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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 9, 2023
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Nick said:
That's quite upmarket.
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tbf I wanted to say Carousel, but that's so 2013 now.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,487
Nick said:
It is Remembrance Day, you said the only people who will be there are the far right.

I referenced Bedworth on Remembrance Day who I assume are also all far right?
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Can you actually read? i thought the "bit thick nick" persona was just a bit of an act.

I have said I am referring to anyone who goes on an organised counter protest at the cenotaph and not normal people who are just in the area.

Is there an organised far right protest in Bedworth on Saturday? No, so why bring it up as once again no one is talking about normal people just people going to the organise event on Saturday at the cenotaph.

It's not hard to understand
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,488
Shouldn’t be mean about Bedworth. When I was house hunting spoke to an Indian lad who told me how worried he was when he moved here because of all the rumours of it being so racist, but he found the area to be so friendly and welcoming.
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,489
Nick said:
So it will just be the EDL and no people genuinely showing respect and zero people also marching/protesting for Palestine?

This will be interesting.
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There will be no palestine march as that does not go near the cenotaph
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 9, 2023
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shmmeee said:
Shouldn’t be mean about Bedworth. When I was house hunting spoke to an Indian lad who told me how worried he was when he moved here because of all the rumours of it being so racist, but he found the area to be so friendly and welcoming.
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Yeah, I've found it nicer and more tolerant than Nuneaton for sure.

It's safe to say the pubs are shit though!
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,491
Deleted member 5849 said:
Yeah, I've found it nicer and more tolerant than Nuneaton for sure.

It's safe to say the pubs are shit though!
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Bedworth is sound, as you say much better than Funeaton(not a typo)
 

Nick

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,492
David O'Day said:
Can you actually read? i thought the "bit thick nick" persona was just a bit of an act.

I have said I am referring to anyone who goes on an organised counter protest at the cenotaph and not normal people who are just in the area.

Is there an organised far right protest in Bedworth on Saturday? No, so why bring it up as once again no one is talking about normal people just people going to the organise event on Saturday at the cenotaph.

It's not hard to understand
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So it is not only 1 group of people going there then, is it?

You were saying there's only 1 group of people going and it will be them who will kick off. I was trying to figure out if it was ticket only for skinheads with doc martins on.
 

Nick

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,493
David O'Day said:
There will be no palestine march as that does not go near the cenotaph
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Can you actually read?

I said:

zero people also marching/protesting for Palestine?
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So there will be absolutely nobody around who's involved with that?

My point is that there will be:

1. People who just want peace marching.
2. People who just want to kick off, push their own shit, benefit from the movement.
3. People who just want to go and show their respects to those lost in the war.
4. People who just want to go and shout about Muslims

If you mix them up there's potential for it to kick off. It could be:

Number 2 pissing off number 3 and 4
Number 4 pissing off everybody

(not limited to those lists, but just saying it isn't as simple as "if it kicks off it's 100% these people because I dislike them")
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,494
Nick said:
Can you actually read?

I said:



So there will be absolutely nobody around who's involved with that?
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You phrased it as a question and I answered it so once again you fail to read something correctly.

The march goes nowhere near the Cenotaph so no there will be no marchers there.

To make you try and understand this please see below the route of the march that doesn't go past the cenotaph:

 

Nick

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,495
David O'Day said:
You phrased it as a question and I answered it so once again you fail to read something correctly.

The march goes nowhere near the Cenotaph so no there will be no marchers there.

To make you try and understand this please see below the route of the march that doesn't go past the cenotaph:

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It will be amazing to see so many people strictly walk along that line and nowhere else.
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,496
Nick said:
It will be amazing to see so many people strictly walk along that line and nowhere else.
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ever been on a march? they won't be able to go in a different direction as the police will close the route off

so one the march is not going by the cenotaph
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,497
Nick said:
So it will just be the EDL and no people genuinely showing respect and zero people also marching/protesting for Palestine?

This will be interesting.
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This is Saturday, not Remembrance Day.

I do now think however, due to all the shit stirring and firing people up, some now may well turn up at the cenotaph gunning for a confrontation.

People have been whipped into a frenzy over it, despite the march organisers saying the march is going nowhere near the cenotaph, because Braverman and the likes of the Mail keep saying that the cenotaph is at threat.

Without all the frenzy, the march would have gone ahead with no problems and you could have just protected the cenotaph with a couple of coppers if needed be.

It's ridiculously been blown out of all proportion by some of the press and then the likes of the home secretary.

They have raised the tension and anger levels and now some of the people are getting het up and their pitchforks at the ready.

It's utterly ridiculous. The press and government have stoked this situation of anger and any impending violence on Saturday.
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 9, 2023
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David O'Day said:
ever been on a march? they won't be able to go in a different direction as the police will close the route off

so one the march is not going by the cenotaph
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It's good that you are so confident in the police to contain it.
 

