doug, you can get loans in just now! hahahahaha
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Why would we sign Joe Gelhardt?!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,430
CCFCAnalysis said:
My rant on loans

I'm starting to get worried - DK & FL should be too.

Time for DK & FL to act, a look over the shoulder at relegation and a bit of a rant about loans.
ccfcanalysis.substack.com
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Agree with your thoughts on relegation.
Totally disagree with what you're saying about loans.
 
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MalcolmPowder

Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,431
TomRad85 said:
No its not us i don't think but fair play to Leamington moving another striker on into the football league.
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Going to Shrewsbury

Leamington have a couple on the radar of EFL clubs
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,432
Saddlebrains said:
I'm told if they both go, that should give us the funds to PURCHASE the Chelsea CM.

Burroughs is being looked at as the Milan stand in until end of season, depending Lampards view

Shifting on then Tavares and Collins will mean we have funds to buy another player also
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That sounds great in theory, I just hope there's enough time left to make it happen.
2 weeks sounds like plenty of time, but we don't seen to be a club that moves quickly.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,433
CCFCAnalysis said:
My rant on loans

I'm starting to get worried - DK & FL should be too.

Time for DK & FL to act, a look over the shoulder at relegation and a bit of a rant about loans.
ccfcanalysis.substack.com
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Be careful, a no mark prick will be along soon to dismiss talk of going down.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,434
It might be six points but it’s six teams and Brum wasn’t. I can’t see us getting in trouble from here unless Lampard really is Rooney 2.
 
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DannyThomas_1981

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,435
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Be careful, a no mark prick will be along soon to dismiss talk of going down.
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Or alternatively a no mark prick will be along to consistently tell us we are no hopers and doomed for relegation - hold on - you've just posted that we are for the millionth time.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,436
shmmeee said:
It might be six points but it’s six teams and Brum wasn’t. I can’t see us getting in trouble from here unless Lampard really is Rooney 2.
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Nor me. But I think the overall message of not being complacent is correct.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,437
Perennial Lurker said:
That's basically 4-4-2 but with even less defensive cover
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Some people on here think we’re playing FIFA Ultimate Team
 

zuni

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,438
shmmeee said:
It might be six points but it’s six teams and Brum wasn’t. I can’t see us getting in trouble from here unless Lampard really is Rooney 2.
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I really think FL will come good, already seeing way more effort structure given time I think we will do ok or better
 
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skybluecam

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,439
gspotgaz said:
Wait sorry so two senior pros have to be sold to bring in ONE kid on loan (who plays in a different position) ??
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I know Lati runs like a senior citizen but he is only 25
 

eastcj04

Active Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,440
gspotgaz said:
Wait sorry so two senior pros have to be sold to bring in ONE kid on loan (who plays in a different position) ??
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Get the point you’re trying to make but neither could be classed as established for us. If selling two bit-part squad players (who the majority of us are happy to see depart) gets us a highly rated young CM we’d probably be silly to turn that down, right? Especially if the ‘season is done’ like most seem free to admit.


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quinn1971

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,441
pusbccfc said:
We're skint. Robins and Austin spent all the Gyok/Hamer/Fa cup/ST money.
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Spot on, we‘ll have to move players on before anyone comes in
 
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quinn1971

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,442
interesting take on things

Coventry City Owner Doug King and Head Coach Frank Lampard face several challenges in this window as they work to strengthen the playing squad while navigating financial and strategic constraints.

The club is operating at a financial loss, meaning there are limited funds available for new signings. It is a delicate balance between investing in players and ensuring the clubs remains financially stable.

The EFL Financial Fair Play regulations limit how much can be spent on transfers and wages relative to the club’s revenue. Frank Lampard will have identified the most pressing areas for improvement in the squad and target affordable players.

Competing for high-quality players is always a challenge, especially in the January window, when prices are often inflated, and options limited. Convincing players to join with our current league position when other teams are vying for their signature will not be easy. Overpaying for short-term fixes could also hurt the club’s financial stability. Developing and integrating young talent (the current model) requires time and patience.

With funds also needed for stadium-related decisions, whether to secure a long-term lease or move towards ownership, any transfer spending will put additional pressure on Doug King to balance competing priorities.

We must believe that the owner and head coach have a clear and united approach in January, focussing on strategic, value-driven signings that address the squad’s weaknesses without overextending the club’s finances. Creative deals, such as loans and free transfers, will likely play a key role in navigating this challenging window. The competing priorities are to ensure the club is finacially secure as well as competitive in the league.

As we reflect on our near-promotion to the Premier League—falling just a penalty kick short against Luton Town—it’s clear that reaching the topflight is an exhilarating but costly journey. Last season we narrowly missed the play-offs and reached the FA Cup semi-final, raising expectations for the future.

Supporters thought we were going to be promoted this season (me being one), but with the change in management and where the team’s League position sits at the end of 2024, are those expectations fading?

Promotion and the Financial Realities.
As we move into 2025 it’s clearer than ever that success of football clubs requires careful financial management, significant investment, and bold decision-making. With the unwavering support of supporters and strategic leadership, we still believe the Sky Blues can realistically aspire to reach the Premier League.

