It must be time (1 Viewer)

ArabianNights · Mar 22, 2014

To start afresh, the FA have washed there hand of us, SISU are stubbornly carrying on regardless and support is ebbing away.

It must be possible to get as many of us supporters together and start something new in the city of Coventry??

I am willing to put my name down and build a new sky blue dream without debt, and lies. A new history.

bigfatronssba · Mar 22, 2014

Too late for next season. The time has now passed for another year.

sw88 · Mar 22, 2014

Could anyone really say hand on heart they could change club?

I know I couldn't. No matter what on field / off field problems occur

Sutty · Mar 22, 2014

sw88 said:
Could anyone really say hand on heart they could change club?

I know I couldn't. No matter what on field / off field problems occur

Same here. Not until CCFC no longer existed in any form.

thaiskyblue · Mar 22, 2014

I agree but that day is coming , people have to see that.

bigfatronssba · Mar 22, 2014

sw88 said:
Could anyone really say hand on heart they could change club?

I know I couldn't. No matter what on field / off field problems occur

It wouldn't be changing clubs for me. It would simply be CCFC in a lower league.

I struggle to think of that abomination masquerading as CCFC in Northampton as my club anymore anyway.

jacko63 · Mar 22, 2014

That's the point is it our club they move to Northampton and they say a new stadium outside of cov it does not feel like our club anymore

RFC · Mar 22, 2014

sw88 said:
Could anyone really say hand on heart they could change club?

I know I couldn't. No matter what on field / off field problems occur

Never EVER, once a Coventry City supporter always a CCFC SUPPORTER.

Originally the 'Bantams' but now thanks to DR & JH, the Sky Blues!

Stop moaning and belly aching and keep the faith.

PUSB PUSB PUSB PUSB PUSB!

bigfatronssba · Mar 22, 2014

RFC said:
Never EVER, once a Coventry City supporter always a CCFC SUPPORTER.

Originally the 'Bantams' but now thanks to DR & JH, the Sky Blues!

Stop moaning and belly aching and keep the faith.

PUSB PUSB PUSB PUSB PUSB!

Can I just ask, why do you support COVENTRY City?

ArabianNights · Mar 22, 2014

Its not bellyaching its the truth, we need to do something now, or just roll over and accept something we all love fading away.

letsallsingtogether · Mar 22, 2014

Correct but up till now always in Coventry.

RFC said:
Never EVER, once a Coventry City supporter always a CCFC SUPPORTER.

Originally the 'Bantams' but now thanks to DR & JH, the Sky Blues!

Stop moaning and belly aching and keep the faith.

PUSB PUSB PUSB PUSB PUSB!

shmmeee · Mar 22, 2014

RFC said:
Never EVER, once a Coventry City supporter always a CCFC SUPPORTER.

Originally the 'Bantams' but now thanks to DR & JH, the Sky Blues!

Stop moaning and belly aching and keep the faith.

PUSB PUSB PUSB PUSB PUSB!

So you'd be happy to support Cardiff?

letsallsingtogether · Mar 22, 2014

Your wasting your time on here me old mate you will only get fucked by the Anti CCC Anti ACL, sisu have done everything by the book brigade.

ArabianNights said:
Its not bellyaching its the truth, we need to do something now, or just roll over and accept something we all love fading away.

shmmeee · Mar 22, 2014

ArabianNights said:
Its not bellyaching its the truth, we need to do something now, or just roll over and accept something we all love fading away.

They've been very clever in the way they've done this to put uncertainty and doubt at the heart of everything they do. No clarity, no consistency of communication, all designed to stop any effective opposition or alternative.

I, like most I think, have too much invested in CCFC in it's current form to give up after a season. There's still a bit of me that hopes this will all be over after the JR. I imagine if it's as you were next year then the time will have come. As others have said, it's too late to enter a new team now anyway, but if we're there at the start of next season then it's the right time to start planning and building support IMO.

stupot07 · Mar 22, 2014

sw88 said:
Could anyone really say hand on heart they could change club?

