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Jake Bidwell (vs Hull) (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter ATB81
  • Start date Aug 28, 2022
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ATB81

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #1
Jake Bidwell had a steadier game against Millwall maybe, and although this isn't a popular thing of 'let's just slate bidwell because he's johnny one dimensional'.... in the wake of Simon Moore getting the criticism yesterday, I don't understand how Bidwell has gone under the radar. Aside from their second goal, where Jamie Allen tried to close the cross down I believe, Jake Bidwell has been caught in no mans land for their first goal and didnt even put his foot in for their third. He is not closing down the wide men to stop crosses at source, he doesnt put his foot in, he offers nothing going forward (which isn't a massive issue as were scoring at the moment). Defensively I see him as the biggest issue, and did do when Simon Moore got criticised at Sunderland. Poor decision making from Moore I get that, and the Millwall one was a howler.... but at the moment for me Bidwell is getting away scott free. We obviously can't do much about it as have no funds to bring in someone in the left back position, and have centre half as an issue to fill now. But with Bidwell in the side, we will always concede unless he drastically improves defensively and positionally, or at the very least we will always be exposed to crosses in the box from out wide right on his side. Just a thought in the midst of the Simon Moore bashing.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #2
Hi Simon, how are you?
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #3
Hi Tayo. Your time will come... be patient.
 
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ATB81

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #4
Tommo1993 said:
Hi Simon, how are you?
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Tommo I'm fed up... if honest. It's this sky blue lot....
 

pusbccfc

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #5
We've just come to expect low standards from Bidwell.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #6
ATB81 said:
Tommo I'm fed up... if honest. It's this sky blue lot....
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Its okay Simon maybe if you remember what you’re payed to do then we wouldn’t get on your back
 

stupot07

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #7
Bidwell played well yesterday. Was probably the pick of our back 5.

Just watched the highlighted back. You're talking nonsense.

The first he has has been forced to come inside to pick up the unmarked man who is centre of goal for the cut back. He has to tuck in as Allen and Sheaf have been attracted to the ball. The fullback has come out of nowhere, really Palmer or one of the strikers should be tracking him.



The third, he is battling with their player and putting his foot in but been left 2v1, Panzo has to come across.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #8
ATB81 said:
Jake Bidwell had a steadier game against Millwall maybe, and although this isn't a popular thing of 'let's just slate bidwell because he's johnny one dimensional'.... in the wake of Simon Moore getting the criticism yesterday, I don't understand how Bidwell has gone under the radar. Aside from their second goal, where Jamie Allen tried to close the cross down I believe, Jake Bidwell has been caught in no mans land for their first goal and didnt even put his foot in for their third. He is not closing down the wide men to stop crosses at source, he doesnt put his foot in, he offers nothing going forward (which isn't a massive issue as were scoring at the moment). Defensively I see him as the biggest issue, and did do when Simon Moore got criticised at Sunderland. Poor decision making from Moore I get that, and the Millwall one was a howler.... but at the moment for me Bidwell is getting away scott free. We obviously can't do much about it as have no funds to bring in someone in the left back position, and have centre half as an issue to fill now. But with Bidwell in the side, we will always concede unless he drastically improves defensively and positionally, or at the very least we will always be exposed to crosses in the box from out wide right on his side. Just a thought in the midst of the Simon Moore bashing.
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Did notice that yesterday, would like to see the goal back to see if there was a valid reason for Bidwell being out of position, (I know theresa link on here but I cant bring my self to watch it yet), but as you say, he was in no man's land.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #9
clint van damme said:
Did notice that yesterday, would like to see the goal back to see if there was a valid reason for Bidwell being out of position, (I know theresa link on here but I cant bring my self to watch it yet), but as you say, he was in no man's land.
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Theresa Link sounds alright.

I’m sorry Clint.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #10
clint van damme said:
Did notice that yesterday, would like to see the goal back to see if there was a valid reason for Bidwell being out of position, (I know theresa link on here but I cant bring my self to watch it yet), but as you say, he was in no man's land.
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see the post above, he is covering the unmarked player
 
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clint van damme

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #11
David O'Day said:
see the post above, he is covering the unmarked player
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Fuck knows how I didn't see that post, but yeah, he's been let down on both occasions.
 