The financial realities of the Championship are stark. We have touched on this in previous newsletters. Our revenue and payroll position us among the lower end of the Championship sides, but that hasn’t stopped clubs like Luton and Huddersfield from achieving promotion in recent times.

In an ideal world, football club owners are temporary guardians, respectful of the club’s history, mindful of its future, and aware that if the game belongs to anyone, it’s the fans. Sadly, this isn’t always the case in modern football.

Experts like Kieran Maguire (The Price of Football) and @SwissRamble (who recently published The Cost of Promotion: What Price Paradise?) have highlighted the financial challenges of promotion, particularly the disparities caused by parachute payments. Here’s a closer look at some of the numbers in their reports.

It seems clear that higher revenue means a higher budget, so a better chance of promotion. @SwissRamble does make the point that “clubs with low income do have a chance of going up by outsmarting, rather than outspending, their rivals – though a generous owner helps”

The Cost of Promotion in the last 10 seasons

1) Revenue
The revenue of two of the promoted clubs in 2022/23 were Burnley (£65m) and Sheffield United (£64m). Newcastle recorded the highest revenue pre-promotion with £86m (2016/17). However, five clubs in this period have achieved promotion with less than £20m revenue: Luton, Watford, Huddersfield, Brentford and Bournemouth
For comparison our 2022/23 revenue was £20.4m, showing we are within reach of achieving promotion. Not owning our stadium, with the access to 365 revenues, is problematic. The EFL regulations stipulating football clubs need to have a minimum 5 year commitment has been covered elsewhere, but remains a major consideration.

2) Parachute Payments
The disparity in finances in the Championship is widened by parachute payments made to clubs relegated from the Premier League. Relegated clubs receive significant financial advantages: £48m (Year 1), £39m (Year 2), and £18m (Year 3).
In the last five seasons, two of the three promoted clubs each year were in receipt of parachute payments.

3) Wages
Over the last 10 years the promoted teams’ wage bills have average £70m, with the highest being: Fulham (£90m), Aston Villa (£83m), and Newcastle (£80m). Our local rivals Villa spent £29m more on wages than their total revenue that season, losing £84m in their promotion season (2018/19) via the play-offs.
Luton succeeded with £18.4m (2022/23), while Huddersfield (£22m, 2016/17) and Watford (£21m, 2014/15) also achieved promotion on low budgets.

Again, for context, the Championship wage average in 2022/23 was £29.7m. Burnley (£53.6m), Sheffield United (£48.7m), and Watford (£48.7m) topped the list, while Blackpool had the lowest (£13.5m). Our 2022/23 wages were £18.5m, among the lowest in the Championship.

4) Profit and Loss
All the promoted clubs from the Championship to the Premier League over the past 10 years made financial losses. No fewer than 12 of the 27 promoted clubs since 2014/15 lost more than £50m in doing so. The lowest loss was Burnley (£3.6m, 2015/16) and the highest loss Aston Villa (£84m, 2018/19).

In 2022/23 we lost £4.9m, relatively modest compared to many clubs, but costs that need to be covered.

Insights from Recently Published Accounts (2023/24)
A few clubs have already released their 2023/24 accounts, revealing interesting comparisons. Wages for Norwich City were £51.8m, Preston North End (£22m), The promoted sides from League One Sheffield Wednesday (£21.8m) and Plymouth Argyle (£16.8m).

Hull City have also recently published their 2023/24 accounts. Wages rose 25%, from £23.7m to £29.6m. Under new owner Acun Ilicali, wages have doubled since he took over, and £38.5m in losses have been covered with loans. Their Revenue increased to £21.2m (from £18.1m). Hull’s revenue is still approximately £100m lower than their last season in the Premier League, highlighting the vast financial gap between the two leagues.

For comparison, our revenue for 2022/23 was £20.4m.

We await the publishing of our accounts for 2023/24.

Whilst supporters want owners to spend on exciting new players, prudent management of finances is key.
#Keep the faith
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,443
quinn1971 said:
interesting take on things
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Isn't this just AI?
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,444
quinn1971 said:
interesting take on things

Coventry City Owner Doug King and Head Coach Frank Lampard face several challenges in this window as they work to strengthen the playing squad while navigating financial and strategic constraints.

The club is operating at a financial loss, meaning there are limited funds available for new signings. It is a delicate balance between investing in players and ensuring the clubs remains financially stable.

The EFL Financial Fair Play regulations limit how much can be spent on transfers and wages relative to the club’s revenue. Frank Lampard will have identified the most pressing areas for improvement in the squad and target affordable players.

Competing for high-quality players is always a challenge, especially in the January window, when prices are often inflated, and options limited. Convincing players to join with our current league position when other teams are vying for their signature will not be easy. Overpaying for short-term fixes could also hurt the club’s financial stability. Developing and integrating young talent (the current model) requires time and patience.

With funds also needed for stadium-related decisions, whether to secure a long-term lease or move towards ownership, any transfer spending will put additional pressure on Doug King to balance competing priorities.

