Israel - Palestinian Conflict (4 Viewers)

Otis · Nov 12, 2023

Kizz said:
Because this is a Palestinian post?
Why would I share right wing bs here? I edit the comment to say my part of the right wing crazy.

Also the videos I shared are not just from yesterday. There is hundreds more.

The right wing are labeled hooligans and non-peaceful protest (true),

But the pro-palestine are labeled peaceful protesters (false), they're racist and just as crazy as the right wingers if not more.

That's a very broad brush you are tarring everyone with there.

I was in London yesterday and there were loads from the march at Victoria train station and all I could see was families and many old people. Just normal people. None of them were looking for trouble.

I had to wait an hour for my train, so was observing them.

I saw so many families,.who had clearly been on the march (placards and flags etc)

They were all peaceful and there wasn't a single chant from anyone the whole time I was there.

That clip,that first clip, shows one woman shouting out "death to the Jews". She is clearly an obnoxious, ill-educated individual and it was disgusting that she said that.

You can't just label everyone in the same manner.

Fysnkysc · Nov 12, 2023

Sick Boy said:
I live within 20 minutes walk of a major city centre. I’d rather go on my own experience of living here than your “made up facts”.

Made up , no you're just blind.

Fysnkysc · Nov 12, 2023

Otis said:
That's a very broad brush you are tarring everyone with there.

I was in London yesterday and there were loads from the march at Victoria train station and all I could see was families and many old people. Just normal people. None of them were looking for trouble.

I had to wait an hour for my train, so was observing them.

I saw so many families,.who had clearly been on the march (placards and flags etc)

They were all peaceful and there wasn't a single chant from anyone the whole time I was there.

That clip,that first clip, shows one woman shouting out "death to the Jews". She is clearly an obnoxious, ill-educated individual and it was disgusting that she said that.

You can't just label everyone in the same manner.

Why not though? It might be a minority but that minority is huge, not see them attack pro-israel rallys? Happening all over the world, a man was killed the other day by a hamas supporting lunatic.

Otis · Nov 12, 2023

Kizz said:
Just a giant fucking lie, 3 out of the clips I sent are not even from yesterday, every protest they're causing issues. So get your head out you ass and open your eyes.

Out of 10's of hundreds of thousands of marchers, of course they would be tiny pockets of trouble.

It's the same at a football game. You can have 25,000 in the ground and about 100 idiots causing trouble. That doesn't make everyone in the ground a football hooligan

Fysnkysc · Nov 12, 2023

Otis said:
Out of 10's of hundreds of thousands of marchers, of course they would be tiny pockets of trouble.

It's the same at a football game. You can have 25,000 in the ground and about 100 idiots causing trouble. That doesn't make everyone in the ground a football hooligan

Not but we all get labeled hooligans. So your point as correct as it is, is just invalid.

Fysnkysc · Nov 12, 2023

You can't defend those that don't want to be defended.

Otis · Nov 12, 2023

Kizz said:
Not but we all get labeled hooligans. So your point as correct as it is, is just invalid.

Do we all get labelled as hooligans? Really?

Sick Boy · Nov 12, 2023

Otis said:
Do we all get labelled as hooligans? Really?

It’s another one of his “facts”.

Fysnkysc · Nov 12, 2023

Otis said:
Do we all get labelled as hooligans? Really?

Yes we do , never seen the 200s of articles written about us.

Otis · Nov 12, 2023

Kizz said:
Yes we do , never seen the 200s of articles written about us.

No idea what you are reading.

So, families with kids and old age pensioners who go to football matches each week are labelled as hooligans?

They say there is a problem in football of hooliganism, but no-one labels all football supporters as all being hooligans.

There is a problem within Islam. No-one is saying otherwise, but you can't label all Muslims as bad. It's just not true.

My missus' boss is a Muslim and she says he is the kindest, sweetest bloke you could ever wish to meet.

And every Friday he takes the day off to do charity work with the homeless.

Fysnkysc · Nov 12, 2023

@Sick Boy
these are racist not mee

anyway as i said you'd be shocked to know my skin colour.

Fysnkysc · Nov 12, 2023

Otis said:
No idea what you are reading.

So, families with kids and old age pensioners who go to football matches each week are labelled as hooligans?

