Calista
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I agree, yet you casually dropped in a reference to Palmer in response to Allen's scoring stats.
I agree, yet you casually dropped in a reference to Palmer in response to Allen's scoring stats.This is nothing really to do with palmer - he will always be liked by a lot of supporters - always. Allen has had everything chucked at him for the last few weeks
I agree, yet you casually dropped in a reference to Palmer in response to Allen's scoring stats.
Tbf he did well today, we needed a goal, and he provided it, so credit where its due.Robin’s views today:
Jamie Allen’s performance in the side…
“He can knit things together when he’s a bit higher and he scores goals and contributes goals. He scored a brilliant goal against Norwich City the other week. but he creates things as well and a bit more belief.
“He finishes really well and he’s got a very good technique and he makes brilliant runs as good as anyone in the division and he found the space at the start of the second half and he found the back of the net which is what we needed to settle things down.”
It is tbf sometimes hard to avoid it, as the opposing view is often would you drop Palmer for Allen? Well, the answer from the manager is often yes! That doesn't btw mean that by definition Palmer is useless, or that there might not be times in the future when Allen is dropped for him in return!I agree, yet you casually dropped in a reference to Palmer in response to Allen's scoring stats.
I couldn't agree more, and in recent weeks the efforts to win on the internet have become more and more ludicrous, with both Palmer and Allen the subject of some pretty far-fetched nonsense. One of them can't run, and the other can only run.It is tbf sometimes hard to avoid it, as the opposing view is often would you drop Palmer for Allen? Well, the answer from the manager is often yes! That doesn't btw mean that by definition Palmer is useless, or that there might not be times in the future when Allen is dropped for him in return!
Now, this ain't a Palmer thread and you're right, Palmer has very different strengths and weaknesses to Allen, but there does seem to be a serious blind spot wrt Allen just recently. We could list all our players' weaknesses, and there is merit in that from time to time(!) but at least be fair about it when doing it.
Correct, to progress, we do need better. That’s been stated from the start, but it’s all the Allen is shit, take him off etc that’s nonsense.I think most people will give Allen credit for being a hard working team player that works his socks off to make up for his technical inabilities. He does that very well but Allen’s a lower league player that’s come along with a club that’s progressing slowly since league 2.
However I’m not going to be swung by a goal today. I’m genuinely chuffed for him but the same posts and opinions will still reappear next week or the week after. I personally don’t think he will be part of the future next season.
Anyone flip flopping is a hypocrite of the highest order.
Bar Gyokeres, and maybe Hamer (but he misplaces too many passes) we'd need a whole new team to compete in the top flight!Correct, to progress, we do need better. That’s been stated from the start, but it’s all the Allen is shit, take him off etc that’s nonsense.
He's had a couple of poor matches I think we'd be calling for most players to be rotated out at that point but I take your point.Correct, to progress, we do need better. That’s been stated from the start, but it’s all the Allen is shit, take him off etc that’s nonsense.
He's already on 2 more than any midfielder has achieved in a season since we were promoted.On for double figures in goals this season. Even if he doesn't score again, it's a perfectly respectable total for a midfielder.
I'll refer you to my opening post about what his role appears to be. However, if Norton-Cuffy is... suspect (to put it mildly!) defensively, then the need for Allen to tackle rather than hold up because of where he finds himself on the pitch relative to his wing back can change somewhat.Did really well to get into the position to score today and took the chance well. Looked a different player after too and even got some tackles in.
I'll refer you to my opening post about what his role appears to be. However, if Norton-Cuffy is... suspect (to put it mildly!) defensively, then the need for Allen to tackle rather than hold up because of where he finds himself on the pitch relative to his wing back can change somewhat.
Definitely respectable, if he stays fit there’s no reason why he shouldn’t make double figures, he’s a midfielder who loves to get forward and into the box and when the ball comes to him he knows how to finish.On for double figures in goals this season. Even if he doesn't score again, it's a perfectly respectable total for a midfielder.
Tbf two up front allowed us to move up the pitch a bit, and we had looked better last ten of first half too.I presume he wasn’t fit or was poorly as godden made such a difference and robins hardly ever changes things at 45
I think that too yesterdayIt wasn't the system that was wrong it was that Allen was struggling. If we had a more robust AM to replace him that would have been the right move..
The one thing with falling down the leagues is we got a sense of how bad things could *really* be, so that gave some credit for sticky times. Hope last season doesn't make us forget that - there were times before in the Championship when we were overly Billy Big Bollocks for no real reason.Said on the main thread but when there was loud booing he looked quite shocked.
I can understand the visceral frustration and ranting as I have done tonight on a forum. But at games I can count on one hand the times I’ve done it in the past 25 years, it’s the one guaranteed thing to stick in a player’s mind.The one thing with falling down the leagues is we got a sense of how bad things could *really* be, so that gave some credit for sticky times. Hope last season doesn't make us forget that - there were times before in the Championship when we were overly Billy Big Bollocks for no real reason.
Who? The gaffer?Said on the main thread but when there was loud booing he looked quite shocked.
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