Jamie Allen is Guilty of War Crimes (4 Viewers)

stevefloyd · Jan 30, 2023

Ive been pretty critical of him as a footballer playing for us but Robins hasn't got anyone to really replace him with, my main crticism of him is that he is usually late to any tackle where the ball has invariably been moved on, he gives 100% I am sure because his energy levels have been very admirable BUT for us to progress as a team we really do need better, our midfield needs to defend as a unit and sadly that is not happening with Allen in the form of tackles but he does give us energy in closing down but just think if he could close down and win a few tackles his ratings would definitely go up. As I said in another post his time must surely be coming to an end here and yes he can pass if he has time and space but he is very lightweight and seems to be easily knocked off the ball. I wish the guy no harm he is what he is he and was decent in league 1 for us and has scored a few goals but he isn't what we need now to rock up the league..

shmmeee · Jan 30, 2023

Evo1883 said:
No , but it doesn't mean he's a shit footballer , we need a squad

Ive been asking for months what he brings other than stamina in running and this is all I’ve got back: vague statements about needing a squad or adding something. Ask about any other member of the squad and they can specify a trait that makes them worthwhile. I think that says it all.

Evo1883 · Jan 30, 2023

I've yet to see a compelling argument to suggest Jamie allen is a nothing midfielder , especially when he's the clubs joint second top scorer this season

shmmeee · Jan 30, 2023

Evo1883 said:
I've yet to see a compelling argument to suggest Jamie allen is a nothing midfielder , especially when he's the clubs joint second top scorer this season

He’s played almost every minute as part of a front three! I’d hope so. He has a lower MPG than Waghorn.

Evo1883 · Jan 30, 2023

shmmeee said:
He’s played almost every minute as part of a front three! I’d hope so. He has a lower MPG than Waghorn.

Again though you're ignoring the times the bloke gets dropped back into central midfield .. I mean besides the goals and the assists and the running and the closing down from the front .. what does Jamie allen actually do

Deleted member 5849 · Jan 30, 2023

shmmeee said:
Ive been asking for months what he brings other than stamina in running

I'm pretty sure my first post tried to address that(!)

shmmeee · Jan 30, 2023

Evo1883 said:
Again though you're ignoring the times the bloke gets dropped back into central midfield .. I mean besides the goals and the assists and the running and the closing down from the front .. what does Jamie allen actually do

He doesn’t close down though, he stands off and never wins the ball. He doesn’t assist either, he has the same assists as Eccles and one more than Panzo. And he’s an AM.

Evo1883 · Jan 30, 2023

Jamie allen has played 11 matches at attacking midfield BTW

Evo1883 · Jan 30, 2023

shmmeee said:
He doesn’t close down though, he stands off and never wins the ball. He doesn’t assist either, he has the same assists as Eccles and one more than Panzo. And he’s an AM.

As I've just said he's played 11 matches at attacking midfield this season

shmmeee · Jan 30, 2023

Evo1883 said:
Jamie allen has played 11 matches at attacking midfield BTW

Sure.

shmmeee · Jan 30, 2023

Evo1883 said:
As I've just said he's played 11 matches at attacking midfield this season

Nonsense. He’s played as part of the box most games. Who am I going to believe transfermarkt or my lying eyes?

Evo1883 · Jan 30, 2023

shmmeee said:
Nonsense. He’s played as part of the box most games. Who am I going to believe transfermarkt or my lying eyes?

You're not believing anything put infront of you to be fair , so I'm going to say your lying eyes

Grendel · Jan 30, 2023

shmmeee said:
He doesn’t close down though, he stands off and never wins the ball. He doesn’t assist either, he has the same assists as Eccles and one more than Panzo. And he’s an AM.

Name	GoalsGL	AssistsA	PlayedP	Goals per 90	Mins per GoalMPG	Total Shots	Goal Conversion	Shot Accuracy
1	Viktor GyökeresGyökeres	13	4	29	0.48	189	52	25%	71%
2	Gustavo HamerHamer	5	3	24	0.24	376	45	11%	42%
2	Jamie AllenAllen	5	2	30	0.19	480	30	17%	57%
4	Kasey PalmerPalmer	4	3	26	0.24	376	25	16%	40%

Grendel · Jan 30, 2023

He has one less assist than Palmer who has played far more in the AM role than Allen - more shots, greater shot accuracy, more goals...

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 30, 2023

Grendel said:
Name GoalsGL AssistsA PlayedP Goals per 90 Mins per GoalMPG Total Shots Goal Conversion Shot Accuracy
1 Viktor GyökeresGyökeres
13 4 29 0.48 189 52 25% 71%
2 Gustavo HamerHamer
5 3 24 0.24 376 45 11% 42%
2 Jamie AllenAllen
5 2 30 0.19 480 30 17% 57%
4 Kasey PalmerPalmer
4 3 26 0.24 376 25 16% 40%

Bloody double barrelled names

Hobo · Jan 30, 2023

fernandopartridge said:
He's an honest player and the importance of his work rate to the way we play cannot be understated.

He does lack some quality in execution at times but still a solid championship squad player.

Similar to Dabo, the vitriol is underserved.

I agree he is a decent squad player. You cant have a team of superstars.

lifeskyblue · Jan 30, 2023

Love reading lot of the opinions on this thread. Robins sees Allen everyday in training and knows his qualities (and deficiencies). He sees fit to name him captain when Fadz is injured and has played most games this season. Robins I think sees him as reliable, dependable and disciplined both on and off the field) and necessary to run and pressure opposition. He doesn’t always win the ball but is excellent at covering from side to side on the pitch (often the first to support/cover the wingbacks) and is effective at slowing opposition attacks.