They say there is a problem in football of hooliganism, but no-one labels all football supporters as all being hooligans.

There is a problem within Islam. No-one is saying otherwise, but you can't label all Muslims as bad. It's just not true.

My missus' boss is a Muslim and she says he is the kindest, sweetest bloke you could ever wish to meet.

And every Friday he takes the day off to do charity work with the homeless.

And he will still be labeled, due to the small minority, me included i wouldnt go out my way to make friends with him.

Sick Boy · Nov 12, 2023

Kizz said:
@Sick Boy
these are racist not mee

anyway as i said you'd be shocked to know my skin colour.

Believe it or not but people of any skin colour can be racists and bigots.

People from the Middle East and Africa have majorly contributed to the UK over the last 50 years. Your comments generalising them are absurd.

Fysnkysc · Nov 12, 2023

Sick Boy said:
Believe it or not but people of any skin colour can be racists and bigots.

People from the Middle East and Africa have majorly contributed to the UK over the last 50 years. Your comments about them are absurd.

What have the specific people in questioned contributed?

Sick Boy · Nov 12, 2023

Kizz said:
What have the specific people in questioned contributed?

Fucking hell.

CCFCSteve · Nov 12, 2023

Kizz said:
@Sick Boy
these are racist not mee

anyway as i said you'd be shocked to know my skin colour.

I was going to make a gag about angry Harry hill but looks like someone’s already done it on the Twitter replies

Ps I love the posh sounding woman at the end…‘excuse me, I’m trying to make a living here, can you fuck off’ Well said. Absolute embarrassments

Sick Boy · Nov 12, 2023

CCFCSteve said:
I was going to make a gag about angry Harry hill but looks like someone’s already done it on the Twitter replies

Ps I love the posh sounding woman at the end…‘excuse me, I’m trying to make a living here, can you fuck off’ Well said. Absolute embarrassments

It's a very 'southern' video - loads of blokes trying to bully others, shouting and over-exaggerating their accents to sound 'tough' and doing nothing.

nicksar · Nov 12, 2023

Otis said:
No idea what you are reading.

So, families with kids and old age pensioners who go to football matches each week are labelled as hooligans?

They say there is a problem in football of hooliganism, but no-one labels all football supporters as all being hooligans.

There is a problem within Islam. No-one is saying otherwise, but you can't label all Muslims as bad. It's just not true.

My missus' boss is a Muslim and she says he is the kindest, sweetest bloke you could ever wish to meet.

And every Friday he takes the day off to do charity work with the homeless.

I'm 69 Otis and to be honest I know a fair few pensioners that were once football hooligans ,in fact a lad I grew up with actually started the "Legion"... if anyone asks I won't name him....also worth mentioning it was never my thing.

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 12, 2023

CCFCSteve said:
Ps I love the posh sounding woman at the end…‘excuse me, I’m trying to make a living here, can you fuck off’ Well said. Absolute embarrassments

Love how they meekly trot off then, too!

skybluetony176 · Nov 12, 2023

I absolutely condemn any violence from pro Palestinian protesters and any antisemitism.

But let’s get real here one side yesterday got violent and displayed racism enraged by a lie. A lie perpetrated by an incompetent government who have given up on governance and a compliant right wing press.

The other side is enraged by the indiscriminate killings of innocent people including children in their thousands. It in no way justifies violence on the streets of England or antisemitism but at least they’re getting angry over something worth getting angry about.

David O'Day · Nov 12, 2023

Sick Boy said:
It's a very 'southern' video - loads of blokes trying to bully others, shouting and over-exaggerating their accents to sound 'tough' and doing nothing.

the best bit is when the young kid grabs a random bloke eating a sandwiches hand to pretend to be held back

covcity4life · Nov 12, 2023

PVA said:
They didn't quite get what they wanted though, fortunately.

Thing is if you look at Tommy Robinson's x timeline then all you see if far right being harshly set upon by police where Palestine protestors are changing for Jews to die etc and getting away with it.

This makes the gammon more fearful and adds to their fake news conspiracy theories etc

The truth is no doubt the hooligans were looking for a kick off. And some protestors are clearly spouting some evil stuff and need to be arrested imo. Video of poppy sellers having to move is very frustrating to watch for me as a Brit(don't matter if Asian) so I imagine many others will be fuming. Now does the video tell the whole story? I dunno and can't say in today's world. But majority don't even ask themselves the question anymore if it doesn't fit their narrative mind you.

