Alternatively he's deserved a pay rise for his performances this year.Not sure I see the point if he wasn't out of contract at the end of the season. Not like we're going to be turning down massive bids for him and this will safeguard potential transfer fees.
Especially as it says new deal, not an extension, so we'll now likely be paying him more next year that we otherwise needed to.
Too short for you?Meh.
Maybe. But it's still money we don't need to spend when playing with a tight budget. If he was coming out of contract I think 'ok', but he's not. It wasn't necessary at this stage.Alternatively he's deserved a pay rise for his performances this year.
It is if he's worth it, and would get that cash elsewhere if we didn't.But it's still money we don't need to spend when playing with a tight budget.
But he's contracted to us, so that's irrelevant. And as we don't know what he's on we can't say that someone else would be willing to offer him more.It is if he's worth it, and would get that cash elsewhere if we didn't.
Also, what kind of culture fails to reward success? Would you sign for such an organisation? Would you try your hardest if there were no motivation of something better for doing so?
But he's contracted to us, so that's irrelevant. And as we don't know what he's on we can't say that someone else would be willing to offer him more.
If the goals dry up, by this time next year he could be surplus to requirements and then the extra year and wages looks like a bad decision. Allen has improved his scoring rate this year but despite his high energy he doesn't really affect the game in any other way. We gave Godden a new contract and it's not looking like a great decision so far. To be fair to Allen he will give his all, but if you go through the match threads I'm sure you'll find plenty criticising his overall contribution this year. The goals seem to have helped gloss over that (and he's also missed some good chances too).
As for rewarding success, what's wrong with win/goal bonuses etc? We don't see players taking pay cuts when they play like shit for six months.
This isn't having a go at Allen or wanting him gone. It's about us spending more money, which we have very little of, on someone that we'd have anyway and who should really be no more than a back-up. If we have all our midfielders here and fit next year, I'd have Sheaf, Hamer and O'Hare ahead of him. Eccles is a better bet to bring in as DM cover and Palmer is far more creative and arguably wins the ball more in an attacking role. So basically he's there if you want someone to run around. Do we really need to be spending more of our meagre budget on that?
What?But he's contracted to us, so that's irrelevant.
It doesn't matter how much other clubs might offer him, he's contracted to us.What?
It doesn't matter how much other clubs might offer him, he's contracted to us.
So you don't think how much he's paid has any effect on him, he should be grateful and pay us for the privilege?It doesn't matter how much other clubs might offer him, he's contracted to us.
Yup, 7 goals from midfield and a great work ethic. I hope he finds it difficult to command a place next season but I certainly think he's done enough to deserve a contract.Deserves a new deal with how much he’s improved. Happy to have him as a squad player as he does chip in with goals now which he’s added to his game.
No, of course not. Not sure how you take me pointing out he's already contracted and being pretty well paid compared to the average person as me saying he should be paying us.So you don't think how much he's paid has any effect on him, he should be grateful and pay us for the privilege?
It's hardly far right - football are one of the few professions where the workers see a decent share of the proceeds of the business. It's not like he's on minimum wage struggling to heat and eat.Amazed at this far right approach to workers - are you Peter Bone?
Unless we get promoted I can’t see Hamer being here. He wants to play at a higher level and I imagine there will be a few clubs interested especially now his discipline is so much better. if he was going to extend the likelihood is he would have done it by now, he signed the new deal at the beginning of March last year.But he's contracted to us, so that's irrelevant. And as we don't know what he's on we can't say that someone else would be willing to offer him more.
If the goals dry up, by this time next year he could be surplus to requirements and then the extra year and wages looks like a bad decision. Allen has improved his scoring rate this year but despite his high energy he doesn't really affect the game in any other way. We gave Godden a new contract and it's not looking like a great decision so far. To be fair to Allen he will give his all, but if you go through the match threads I'm sure you'll find plenty criticising his overall contribution this year. The goals seem to have helped gloss over that (and he's also missed some good chances too).
As for rewarding success, what's wrong with win/goal bonuses etc? We don't see players taking pay cuts when they play like shit for six months.
This isn't having a go at Allen or wanting him gone. It's about us spending more money, which we have very little of, on someone that we'd have anyway and who should really be no more than a back-up. If we have all our midfielders here and fit next year, I'd have Sheaf, Hamer and O'Hare ahead of him. Eccles is a better bet to bring in as DM cover and Palmer is far more creative and arguably wins the ball more in an attacking role. So basically he's there if you want someone to run around. Do we really need to be spending more of our meagre budget on that?
Quite possibly. I've no doubt he has ambitions to play as high as possible.Unless we get promoted I can’t see Hamer being here. He wants to play at a higher level and I imagine there will be a few clubs interested especially now his discipline is so much better. if he was going to extend the likelihood is he would have done it by now, he signed the new deal at the beginning of March last year.
Can someone go and kick Vik in the bollocks thenSeems to be players only sign contract extensions when injured
They’re a funny bunch on here.Nearly every message I’ve received since last night from my mates is slating this decision to offer Allen a new contract.
I come on here and it’s a great decision.
I don’t know what to think anymore.
They’re a funny bunch on here.
There’s a few that just like to be sassholes (you know the type, like to make sarky comments just for the sake of it. My daughter does it but then again she is a 12 year old girl. They post laughing emojis trying to look clever).
There’s also a lot of “white knights” who try to stick up for the poor damsel in distress. (player plays badly, poster on here points out that they’ve played badly, and there’s always one or two that start pointing to irrelevant stats and claim that you are clueless because in 2019 you once said Biamou took his goal well)
Then there’s the contrarians. If you say “I’m not sure handing Jamie Allen a new contract is a good idea, he’s ok at L1 but we really need to look at improving the squad if we wish to aim higher”, then there’ll be a contrarian who will just argue the point for no apparent reason.
Then there are the lurkers and occasional posters. Often they think “I’m not sure I agree with that” or “I have a viewpoint to add which might be relevant” but don’t post because they can’t be arsed to receive a daft emoji, white knight, contrarian or other BS response.
Oh, and the opinion of the admins is of course sacred.
With regards to Allen, my opinion is “meh”. Ok, but not as pleased as I was about the extension for the much improved Ben Sheaf (who was poor to start but is now very good).
They post laughing emojis trying to look clever
Could not of said it better.They’re a funny bunch on here.
There’s a few that just like to be sassholes (you know the type, like to make sarky comments just for the sake of it. My daughter does it but then again she is a 12 year old girl. They post laughing emojis trying to look clever).
There’s also a lot of “white knights” who try to stick up for the poor damsel in distress. (player plays badly, poster on here points out that they’ve played badly, and there’s always one or two that start pointing to irrelevant stats and claim that you are clueless because in 2019 you once said Biamou took his goal well)
Then there’s the contrarians. If you say “I’m not sure handing Jamie Allen a new contract is a good idea, he’s ok at L1 but we really need to look at improving the squad if we wish to aim higher”, then there’ll be a contrarian who will just argue the point for no apparent reason.
Then there are the lurkers and occasional posters. Often they think “I’m not sure I agree with that” or “I have a viewpoint to add which might be relevant” but don’t post because they can’t be arsed to receive a daft emoji, white knight, contrarian or other BS response.
Oh, and the opinion of the admins is of course sacred.
With regards to Allen, my opinion is “meh”. Ok, but not as pleased as I was about the extension for the much improved Ben Sheaf (who was poor to start but is now very good).
Gonna struggle in the prem with that midfieldA midfield of Eccles, Allen and Sheaf next season then......
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