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letsallsingtogether · Jan 30, 2023

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
You say that - I’ve always been a sheaf fan. But I counted on at least 3 occasions in the first half he played suicide passes to Allen who took the brunt from the fans for losing the ball

How dare you!
Its all down to one player and one alone.

letsallsingtogether · Jan 30, 2023

Evo1883 said:
As I've just said he's played 11 matches at attacking midfield this season

Yes but why didnt he run back and double up as a goalkeeper, fucking lazy if you ask me.

1ccfc · Jan 30, 2023

Grendel said:
Name GoalsGL AssistsA PlayedP Goals per 90 Mins per GoalMPG Total Shots Goal Conversion Shot Accuracy
1 Viktor GyökeresGyökeres 13 4 29 0.48 189 52 25% 71%
2 Gustavo HamerHamer 5 3 24 0.24 376 45 11% 42%
2 Jamie AllenAllen 5 2 30 0.19 480 30 17% 57%
4 Kasey PalmerPalmer 4 3 26 0.24 376 25 16% 40%

Looking at that I'm surprised Real or Barca aren't after our players. Allen, 30 goals per 90! He's even ahead of Vik who's only on 29. I'm going to be disappointed if we don't score at least 109 goals in our next game.

Matt smith · Jan 30, 2023

fernandopartridge said:
He's an honest player and the importance of his work rate to the way we play cannot be understated.

He does lack some quality in execution at times but still a solid championship squad player.

Similar to Dabo, the vitriol is underserved.

He was poor on Saturday

squad player by all means and has definitely contributed this season

but shouldn’t be starting as many games as he should if we want to make that next step

Grendel · Jan 30, 2023

Matt smith said:
He was poor on Saturday

squad player by all means and has definitely contributed this season

but shouldn’t be starting as many games as he should if we want to make that next step

Then nor would 70% of the team

shmmeee · Jan 30, 2023

Evo1883 said:
You're not believing anything put infront of you to be fair , so I'm going to say your lying eyes

No just that.

Look you think he’s good, I don’t. Not sure what else there is to say.

Evo1883 · Jan 30, 2023

Matt smith said:
He was poor on Saturday

squad player by all means and has definitely contributed this season

but shouldn’t be starting as many games as he should if we want to make that next step

The general consensus on here is our season faltered when fadz and o hare got injured , if they were both still in the side you'd have to imagine we'd be comfortable in the playoffs right now .. and allen would be a part of that .. we aren't dropping points because of Allen.

Grendel · Jan 30, 2023

shmmeee said:
No just that.

Look you think he’s good, I don’t. Not sure what else there is to say.

Other than the manager and the coaching staff agree with him and not you

Evo1883 · Jan 30, 2023

shmmeee said:
No just that.

Look you think he’s good, I don’t. Not sure what else there is to say.

I think he's adequate , good enough to play

Greggs · Jan 30, 2023

Grendel said:
Name GoalsGL AssistsA PlayedP Goals per 90 Mins per GoalMPG Total Shots Goal Conversion Shot Accuracy
1 Viktor GyökeresGyökeres 13 4 29 0.48 189 52 25% 71%
2 Gustavo HamerHamer 5 3 24 0.24 376 45 11% 42%
2 Jamie AllenAllen 5 2 30 0.19 480 30 17% 57%
4 Kasey PalmerPalmer 4 3 26 0.24 376 25 16% 40%

that has to be the world's shittest spreadsheet, it's that bad it's almost a work of art.

Evo1883 · Jan 30, 2023

The team as a collective get way too much stick here , not good enough for this not good enough for that , we lost 2 key players and our season faltered .

Our best 11 is good enough to compete for the playoffs .. we aren't shit ffs

shmmeee · Jan 30, 2023

Grendel said:
Other than the manager and the coaching staff agree with him and not you

Like how they keep picking Panzo? Or Biamou a couple of seasons ago?

Tommo1993 · Jan 30, 2023

Tbf if we were looking to “rebuild in the summer”, if we were looking at actual progression, Palmer wouldn’t be starting games either.

Palmer got himself out of jail on Saturday for standing in the right place and heading in a goal. Before that, like Allen, he was completely anonymous.

shmmeee · Jan 30, 2023

Evo1883 said:
I think he's adequate , good enough to play

Adequate. What praise. Can’t wait to get up the CBS and be on the edge of my seat for some adequacy.

Evo1883 · Jan 30, 2023

shmmeee said:
Adequate. What praise. Can’t wait to get up the CBS and be on the edge of my seat for some adequacy.

I mean it's a realistic assessment, when we have our best 11 out on the pitch allen seems to do well .. he doesn't make us worse ..we have some players who are good enough and some that are very good ..

If you want a team where no player is just adequate , then coventry city with a small wage bill isn't the team for you is it mate , but you ALREADY know this

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 30, 2023

shmmeee said:
Adequate. What praise. Can’t wait to get up the CBS and be on the edge of my seat for some adequacy.

Didn’t you agree we all need to bouncing around singing even if it is Jamie ‘The Little Hitler’ Allen on the ball?

shmmeee · Jan 30, 2023

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Didn’t you agree we all need to bouncing around singing even if it is Jamie ‘Heydrich’ Allen on the ball?

We do. But on here I can say how frustrating I find him in the team and generally a waste of a position.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jan 30, 2023

shmmeee said:
We do. But on here I can say how frustrating I find him in the team and generally a waste of a position.

Now now. That doesn’t sound very supportive.

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