But there is no room for normal people in the middle anymore. You have to pick a side it seems. I can see alot of white British picking Tommy's side. It's worrying where the country is going.

My opinion is we have the car right that are either cunts or fearful people being brainwashed by Tommy robinson. Then you have the left sho genuinely care about palestinan kids etc but also showing their hatred for Western society slot of them. And the right do have a right to be angry at that and that plays into Tommy's hands.

I dunno I've written alot but not really said much I guess. It's all just sad imo

Northants Sky Blue · Nov 12, 2023

Gove casually strolling unaccompanied through 100's protesters in front of the worlds press. They must think our heads zip up at the back

"Michael love, its all gone south so the Mail need a staged photo op for the front page. Would you...."
"Fuck sake, Im settled in for the night. Rippons on Strictly later"
"There `might' be a post going in the Cabinet Resuffle..."
"I'll get my coat"

Como · Nov 12, 2023

Always amusing coming across these sort of remarks complaining about colonisers, where doe he think he is?

SBT · Nov 12, 2023

Kizz said:
Ever been to Paris? Or even Italy? Or Spain?

Even Italy? Truly I could never hope to match the wisdom of such a well-seasoned traveller

Como · Nov 12, 2023

Momentum founder says leftwingers ‘in denial’ about pro-Palestinian slogans
Jon Lansman, a key figure behind the rise of Jeremy Corbyn, says he has come to feel alienated by pro-Palestinian campaign

Momentum founder says leftwingers ‘in denial’ about pro-Palestinian slogans

Jon Lansman, a key figure behind the rise of Jeremy Corbyn, says he has come to feel alienated by pro-Palestinian campaign

www.theguardian.com

Interesting, you cannot get much harder left than Momentum.

Reminds me of Work will set you free could you say the words can mean something else, of course, but everyone knows what it really means.

David O'Day · Nov 12, 2023

Como said:
Momentum founder says leftwingers ‘in denial’ about pro-Palestinian slogans
Jon Lansman, a key figure behind the rise of Jeremy Corbyn, says he has come to feel alienated by pro-Palestinian campaign

Momentum founder says leftwingers ‘in denial’ about pro-Palestinian slogans

Jon Lansman, a key figure behind the rise of Jeremy Corbyn, says he has come to feel alienated by pro-Palestinian campaign

www.theguardian.com

Interesting, you cannot get much harder left than Momentum.

Reminds me of Work will set you free could you say the words can mean something else, of course, but everyone knows what it really means.

thought you love that? being a stinky american racist

shmmeee · Nov 12, 2023

Point of order: you can get waaaaay harder left than Momentum.

chiefdave · Nov 12, 2023

Northants Sky Blue said:
Gove casually strolling unaccompanied through 100's protesters in front of the worlds press. They must think our heads zip up at the back

Not the first time Gove has just happened to be caught up in the middle of something with the press on hand to document it.

shmmeee · Nov 12, 2023

Art.

CCFCSteve · Nov 12, 2023

shmmeee said:
Point of order: you can get waaaaay harder left than Momentum.

SBT political threads

Liquid Gold · Nov 12, 2023

I rarely use this site any more and this thread is exactly why. Outright blatant disgusting racism tolerated and admin emboldening it.

Petty arguments from the same posters on football threads.

Fucking cesspit.

covcity4life · Nov 12, 2023

Liquid Gold said:
I rarely use this site any more and this thread is exactly why. Outright blatant disgusting racism tolerated and admin emboldening it.

Petty arguments from the same posters on football threads.

Fucking cesspit.

Well said mate

Saddlebrains · Nov 12, 2023

Como said:
Always amusing coming across these sort of remarks complaining about colonisers, where doe he think he is?

Fucking hell.

If you're bigging up Hitler in your argument then you've probably lost

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Nov 12, 2023

Kizz said:
Not but we all get labeled hooligans. So your point as correct as it is, is just invalid.

Well, we don't, but lets for arguments sake say that we do all get labeled hooligans.

That makes that assertion lazy and wrong and the person making said assertion is relying on stereotypes and generalisations.

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