It's Birmingham for the JR (1 Viewer)

dongonzalos

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New protest venue and date?

Easy to get to

Does not involve Northampton or the Ricoh

All relevant parties who we want to see the protest and the media would be present in one place at a set time?
 
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dongonzalos

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Were you at the last one?

Same judge for the Higgs proceedings.

I felt the judge would not accept lies or propaganda. He would slice through the rubbish.

He very quickly came to a clear, rational and fair decision accepted by all
 

Grendel

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They did not win anything. The result was claim not upheld, counter claim dismissed after a short time.
No damages/costs payable by either party.

So are you saying Higgs were right to bring an action that ultimately they were ruled against and that SISU owed them no money? Really think of the legal costs and think of the children.

Nice to see you leaping in with both feet though.

I wish sisu hadn't lodged the counter claim - which was clearly just a strategy - as then you'd really have nowhere to go with this would you?
 

dongonzalos

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So are you saying Higgs were right to bring an action that ultimately they were ruled against and that SISU owed them no money? Really think of the legal costs and think of the children.

Nice to see you leaping in with both feet though.

I wish sisu hadn't lodged the counter claim - which was clearly just a strategy - as then you'd really have nowhere to go with this would you?

What happens when a charity seeks legal advice about a debt owed?

Can they ignore the advice?
 

Nick

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Same judge for the Higgs proceedings.

I felt the judge would not accept lies or propaganda. He would slice through the rubbish.

He very quickly came to a clear, rational and fair decision accepted by all

So you were there? Interesting.
 

Nick

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What happens when a charity seeks legal advice about a debt owed?

Can they ignore the advice?

What I don't get with this, do the same people advise AND represent? ie couldn't a lawyer advise them to take it to court, after all they are getting paid silly money for being in court.
 

James Smith

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why? you want another sisu win? surprising.

Ah you mean Mrs Justice Thirlwall who granted the JR? I would hope that the judge whoever they are, will look at the facts and hear evidence before making a decision. The fact that a JR is granted doesn't imply wrong doing by the defendants, that's what a JR is there to determine.
 

duffer

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What happens when a charity seeks legal advice about a debt owed?

Can they ignore the advice?

It's an utterly fatuous argument this 'Higgs didn't win so they shouldn't have brought the case' one.

Given it's also made by someone who openly admits he couldn't care less if the Higgs or CCC lose money as long as SISU get the stadium, I'd just ignore it mate. It's what I do. :)
 

wingy

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The June 10 judicial review is likely to see the council represented by James Goudie QC, while Rhodri Thompson is understood to be due to present Sisu’s legal argument after he represented the club’s owners during the latest hearing.


Thought Mike O'brien had said he was going to defend the CCC .

what's this guys CV like?
 

wingy

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[h=2]BIOGRAPHY[/h]"James is simply top drawer; he is charming, easy-going, hugely intelligent and massively capable". "He is very good at tailoring his advice to the clients' requirements. He's everything you want from counsel". "One of the gurus of public law work, he has a tremendous understanding of the subject and is tremendous to work with". "He is very knowledgeable, particularly when it comes to public sector/local authority issues". "Excellent"."Very experienced and measured". "Wears his eminence in the law lightly". "Lacks pretension". "Impressive advocate". "Knowledgeable and straightforward in the advice he gives". "An encyclopaedic knowledge of local government law".
These are just some of the accolades for James by Chambers & Partners.
The Legal 500 is to like effect. “an impressive ability to swiftly assimilate vast quantities of information, and to get to grips with the underlying issues”. “a fluent and very solid advocate who dismantles opposing arguments point by point”, “a real heavyweight in this area”, “real presence in court”, “a strong communicator, with no
 

James Smith

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counter claim was a bonus sisu went for

the main claim was brought forward by higgs and they lost.

Expensive bonus to get thrown out then given they each paid their own costs and for at least the first day (when the counterclaim was heard) Sisu had 8 on their legal team.
 

dongonzalos

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So you were there? Interesting.

Sorry thought you asking if I was there, as in to say how can I say I want the same judge if I wasn't there. So I was explaining what i liked about him to quantify my comment.

I wasn't there, but I could see why that would be intriguing if I was.
 

dongonzalos

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Expensive bonus to get thrown out then given they each paid their own costs and for at least the first day (when the counterclaim was heard) Sisu had 8 on their legal team.

It costs SISU a lot more to do their counter claim.

I don't think the counter was as some say just to get documents in the public domain.

I believe it was to force the charity to back down
 

Nick

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Sorry thought you asking if I was there, as in to say how can I say I want the same judge if I wasn't there. So I was explaining what i liked about him to quantify my comment.

I wasn't there, but I could see why that would be intriguing if I was.

Ahh I thought you said you were. Sorry.

Yes, I'd rather a no nonsense down the line judge.
 

dongonzalos

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Ah you mean Mrs Justice Thirlwall who granted the JR? I would hope that the judge whoever they are, will look at the facts and hear evidence before making a decision. The fact that a JR is granted doesn't imply wrong doing by the defendants, that's what a JR is there to determine.

No I mean Mr Justice Leggatt
 

dongonzalos

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Ahh I thought you said you were. Sorry.

Yes, I'd rather a no nonsense down the line judge.

He definitely gave the impression he was, I was impressed at how quickly he seemed to grasp it all, disseminate it. Break it down to what was relevant what was bluster. Then from what was relevant deduce a speedy hypothesis. Each party accepted it and all seemed a bit reluctant to challenge him.
 

James Smith

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No I mean Mr Justice Leggatt

Sorry my post was referring to Sisu winning their appeal to get a JR and the judge who granted it. Higgs case was a 'nil all draw'.
 

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