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Chris1987

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #281
Ring Of Steel said:
Despite what you, Grendel and various others are trying so hard to pretend isn’t the case, he was our most successful manager in decades, so “pro Robins rhetoric” is kind of inevitable when comparing managers.
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Which you never cease from mentioning . And btw I've never said that the Robins era was not the most successful in decades. If you're going to sling shit at bare minimum get your facts right .
 
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Chris1987

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #282
Ring Of Steel said:
He deserves more time and he’ll get more time, I’m saying that I see zero evidence whatsoever that he’s going to be a success, and I fear we’re now going to drift along waiting for some kind of spark that never comes. Portsmouth was worse than anything under Robins, and Lampard didn’t seem to have any idea what to do. Whatever about tactics, by now he should at least have instilled a bit of confidence & belief.

What is annoying is the way people are basically rewriting history, lying and trying to pretend Lampard has inherited a massive mess- he needs to be judged on results and results alone, zero sentiment or agenda- how long is it going to be “yeah but Robins wasn’t that good really/ yeah but Robins left him these players/ yeah but it’s not Lampard’s fault”…

Whichever way you slice it it’s been a very underwhelming start for Frank, and we need to see something very quickly.
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"Portsmouth was worse than anything under Robins "
Did you go to Rotherham away last season ?
Oh sorry forgot. You certainly wouldn't have been at that game
 

nicksar

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #283
I thought the performance at Portsmouth was really poor in the 2nd half but certainly no worse than the performance against Derby at the CBS.
Clearly Frank Lampard needs time before being judged and also worth mentioning (not seen it mentioned anywhere tbh) is he doesn't as yet have Haji Wright available.... makes a big difference having the leading goalscorer in your team.
I'm sure we will see some activity in the January transfer window to try to improve the defence... it's piss poor currently.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #284
nicksar said:
I thought the performance at Portsmouth was really poor in the 2nd half but certainly no worse than the performance against Derby at the CBS.
Clearly Frank Lampard needs time before being judged and also worth mentioning (not seen it mentioned anywhere tbh) is he doesn't as yet have Haji Wright available.... makes a big difference having the leading goalscorer in your team.
I'm sure we will see some activity in the January transfer window to try to improve the defence... it's piss poor currently.
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Can't agree with that about Saturday, thought it was far worse than Derby. Easily our worse performance of the season
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #285
@Ring Of Steel having a nightmare
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #286
Chris1987 said:
"Portsmouth was worse than anything under Robins "
Did you go to Rotherham away last season ?
Oh sorry forgot. You certainly wouldn't have been at that game
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Plymouth once was wonderful
 

nicksar

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #287
clint van damme said:
Can't agree with that about Saturday, thought it was far worse than Derby. Easily our worse performance of the season
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2nd half was really bad I agree.... only positive is FL and his team now know exactly where and what changes are required.
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #288
Chris1987 said:
"Portsmouth was worse than anything under Robins "
Did you go to Rotherham away last season ?
Oh sorry forgot. You certainly wouldn't have been at that game
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I was at the game , we lost 2-0 wasn't as bad as Saturday

Maybe you are on about the season we won league 1
 
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Chris1987

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #289
Evo1883 said:
I was at the game , we lost 2-0 wasn't as bad as Saturday
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I was at the game. It was
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #290
Chris1987 said:
I was at the game. It was
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I was there , it wasn't
 

Chris1987

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #291
Evo1883 said:
I was there , it wasn't
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It was against a side that got relegated , were dire all season with a way worse record than Portsmouth . You must have had too many beers beforehand to see that performance for what it was.
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #292
Chris1987 said:
It was against a side that got relegated , were dire all season with a way worse record than Portsmouth . You must have had too many beers beforehand to see that performance for what it was.
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Chris , we had 23 shots and conceded the second goal on the 93rd minute ..

We got battered Saturday had 7 shots all game , it was worse full stop
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #293
PS @Chris1987

I don't drink at the football
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #294
Evo1883 said:
PS @Chris1987

I don't drink at the football
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The way this seasons going, you probably should think about starting.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #295
clint van damme said:
The way this seasons going, you probably should think about starting.
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We were bad at Rotherham the season we won league 1
 
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Chris1987

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #296
Evo1883 said:
Chris , we had 23 shots and conceded the second goal on the 93rd minute ..