We must believe that the owner and head coach have a clear and united approach in January, focussing on strategic, value-driven signings that address the squad’s weaknesses without overextending the club’s finances. Creative deals, such as loans and free transfers, will likely play a key role in navigating this challenging window. The competing priorities are to ensure the club is finacially secure as well as competitive in the league.

As we reflect on our near-promotion to the Premier League—falling just a penalty kick short against Luton Town—it’s clear that reaching the topflight is an exhilarating but costly journey. Last season we narrowly missed the play-offs and reached the FA Cup semi-final, raising expectations for the future.

Supporters thought we were going to be promoted this season (me being one), but with the change in management and where the team’s League position sits at the end of 2024, are those expectations fading?

Promotion and the Financial Realities.
As we move into 2025 it’s clearer than ever that success of football clubs requires careful financial management, significant investment, and bold decision-making. With the unwavering support of supporters and strategic leadership, we still believe the Sky Blues can realistically aspire to reach the Premier League.

The financial realities of the Championship are stark. We have touched on this in previous newsletters. Our revenue and payroll position us among the lower end of the Championship sides, but that hasn’t stopped clubs like Luton and Huddersfield from achieving promotion in recent times.

In an ideal world, football club owners are temporary guardians, respectful of the club’s history, mindful of its future, and aware that if the game belongs to anyone, it’s the fans. Sadly, this isn’t always the case in modern football.

Experts like Kieran Maguire (The Price of Football) and @SwissRamble (who recently published The Cost of Promotion: What Price Paradise?) have highlighted the financial challenges of promotion, particularly the disparities caused by parachute payments. Here’s a closer look at some of the numbers in their reports.

It seems clear that higher revenue means a higher budget, so a better chance of promotion. @SwissRamble does make the point that “clubs with low income do have a chance of going up by outsmarting, rather than outspending, their rivals – though a generous owner helps”

The Cost of Promotion in the last 10 seasons

1) Revenue
The revenue of two of the promoted clubs in 2022/23 were Burnley (£65m) and Sheffield United (£64m). Newcastle recorded the highest revenue pre-promotion with £86m (2016/17). However, five clubs in this period have achieved promotion with less than £20m revenue: Luton, Watford, Huddersfield, Brentford and Bournemouth
For comparison our 2022/23 revenue was £20.4m, showing we are within reach of achieving promotion. Not owning our stadium, with the access to 365 revenues, is problematic. The EFL regulations stipulating football clubs need to have a minimum 5 year commitment has been covered elsewhere, but remains a major consideration.

2) Parachute Payments
The disparity in finances in the Championship is widened by parachute payments made to clubs relegated from the Premier League. Relegated clubs receive significant financial advantages: £48m (Year 1), £39m (Year 2), and £18m (Year 3).
In the last five seasons, two of the three promoted clubs each year were in receipt of parachute payments.

3) Wages
Over the last 10 years the promoted teams’ wage bills have average £70m, with the highest being: Fulham (£90m), Aston Villa (£83m), and Newcastle (£80m). Our local rivals Villa spent £29m more on wages than their total revenue that season, losing £84m in their promotion season (2018/19) via the play-offs.
Luton succeeded with £18.4m (2022/23), while Huddersfield (£22m, 2016/17) and Watford (£21m, 2014/15) also achieved promotion on low budgets.

Again, for context, the Championship wage average in 2022/23 was £29.7m. Burnley (£53.6m), Sheffield United (£48.7m), and Watford (£48.7m) topped the list, while Blackpool had the lowest (£13.5m). Our 2022/23 wages were £18.5m, among the lowest in the Championship.

4) Profit and Loss
All the promoted clubs from the Championship to the Premier League over the past 10 years made financial losses. No fewer than 12 of the 27 promoted clubs since 2014/15 lost more than £50m in doing so. The lowest loss was Burnley (£3.6m, 2015/16) and the highest loss Aston Villa (£84m, 2018/19).

In 2022/23 we lost £4.9m, relatively modest compared to many clubs, but costs that need to be covered.

Insights from Recently Published Accounts (2023/24)
A few clubs have already released their 2023/24 accounts, revealing interesting comparisons. Wages for Norwich City were £51.8m, Preston North End (£22m), The promoted sides from League One Sheffield Wednesday (£21.8m) and Plymouth Argyle (£16.8m).

Hull City have also recently published their 2023/24 accounts. Wages rose 25%, from £23.7m to £29.6m. Under new owner Acun Ilicali, wages have doubled since he took over, and £38.5m in losses have been covered with loans. Their Revenue increased to £21.2m (from £18.1m). Hull’s revenue is still approximately £100m lower than their last season in the Premier League, highlighting the vast financial gap between the two leagues.

For comparison, our revenue for 2022/23 was £20.4m.

We await the publishing of our accounts for 2023/24.

Whilst supporters want owners to spend on exciting new players, prudent management of finances is key.
#Keep the faith
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Swiss Ramble always does excellent analyses.
Where was this article taken from?
 
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quinn1971

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #4,445
SBT said:
Isn't this just AI?
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Newsletter, def not AI
 
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