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Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 11, 2017
  • #246
If Collins does sign we would have a very potent front line. Him, Bevon, Thomas, McNulty and Kwame will all get 10+ goals at that level.
 
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steve82

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  • Jun 11, 2017
  • #247
ccfcway said:
signing Collins will still be a gamble. Just because he has a track record at league two, doesn't mean he will be a success with us.

Remember, Russell Slade had a track record in League One !
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Every signing is a gamble if he's free or 60 million... it becomes a calculated gamble.

He's done it at nearly every club in terms of goals but he brings more than goals to the team in terms of his physical presence that opens up teams for McNulty or hopefully George Thomas.

Think managers are different to players as they sometimes need the personnel to execute there game plans. Slade was possibly a target man away to "possibly" getting some results, we don't want to be a target man/physical player or a 15+ plus striker away from a play off place.

Like McNulty is reported to favour playing with a big man doing the graft opening up space to exploit.



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Cavan O'Doherty

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  • Jun 11, 2017
  • #248
Liquid Gold said:
If Collins does sign we would have a very potent front line. Him, Bevon, Thomas, McNulty and Kwame will all get 10+ goals at that level.
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Him, McNulty and Thomas would be one of if not the best attacking line up in the league. It's just whether we will be able to hang onto the likes of Thomas and Beavon if Collins signs. If not then Collins and McNulty would still be a formidable strike force
 

skybluepm2

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  • Jun 11, 2017
  • #249
Skybluefaz said:
I'm talking about the Collins deal. He's hopeful and they are trying to do the deal. I wouldn't put bullshit on here.
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Heard something similar, speaking to a city fan yesterday afternoon who was with a lad who allegedly knows Collins. Apparently terms agreed with the player and he's keen yet the clubs are haggling over a fee.

Personally I wouldn't have thought that we'd be able to agree terms or speak to a player unless the fee had been alread agreed. Only passing on what I've heard but sounded genuine. Would be a fantastic signing but can't see it myself.
 
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Cavan O'Doherty

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  • Jun 11, 2017
  • #250
skybluepm2 said:
Heard something similar, speaking to a city fan yesterday afternoon who was with a lad who allegedly knows Collins. Apparently terms agreed with the player and he's keen yet the clubs are haggling over a fee.

Personally I wouldn't have thought that we'd be able to agree terms or speak to a player unless the fee had been alread agreed. Only passing on what I've heard but sounded genuine. Would be a fantastic signing but can't see it myself.
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If Collins really wants to come and we are interested, there's not much Crawley can do except get the best possible fee or they risk having a player who's thrown his toys out the pram and doesn't want to play for them. It's the fee that'll be the stumbling block but if they can get over that then I think it will happen
 
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better days

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  • Jun 11, 2017
  • #251
Cavan O'Doherty said:
If Collins really wants to come and we are interested, there's not much Crawley can do except get the best possible fee or they risk having a player who's thrown his toys out the pram and doesn't want to play for them. It's the fee that'll be the stumbling block but if they can get over that then I think it will happen
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It might not just be how much the fee is there will probably be negotiations over payment schedule, additional payments in the event of promotion and a share of any subsequent transfer fee if he's sold on
 

Cavan O'Doherty

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  • Jun 11, 2017
  • #252
better days said:
It might not just be how much the fee is there will probably be negotiations over payment schedule, additional payments in the event of promotion and a share of any subsequent transfer fee if he's sold on
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I don't think that will be too much of an issue. Mind you this is us we are talking about!
 

Astute

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  • Jun 11, 2017
  • #253
better days said:
It might not just be how much the fee is there will probably be negotiations over payment schedule, additional payments in the event of promotion and a share of any subsequent transfer fee if he's sold on
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I heard that we offered them the wrong flavoured bag of crisps for him.
 

Otis

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  • Jun 11, 2017
  • #254
Astute said:
I heard that we offered them the wrong flavoured bag of crisps for him.
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Ham and sour grape?
 
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sw88

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  • Jun 11, 2017
  • #255
skybluepm2 said:
Heard something similar, speaking to a city fan yesterday afternoon who was with a lad who allegedly knows Collins. Apparently terms agreed with the player and he's keen yet the clubs are haggling over a fee.

Personally I wouldn't have thought that we'd be able to agree terms or speak to a player unless the fee had been alread agreed. Only passing on what I've heard but sounded genuine. Would be a fantastic signing but can't see it myself.
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Would never be able to happen on football manager
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #256
As it stands Collins will be joining Luton. Widdrington has told Crawley his budget and unless that changes it isn't enough to match lutons offer. Collins wants to come here and city have offered him a good enough wage deal. We offered £150k. Hopefully we manage to get some more from somewhere even that means Willis or harries going. I think he could be the difference between mid table and play offs personally. For me the main factor is that he is desperate to play for us unlike the Andre wrights of this world.
 
