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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 30, 2023
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Well, that's how it feels. Lets look at his rap sheet.

Can't pass
Can't tackle
Can't shoot
Not quick enough to get onto otherwise excellent passes
Mentally challenged

Half of this is nonsense.

He's had a funny run here in the Championship years. First season it was decided he was useless, and he was indeed often anonymous. That was often because we couldn't impose ourselves on games, and he's not a midfielder to take the game by the scruff of the neck. The following season it was decided around here he was good, and then this season (despite often being one of our more effective players) he's now responsible for Brexit, Covid, the cost of living crisis, and the revival of Donald Trump. It's odd because we've actually had incremental progression where he settles more.

This is by no means to suggest he's a footballing God - he has flaws like any player at this level, but he's by no means a waste of space, and has shown himself deserving of a regular place in our midfield.

The can't pass? if we like stats then the last game, where supposedly he was awful, he had the highest pass accuracy rate of the starting 11. He can pass, he often makes lovely through balls to Gyokeres in particular. What he does do however is try and increase the tempo - it's often said we look pondorous and only look better when we speed up our passing, this is true. Often, it's Allen who's trying the first time plays to get us moving. That increases the likelihood of it not looking so assured. It should also be noted his role in the team, which is clearly to keep the midfield ticking, play simply, allow Hamer to be the creative force (which, incidentally, excuses Hamer's low pass completion rate as he's trying the ambitious much of the time. it's worth noting if Allen had that percentage he'd be slaughtered). Robins himself has also noted that Allen is a good technician. Add in the corner challenge they did years ago and, while none of them excelled particularly, beyond Hamer Allen was a notable runner up in his ability to bend the ball towards goal. He *can* pass, but his role isn't given to be stood on the ball and dictate and it would be silly for it to be so, because Hamer does that bloody well.

Can't tackle? More of a case on the surface as he certainly doesn't dove in. However, it also looks obvious that's not his role. his role is to harry, be a barrier in front of the opposition player, and slow them up so the team as a whole can get into position. he does that effectively. That also means that the team is more ready to knock back opposition attacks. Defending from the front is as much why we had that great defensive record before Christmas as the role of the defenders - the reason the defenders could be in a difficult to break down block is as much because of this tactic. Without O'Hare, that's solely down to Allen, and it's a role he does well - don't look to the lack of tackling in isolation.

Can't shoot? Undoubtedly times he scuffs shots, but who doesn't? What he does have is five goals already this season. There have been a couple of bludgeoned shots charged down. It's fair to say shooting could be better, but... he has taken to scoring goals this season, and is currently at about par of what you'd expect for a midfielder.Also worth noting his role is to break the lines, run beyond the striker, which he often does but isn't picked up by our players either... or we have the ludicrous suggestion there are brilliant passes, but it's Allen's fault for not being quick enough to get onto them. Much as with us, the solid defensive line of the opposition can be difficult to break down - going beyond the forwards is something few of our players do, and even if the ball doesn't get to Allen it can stretch the opposition back line, throw them out of shape a little.

It is however true that he has been responsible for genocides in both Rwanda and Cambodia, and was also Hitler's chauffeur.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #2
Fuck off
 
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fatso

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #3
Yea fuck off.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #4
fatso said:
Yea fuck off.
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PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Fuck off
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Good considered responses it's fair to say.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #5
Long session ?
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #6
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well, that's how it feels. Lets look at his rap sheet.

Can't pass
Can't tackle
Can't shoot
Not quick enough to get onto otherwise excellent passes
Mentally challenged

Half of this is nonsense.

He's had a funny run here in the Championship years. First season it was decided he was useless, and he was indeed often anonymous. That was often because we couldn't impose ourselves on games, and he's not a midfielder to take the game by the scruff of the neck. The following season it was decided around here he was good, and then this season (despite often being one of our more effective players) he's now responsible for Brexit, Covid, the cost of living crisis, and the revival of Donald Trump. It's odd because we've actually had incremental progression where he settles more.

This is by no means to suggest he's a footballing God - he has flaws like any player at this level, but he's by no means a waste of space, and has shown himself deserving of a regular place in our midfield.

The can't pass? if we like stats then the last game, where supposedly he was awful, he had the highest pass accuracy rate of the starting 11. He can pass, he often makes lovely through balls to Gyokeres in particular. What he does do however is try and increase the tempo - it's often said we look pondorous and only look better when we speed up our passing, this is true. Often, it's Allen who's trying the first time plays to get us moving. That increases the likelihood of it not looking so assured. It should also be noted his role in the team, which is clearly to keep the midfield ticking, play simply, allow Hamer to be the creative force (which, incidentally, excuses Hamer's low pass completion rate as he's trying the ambitious much of the time. it's worth noting if Allen had that percentage he'd be slaughtered). Robins himself has also noted that Allen is a good technician. Add in the corner challenge they did years ago and, while none of them excelled particularly, beyond Hamer Allen was a notable runner up in his ability to bend the ball towards goal. He *can* pass, but his role isn't given to be stood on the ball and dictate and it would be silly for it to be so, because Hamer does that bloody well.