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Dec-ccfc

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #12
Bidwell has been our best defensive player so far this season. He doesn’t set the world on fire going forward but is slowly finding his feet and balancing the risk of going forward and when to sense danger.

With a back 3 we shouldn’t be conceding anywhere near as much as we do. Fadz has been good butthis should be his last season as a starter and rose just has not kicked on since we left league 1.
 
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #13
Why is there another thread on Bidwell when Dabo was far worse yesterday?
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #14
skyblueelephant76 said:
Why is there another thread on Bidwell when Dabo was far worse yesterday?
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I was going to say Dabo had a stinker
 
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Briles

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #15
I thought yesterday was one of his better games tbh
 

stevefloyd

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #16
Its ok Man City have conceded 8 in 3 games too
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #17
stevefloyd said:
Its ok Man City have conceded 8 in 3 games too
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Yeah Ederson Lol.
 

Frostie

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #18
Briles said:
I thought yesterday was one of his better games tbh
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He's had a solid start to the season but his card is already marked with some sadly.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #19
Bidwell is already the new boo boy though isn't he? He was decent yesterday and has been when he has played.

Has been putting dangerous crosses in too.
 
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procdoc

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  • Aug 28, 2022
  • #20
Wing backs will be out of position from time to time due to the nature of their position. That is why either the centre half or one of the DM’s need to cover the space they leave when they go forward
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Aug 29, 2022
  • #21
Dec-ccfc said:
Bidwell has been our best defensive player so far this season. He doesn’t set the world on fire going forward but is slowly finding his feet and balancing the risk of going forward and when to sense danger.

With a back 3 we shouldn’t be conceding anywhere near as much as we do. Fadz has been good butthis should be his last season as a starter and rose just has not kicked on since we left league 1.
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Fadz seems to have got off relatively lightly too. With the disappointing news about Hyam it was imperative that Fadz put on a dominating performance. Unfortunately he was bullied and outmuscled for the 2nd and 3rd goals, which is something we have not come to expect from him.
 
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Deleted member 2477

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  • Aug 29, 2022
  • #22
ATB81 said:
Jake Bidwell had a steadier game against Millwall maybe, and although this isn't a popular thing of 'let's just slate bidwell because he's johnny one dimensional'.... in the wake of Simon Moore getting the criticism yesterday, I don't understand how Bidwell has gone under the radar. Aside from their second goal, where Jamie Allen tried to close the cross down I believe, Jake Bidwell has been caught in no mans land for their first goal and didnt even put his foot in for their third. He is not closing down the wide men to stop crosses at source, he doesnt put his foot in, he offers nothing going forward (which isn't a massive issue as were scoring at the moment). Defensively I see him as the biggest issue, and did do when Simon Moore got criticised at Sunderland. Poor decision making from Moore I get that, and the Millwall one was a howler.... but at the moment for me Bidwell is getting away scott free. We obviously can't do much about it as have no funds to bring in someone in the left back position, and have centre half as an issue to fill now. But with Bidwell in the side, we will always concede unless he drastically improves defensively and positionally, or at the very least we will always be exposed to crosses in the box from out wide right on his side. Just a thought in the midst of the Simon Moore bashing.
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Ah look a nother new member whos first post is to slate a player.
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 29, 2022
  • #23
We were done very easily 3 times with school boy 1/2's on that left because jake decided to lunge in rather than close down and jockey .. I like him too , but it did happen
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Aug 29, 2022
  • #24
Bidwell is average, and he is pretty consistent as well. In other words he is absolutely fine.

I have far more questions of Dabo, who I don't think is up to this level at all. He is a bit of a liability at moments, doesn't defensively do the basics very well either. He is also poor going forward. He might look ok at times knocking the ball past someone, but for a wingback his contributions to goals are pretty much nil. The stats are shocking and I think it is quite badly overlooked.
 

rob9872

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  • Aug 29, 2022
  • #25
Fadz pace is more of an issue. I'd prefer Bodwell as LCB of 3 with Panzo middle and Rose RCB.
 
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