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matesx

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #257
if the player doesn't want to go to Luton then surely he wont go?

just dig your heels in James!
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #258
matesx said:
if the player doesn't want to go to Luton then surely he wont go?

just dig your heels in James!
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You would think if he rejects Luton then it will give Crawley no choice but to say yes to us. He has told his agent that he wants to come here
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #259
All depends if Crawley can afford to say to Collins ok, you are going to see out your contract in the reserves.
 

steve82

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #260
ccfchoi87 said:
As it stands Collins will be joining Luton. Widdrington has told Crawley his budget and unless that changes it isn't enough to match lutons offer. Collins wants to come here and city have offered him a good enough wage deal. We offered £150k. Hopefully we manage to get some more from somewhere even that means Willis or harries going. I think he could be the difference between mid table and play offs personally. For me the main factor is that he is desperate to play for us unlike the Andre wrights of this world.
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Where did you hear this all from then, quite a bit of info there....
Not saying your right or wrong by the way just interested.



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ccfchoi87

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #261
steve82 said:
Where did you hear this all from then, quite a bit of info there....
Not saying your right or wrong by the way just interested.



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As usual I'm not going to say. But as someone as mentioned before, the horses mouth
 
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steve82

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #262
ccfchoi87 said:
As usual I'm not going to say. But as someone as mentioned before, the horses mouth
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Ok... so your saying you heard it from James then?


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ccfchoi87

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #263
steve82 said:
Ok... so your saying you heard it from James then?


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Maybe or maybe someone else mentioned in the post
 

steve82

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #264
ccfchoi87 said:
Maybe or maybe someone else mentioned in the post
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Ok, I don't wanna blow your cover and any information is good in a preseason that's gone a little quiet but earlier in the thread you were the one asking if anyone knew him and had any gossip?

ccfchoi87 said:
Someone must know him or his family and can find out some gossip
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Have you recently found a long lost friend who knows James or a horse in a field that wanted to whisper a secret conversation he'd overheard while munching on a carrot?



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Cavan O'Doherty

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #265
ccfchoi87 said:
As usual I'm not going to say. But as someone as mentioned before, the horses mouth
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This horse seems to have 2 mouths at the moment. One saying 'a deal done soon hopefully' and one saying 'we can't match their offer'. Did this horse have a birth defect?
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #266
steve82 said:
Ok, I don't wanna blow your cover and any information is good in a preseason that's gone a little quiet but earlier in the thread you were the one asking if anyone knew him and had any gossip?



Have you recently found a long lost friend who knows James or a horse in a field that wanted to whisper a secret conversation he'd overheard while munching on a carrot?



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Haha turns out someone did know his family and that someone was in my family!
 
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Cavan O'Doherty

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #267
ccfchoi87 said:
Haha turns out someone did know his family and that someone was in my family!
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Surely Collins could force a move through if he really wanted. Here's hoping!
 

covcity4life

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #268
hopefully he will sign soon. think we need a different option upfront to go alongside what we already have
 
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Cavan O'Doherty

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #269
ccfchoi87 said:
Haha turns out someone did know his family and that someone was in my family!
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Reckon deals still on?
 

matesx

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #270
If he signs we are top 6 next season
 

steve82

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #271
ccfchoi87 said:
Haha turns out someone did know his family and that someone was in my family!
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Right.... well keep us all informed the best you can then!





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Cavan O'Doherty

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #272
matesx said:
If he signs we are top 6 next season
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We will definitely be challenging for the play offs at least.
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #273
Cavan O'Doherty said:
Reckon deals still on?
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Very much so
 

Cavan O'Doherty

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #274
ccfchoi87 said:
Very much so
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Hopefully it's concluded sooner rather than later, as the longer it goes on the less chance we have of signing him IMO
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #275
lines up with what I heard.
 

Cavan O'Doherty

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #276
To me it sounds like there might be a bit of a standstill at the moment. Surely we could boost the supposed 150k to 175k to try and sweeten the deal a bit. Would be disappointing if he goes to Luton.
 

sw88

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #277
Why would anyone want To go to Luton?
 
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Cavan O'Doherty

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #278
sw88 said:
Why would anyone want To go to Luton?
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Good question. For the brass I suppose(compared to us)
 
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westcountry_skyblue

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #279
Sisu don't do speculate to accumulate do they,Shows how far we have fallen if we cant offer £200,000.
Oh the days of a £6m player!!
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 12, 2017
  • #280
westcountry_skyblue said:
Sisu don't do speculate to accumulate do they,Shows how far we have fallen if we cant offer £200,000.
Oh the days of a £6m player!!
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No wonder you vote Tory. The glory days of spending £6m of somebody else's money with no real prospect of paying it back.

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