Can't tackle? More of a case on the surface as he certainly doesn't dove in. However, it also looks obvious that's not his role. his role is to harry, be a barrier in front of the opposition player, and slow them up so the team as a whole can get into position. he does that effectively. That also means that the team is more ready to knock back opposition attacks. Defending from the front is as much why we had that great defensive record before Christmas as the role of the defenders - the reason the defenders could be in a difficult to break down block is as much because of this tactic. Without O'Hare, that's solely down to Allen, and it's a role he does well - don't look to the lack of tackling in isolation.

Can't shoot? Undoubtedly times he scuffs shots, but who doesn't? What he does have is five goals already this season. There have been a couple of bludgeoned shots charged down. It's fair to say shooting could be better, but... he has taken to scoring goals this season, and is currently at about par of what you'd expect for a midfielder.Also worth noting his role is to break the lines, run beyond the striker, which he often does but isn't picked up by our players either... or we have the ludicrous suggestion there are brilliant passes, but it's Allen's fault for not being quick enough to get onto them. Much as with us, the solid defensive line of the opposition can be difficult to break down - going beyond the forwards is something few of our players do, and even if the ball doesn't get to Allen it can stretch the opposition back line, throw them out of shape a little.

It is however true that he has been responsible for genocides in both Rwanda and Cambodia, and was also Hitler's chauffeur.
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You forgot to say that Putin is his Uncle.
Btw agree with most of that but come on we do need someone to blame!
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #7
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well, that's how it feels. Lets look at his rap sheet.

Can't pass
Can't tackle
Can't shoot
Not quick enough to get onto otherwise excellent passes
Mentally challenged

Half of this is nonsense.

He's had a funny run here in the Championship years. First season it was decided he was useless, and he was indeed often anonymous. That was often because we couldn't impose ourselves on games, and he's not a midfielder to take the game by the scruff of the neck. The following season it was decided around here he was good, and then this season (despite often being one of our more effective players) he's now responsible for Brexit, Covid, the cost of living crisis, and the revival of Donald Trump. It's odd because we've actually had incremental progression where he settles more.

This is by no means to suggest he's a footballing God - he has flaws like any player at this level, but he's by no means a waste of space, and has shown himself deserving of a regular place in our midfield.

The can't pass? if we like stats then the last game, where supposedly he was awful, he had the highest pass accuracy rate of the starting 11. He can pass, he often makes lovely through balls to Gyokeres in particular. What he does do however is try and increase the tempo - it's often said we look pondorous and only look better when we speed up our passing, this is true. Often, it's Allen who's trying the first time plays to get us moving. That increases the likelihood of it not looking so assured. It should also be noted his role in the team, which is clearly to keep the midfield ticking, play simply, allow Hamer to be the creative force (which, incidentally, excuses Hamer's low pass completion rate as he's trying the ambitious much of the time. it's worth noting if Allen had that percentage he'd be slaughtered). Robins himself has also noted that Allen is a good technician. Add in the corner challenge they did years ago and, while none of them excelled particularly, beyond Hamer Allen was a notable runner up in his ability to bend the ball towards goal. He *can* pass, but his role isn't given to be stood on the ball and dictate and it would be silly for it to be so, because Hamer does that bloody well.

Can't tackle? More of a case on the surface as he certainly doesn't dove in. However, it also looks obvious that's not his role. his role is to harry, be a barrier in front of the opposition player, and slow them up so the team as a whole can get into position. he does that effectively. That also means that the team is more ready to knock back opposition attacks. Defending from the front is as much why we had that great defensive record before Christmas as the role of the defenders - the reason the defenders could be in a difficult to break down block is as much because of this tactic. Without O'Hare, that's solely down to Allen, and it's a role he does well - don't look to the lack of tackling in isolation.

Can't shoot? Undoubtedly times he scuffs shots, but who doesn't? What he does have is five goals already this season. There have been a couple of bludgeoned shots charged down. It's fair to say shooting could be better, but... he has taken to scoring goals this season, and is currently at about par of what you'd expect for a midfielder.Also worth noting his role is to break the lines, run beyond the striker, which he often does but isn't picked up by our players either... or we have the ludicrous suggestion there are brilliant passes, but it's Allen's fault for not being quick enough to get onto them. Much as with us, the solid defensive line of the opposition can be difficult to break down - going beyond the forwards is something few of our players do, and even if the ball doesn't get to Allen it can stretch the opposition back line, throw them out of shape a little.

It is however true that he has been responsible for genocides in both Rwanda and Cambodia, and was also Hitler's chauffeur.
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Do remember also that he is of Romanian heritage and his great great great great great great great great great grandfather was Vlad The Impala
 
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Nick

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #8
He gets all the stick now people who were shouting about Sheaf have realised he's decent.
 