We got battered Saturday had 7 shots all game , it was worse full stop
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We will disagree again . It was the most depressing Cov Championship game I went to last season and was a disorganised shambolic embarrassment similar to Saturday in that respect. Portsmouth have a lot more about them collectively than that Rotherham side and certainly had no player fit to wipe Matt Ritchie's boots
 

Chris1987

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #297
Evo1883 said:
PS @Chris1987

I don't drink at the football
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I went straight to work after that game so I was teetotal that night
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #298
Chris1987 said:
I went straight to work after that game so I was teetotal that night
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Great , but I never suggested you were drunk
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #299
Evo1883 said:
We were bad at Rotherham the season we won league 1
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Was trying to think when the last time I attended a performance as bad as Saturday and Rotherham that year was the one that came to mind
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #300
Evo1883 said:
We were bad at Rotherham the season we won league 1
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Yes I would say that was the last time we were as bad as we were in the second half at the weekend

Sent from my Pixel 8 using Tapatalk
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #301
clint van damme said:
Was trying to think when the last time I attended a performance as bad as Saturday and Rotherham that year was the one that came to mind
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Pompey would be bottom of the league still had we beat them Saturday, they're shite too but we were just horrific
 
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Chris1987

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #302
Evo1883 said:
Great , but I never suggested you were drunk
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The point was that we saw the game differently under the same circumstances.
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #303
Chris1987 said:
The point was that we saw the game differently under the same circumstances.
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How did I see the game ?
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #304
There has been some bad performances under robins sure but he was our manager for about 420 games in total .

I don't believe Rotherham last season was anywhere near as bad as Saturday but preston at home was pretty bad .
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #305
Evo1883 said:
There has been some bad performances under robins sure but he was our manager for about 420 games in total .

I don't believe Rotherham last season was anywhere near as bad as Saturday but preston at home was pretty bad .
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Jesus Preston at home was just depressing, with the tats injury and the werid light show.

Would also add the Stoke 4-0
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #306
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Jesus Preston at home was just depressing, with the tats injury and the werid light show.

Would also add the Stoke 4-0
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That was the playoff season right ?
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #307
Evo1883 said:
That was the playoff season right ?
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Yeah, don’t get me wrong I loved that season and team but remember being so depressed at that match.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #308
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Yeah, don’t get me wrong I loved that season and team but remember being so depressed at that match.
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It's quite hard to play 46 matches and not be shit a couple of times
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #309
Evo1883 said:
It's quite hard to play 46 matches and not be shit a couple of times
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Oh 100% percent just that match was something else
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #310
Pointless arguing about what our worst performance has been. The top and bottom of it is Robins was superb for us but had reached the end of his road. Lampard is in situ but it can’t be argued this is his team. So comparisons should only be made 3-4 transfer windows in.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #311
Chris1987 said:
"Portsmouth was worse than anything under Robins "
Did you go to Rotherham away last season ?
Oh sorry forgot. You certainly wouldn't have been at that game
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There’s no way that match was as bad as Portsmouth. In fairness it was in the middle of a run of 4 losses on the trot which was pretty depressing, but as a one off match I’d argue Portsmouth was much worse.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #312
Cally Fedora said:
Pointless arguing about what our worst performance has been. The top and bottom of it is Robins was superb for us but had reached the end of his road. Lampard is in situ but it can’t be argued this is his team. So comparisons should only be made 3-4 transfer windows in.
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I respect your views, but really 3 or 4 windows, two years? Maybe you’re right and it’s impatience, I dunno, but that seems like an eternity.
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #313
covcity4life said:
King made the change to potentially salvage a playoff push but I don't think it's an expectation at all.
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Don't think it would have been unreasonable of King to expect to beat Cardiff and Portsmouth. Those extra points would have seen us 10th, just 7 points off the play offs with half the season remaining.

If we were in that position and King came out and said we weren't spending in January as there was no chance of play offs people would be losing their minds on here.

Not really sure that the aim when we changed manager was to be sat here a few weeks later arguing if our latest performance was bad enough to be classed as the worst in years or if we can find one that was worse.
 
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usskyblue

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #314
The second half vs Pompey was the worst half of football I’ve seen us play in years. Completely devoid of anything even remotely positive.

But then, according to the SBT Illuminati, it doesn’t count cuz I didn’t go.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 23, 2024
  • #315
chiefdave said:
Don't think it would have been unreasonable of King to expect to beat Cardiff and Portsmouth. Those extra points would have seen us 10th, just 7 points off the play offs with half the season remaining.

If we were in that position and King came out and said we weren't spending in January as there was no chance of play offs people would be losing their minds on here.

Not really sure that the aim when we changed manager was to be sat here a few weeks later arguing if our latest performance was bad enough to be classed as the worst in years or if we can find one that was worse.
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Why would we expect to beat Portsmouth? They have had a good home record?

Strange comment
 
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