I know I couldn't. No matter what on field / off field problems occur

Same here, as hard that the current situation is, I couldn't do it.

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ArabianNights · Mar 22, 2014

RIP Coventry City then if that is the case!!

Grendel · Mar 22, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
Can I just ask, why do you support COVENTRY City?

I support the team that I have followed for over 40 years. Owners come and go and adversity happens. Loyalty is persevering in adversity.

Tonight you think the club is an abomination. In the past you have said if they get relegated you don't care.

Why are you still here?

shmmeee · Mar 22, 2014

stupot07 said:
Same here, as hard that the current situation is, I couldn't do it.

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Is it changing club though? Did AFC fans change club?

Even you have to admit there's a point where it's no longer our club. I admit that point isn't now, but if we are still there in 4 years with no plans for a stadium, are they still a Coventry team? Are they still our club?

I have no answers, just saying that it's not as cut and dried as you and RFC make out.

ArabianNights · Mar 22, 2014

But we all could, we have accountants on here, people who run companies that would sponsor the team, I am pissed off with doing nothing and accepting the whole mess!!

skybluetony176 · Mar 22, 2014

RFC said:
Never EVER, once a Coventry City supporter always a CCFC SUPPORTER.

Originally the 'Bantams' but now thanks to DR & JH, the Sky Blues!

Stop moaning and belly aching and keep the faith.

PUSB PUSB PUSB PUSB PUSB!

Keep the faith in what Mark? No one tells the fans what's really happening. It's hard to keep faith in an invisible dream.

stupot07 · Mar 22, 2014

shmmeee said:
Is it changing club though? Did AFC fans change club?

Even you have to admit there's a point where it's no longer our club. I admit that point isn't now, but if we are still there in 4 years with no plans for a stadium, are they still a Coventry team? Are they still our club?

I have no answers, just saying that it's not as cut and dried as you and RFC make out.

No it's not cut and dry, but AFC Wimbledon was set up after the FA and FL had confirmed there permanent relocation to Milton Keynes. That's a very absolute reason.

To me until it's confirmed that ccfc moves permanently away from the conurbation, or ceases to exist its a different club with a different name,badge,training grounds, set of players, academy, etc.

If in 4 years there was no plan to return or no new ground on the horizon then I may start to feel differently or may just give up on football all together. I don't think we will get to that point, but certainly not even 1 year of a temporary move is too soon.

For me to set up a Phoenix too soon will alienate large portions of the fan base. This needs support of at least 75% of the fan base to be a sustainable goer.

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stupot07 · Mar 22, 2014

ArabianNights said:
But we all could, we have accountants on here, people who run companies that would sponsor the team, I am pissed off with doing nothing and accepting the whole mess!!

You're not boycotting? You did say you're doing nothing....

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shmmeee · Mar 22, 2014

ArabianNights said:
But we all could, we have accountants on here, people who run companies that would sponsor the team, I am pissed off with doing nothing and accepting the whole mess!!

There are people working on it to be fair (a couple on here said they were doing something) but there's no clear consensus and the last thing anyone wants is another split in the fanbase.

Like I say, I think next season that will change and you'll see a majority willing to back something new, but right now I don't think it's politically viable.

letsallsingtogether · Mar 22, 2014

That's not what our owners have taught us.
Be rude don't answer questions and treat everyone like there shit.

RFC said:
Please try to be polite and ..........
GOD HELP US!

shmmeee · Mar 22, 2014

stupot07 said:
No it's not cut and dry, but AFC Wimbledon was set up after the FA and FL had confirmed there permanent relocation to Milton Keynes. That's a very absolute reason.

To me until it's confirmed that ccfc moves permanently away from the conurbation, or ceases to exist its a different club with a different name,badge,training grounds, set of players, academy, etc.

If in 4 years there was no plan to return or no new ground on the horizon then I may start to feel differently or may just give up on football all together. I don't think we will get to that point, but certainly not even 1 year of a temporary move is too soon.