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LastGarrison

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #9
Mcbean said:
Long session ?
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I reckon he’s doing dry January and has just crumbled mentally at the last hurdle.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #10
You should also add he doesn’t speak and isn’t captain material.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #11
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Fuck off
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he wasn’t really hitlers chauffeur
 

Perryccfc

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #12
Christ you must be having a slow Monday morning
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #13
Sorry all, I should just say he's shit and be done with it, not put any thought into it and instead behave like Jamie Allen, unable to string two words together.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #14
He's an honest player and the importance of his work rate to the way we play cannot be understated.

He does lack some quality in execution at times but still a solid championship squad player.

Similar to Dabo, the vitriol is underserved.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #15
Deleted member 5849 said:
Sorry all, I should just say he's shit and be done with it, not put any thought into it and instead behave like Jamie Allen, unable to string two words together.
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He once played against Hudlin and couldn’t even beat him in the air
 
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fatso

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #16
Deleted member 5849 said:
Good considered responses it's fair to say.
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A lot more considered than that shite you started!
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #17
Deleted member 5849 said:
Sorry all, I should just say he's shit and be done with it, not put any thought into it and instead behave like Jamie Allen, unable to string two words together.
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This is SBT why would you put any thought into anything, just go with the flow and get those likes up.
 
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Nick

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #18
fatso said:
A lot more considered than that shite you started!
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Which bits do you disagree with?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #19
fernandopartridge said:
He's an honest player and the importance of his work rate to the way we play cannot be understated.
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Even more so without O'Hare in the team. I know O'Hare's a higher level (his ability to twist and turn and run with the ball is something Allen just doesn't have), but some of the same issues (underhit passes etc) are seen with O'Hare and, again, it's as much because of the tempo he plays at as anything else.
 
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fatso

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #20
Deleted member 5849 said:
Sorry all, I should just say he's shit and be done with it, not put any thought into it and instead behave like Jamie Allen, unable to string two words together.
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Or you could be honest and factually accurate and just say he's league 1 level at best.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #21
fatso said:
A lot more considered than that shite you started!
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Not keen on a mass debate I see, rather do it all by yourself?
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #22
fatso said:
Or you could be honest and factually accurate and just say he's league 1 level at best.
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“league 1 at best” lol
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #23
fatso said:
Or you could be honest and factually accurate and just say he's league 1 level at best.
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Facts please?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #24
Grendel said:
“league 1 at best” lol
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Allen's got more Championship experience than just about the entire team, I think.
 

fatso

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #25
Nick said:
Which bits do you disagree with?
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Mainly the bit when it's suggested that he isn't a waste of space.

I've been consistent in that, throughout his time here, he was in the bomb squad at one time, and imo should of stayed there.
He's the only consistent choice that MR picks that absolutely baffles me.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #26
fatso said:
Mainly the bit when it's suggested that he isn't a waste of space.
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At least you agree that he's culpable for horrendous slaughter across whole nations. Got to take the small wins.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #27
fatso said:
Mainly the bit when it's suggested that he isn't a waste of space.

I've been consistent in that, throughout his time here, he was in the bomb squad at one time, and imo should of stayed there.
He's the only consistent choice that MR picks that absolutely baffles me.
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When you’ve got one midfielder whose like the Prince Regent and needs runners to do his work for him and another not exactly blessed with speed and quick movement it’s not that surprising
 

fatso

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #28
Deleted member 5849 said:
Allen's got more Championship experience than just about the entire team, I think.
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Yep, and he's still shite. Fucking baffling.
He's just blocking the path for some of our other players.
Hopefully with players coming back to fitness, we will see competition for his place increase. Godden coming back may allow Palmer to drop a bit deeper and replace Allen.
Or maybe Eccles (if he can stay fit) can stake a claim for starting.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #29
fatso said:
Yep, and he's still shite. Fucking baffling.
He's just blocking the path for some of our other players.
Hopefully with players coming back to fitness, we will see competition for his place increase. Godden coming back may allow Palmer to drop a bit deeper and replace Allen.
Or maybe Eccles (if he can stay fit) can stake a claim for starting.
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Palmer doing Allen’s running - I hope there’s a oxygen tank available
 
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fatso

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  • Jan 30, 2023
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Deleted member 5849 said:
At least you agree that he's culpable for horrendous slaughter across whole nations. Got to take the small wins
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I'd just be happy if he impacted a game of football occasionally.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #31
fatso said:
I'd just be happy if he impacted a game of football occasionally.
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5 goals and 2 assists?
 

fatso

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #32
Grendel said:
Palmer doing Allen’s running - I hope there’s a oxygen tank available
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If running is what he's in there for, maybe we should just get a professional runner.
I though footballers were supposed to be able to play a bit.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #33
Nick said:
He gets all the stick now people who were shouting about Sheaf have realised he's decent.
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You say that - I’ve always been a sheaf fan. But I counted on at least 3 occasions in the first half he played suicide passes to Allen who took the brunt from the fans for losing the ball
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #34
fatso said:
If running is what he's in there for, maybe we should just get a professional runner.
I though footballers were supposed to be able to play a bit.
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I agree Palmer would excel at walking football but oddly enough…
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 30, 2023
  • #35
Grendel said:
“league 1 at best” lol
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To steal a phrase, who do you think will be in for him in the summer?
 
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