For me to set up a Phoenix too soon will alienate large portions of the fan base. This needs support of at least 75% of the fan base to be a sustainable goer.

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That's cool and everyone will have their own tipping point. For some that point has already come, that number will only grow as time goes on.

Simply saying "You don't turn your back" is disingenuous as you just admitted that actually, at some point, you do.

dongonzalos · Mar 22, 2014

RFC said:
Never EVER, once a Coventry City supporter always a CCFC SUPPORTER.

Originally the 'Bantams' but now thanks to DR & JH, the Sky Blues!

Stop moaning and belly aching and keep the faith.

PUSB PUSB PUSB PUSB PUSB!

And with that you will hear no more .....

thaiskyblue · Mar 22, 2014

Grendel said:
I support the team that I have followed for over 40 years. Owners come and go and adversity happens. Loyalty is persevering in adversity.

Tonight you think the club is an abomination. In the past you have said if they get relegated you don't care.

Why are you still here?

this is nothing to do with relegation or losing games, your intelligent enough to know that, stop winding people up .

skybluetony176 · Mar 22, 2014

stupot07 said:
No it's not cut and dry, but AFC Wimbledon was set up after the FA and FL had confirmed there permanent relocation to Milton Keynes. That's a very absolute reason.

To me until it's confirmed that ccfc moves permanently away from the conurbation, or ceases to exist its a different club with a different name,badge,training grounds, set of players, academy, etc.

If in 4 years there was no plan to return or no new ground on the horizon then I may start to feel differently or may just give up on football all together. I don't think we will get to that point, but certainly not even 1 year of a temporary move is too soon.

For me to set up a Phoenix too soon will alienate large portions of the fan base. This needs support of at least 75% of the fan base to be a sustainable goer.

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Do you not think that the construction of a phoenix club could call Sisu's and FL/FA's bluff?

Or do you think we should just wait until these parties have officially killed the club before we look at this option?

dongonzalos · Mar 22, 2014

Grendel said:
I support the team that I have followed for over 40 years. Owners come and go and adversity happens. Loyalty is persevering in adversity.

Tonight you think the club is an abomination. In the past you have said if they get relegated you don't care.

Why are you still here?

I thought RFC was asked that question?

letsallsingtogether · Mar 22, 2014

It will be too late then to do anything...

skybluetony176 said:
Do you not think that the construction of a phoenix club could call Sisu's and FL/FA's bluff?

Or do you think we should just wait until these parties have officially killed the club before we look at this option?

bigfatronssba · Mar 22, 2014

Grendel said:
I support the team that I have followed for over 40 years. Owners come and go and adversity happens. Loyalty is persevering in adversity.

Tonight you think the club is an abomination. In the past you have said if they get relegated you don't care.

Why are you still here?

I don't have to justify my attendance on these boards to someone like you.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Mar 22, 2014

letsallsingtogether said:
Krankie Is it Sunday yet?

Starting early this week Chuckle

stupot07 · Mar 22, 2014

skybluetony176 said:
Do you not think that the construction of a phoenix club could call Sisu's and FL/FA's bluff?

Or do you think we should just wait until these parties have officially killed the club before we look at this option?

No I don't think it would call sisu or the FA's bluff, and actually that's not a good enough reason to set up a Phoenix.

By all means look at the options, but do not follow it through until you've got 75-80%+ of the fanbase backing.

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skybluetony176 · Mar 22, 2014

letsallsingtogether said:
It will be too late then to do anything...

That's the line of thinking I'm coming around to and a phoenix club is not something I've given serious thought to before. Depending on the JR outcome and if the opening whistle blows on the first CCFC "home" game of next season at sixfields I wouldn't be surprised if momentum grows for a phoenix club. Especially if it has a promise attached that it will be disbanded should CCFC return to Coventry, not the Coventry "area".

Covstu · Mar 22, 2014

This whole thing is soul destroying but unfortunately I cannot look to another club or AFC until our club is dead. The whole discussion of a phoenix club coming out of the liquidated CCFC scares the hell out of me, I think this will be the new Northampton FC...

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