Nick

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,499
Otis said:
This is Saturday, not Remembrance Day.
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Saturday 11th November, Remembrance Day.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,500
Nick said:
It's good that you are so confident in the police to contain it.
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yeah as they do this all the time

shit that you are looking for arguments in a throw stuff at the wall and see if anything sticks style
 

Nick

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,501
David O'Day said:
yeah as they do this all the time

shit that you are looking for arguments in a throw stuff at the wall and see if anything sticks style
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It's just common sense....

Sorry to question yet another bandwagon you are on. You must be black, Palestinian, disabled, transgender and everything from by now?
 

Otis

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,502
Nick said:
Saturday 11th November, Remembrance Day.
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That was a typo. I meant Remembrance Sunday.

Which is obviously Sunday.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,503
Braverman and Sunak are absolutely desperate for it to kick off on the march.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,504
Nick said:
It's just common sense....

Sorry to question yet another bandwagon you are on. You must be black, Palestinian, disabled, transgender and everything from by now?
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It's nonsense not "common sense", it's factually bullshit

Also the irony of the person who jumps on every gammon bandwagon mentioning bandwagons, you the perma offended bandwagon jumper Nick, own it.
 

Nick

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,505
David O'Day said:
It's nonsense not "common sense", it's factually bullshit

Also the irony of the person who jumps on every gammon bandwagon mentioning bandwagons, you the perma offended bandwagon jumper Nick, own it.
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Alright then spider, there will be no mixing of people. The police will have it all under control.
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,506
Nick said:
Alright then spider, there will be no mixing of people. The police will have it all under control.
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have you ever been on a march "bit thick"? Do you really think the police are going to let the march take a different route? do you think that every road from the march route to the cenotaph is not going to be blocked and the met aren't going to have more than enough personnel on the scene? They have controlled marches of 100's of thousands of people before and this will not be anything like that size so what makes you think they can't keep this on route? They dealt with marches of likely 7 figure crowds in the early austerity marches. Do you have anything apart from "common sense" to say they won't this time?
 

nicksar

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,507
Hopefully the march on Saturday will be trouble free,however there will be plenty of pro Palestinian protesters elsewhere in London as is the case day in day out currently in central London...chanting all manner of abuse at people going in to the (seemingly) never ending list of eating establishments and shops that are "Jewish" owned and support Israel.
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,508
nicksar said:
Hopefully the march on Saturday will be trouble free,however there will be plenty of pro Palestinian protesters elsewhere in London as is the case day in day out currently in central London...chanting all manner of abuse at people going in to the (seemingly) never ending list of eating establishments and shops that are "Jewish" owned and support Israel.
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It's sad to see.

I get that they can see footage and photos of people suffering in Gaza and violence by Israeli settlers against Palestinians in news feeds, but this is not the answer, to just go out and attack Jews and Jewish establishments in the UK and elsewhere.

It's always the innocents who get hurt.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,509
David O'Day said:
And I am loving the fact that Suella is that stupid she has basically called the Orange Marches in NI terror marches
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It’s laughable. I’ve been to the 12th on a few occasions and it’s as far as I’ve seen an excuse for a piss up and wear a skirt… sorry I mean kilt. It’s true to say that there are some marches in areas where there are flashpoints in places like Derry and Belfast. But in the small country community where my family is from you’re just as likely to see catholics using it as an excuse for a piss up because they’ll have good Protestant friends involved. I must have been to a good half a dozen in my lifetime and have only seen trouble once. It was between 2 Protestant lads, one of which was my cousin and he was defending his sisters honour.
 

Nick

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  • Nov 9, 2023
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David O'Day said:
have you ever been on a march "bit thick"? Do you really think the police are going to let the march take a different route? do you think that every road from the march route to the cenotaph is not going to be blocked and the met aren't going to have more than enough personnel on the scene? They have controlled marches of 100's of thousands of people before and this will not be anything like that size so what makes you think they can't keep this on route? They dealt with marches of likely 7 figure crowds in the early austerity marches. Do you have anything apart from "common sense" to say they won't this time?
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OK then, there will be absolutely nobody off that route throughout London on Saturday. There is absolutely nobody at all around London unless they are on a designated route.

Common sense says there will be plenty.
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 9, 2023
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No one on the march will be allowed to change the route but nice attempt to change the rules. Going to mention Bedworth again? How about Coleshill? Alvechurch? Hinckley? Bulkington?

Common sense more like nonsense
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,512
Nick said:
Saturday 11th November, Remembrance Day.
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That’s Armistice Day. Remembrance day is Sunday. Armistice day is traditionally to remember those who died in WW1 as armistice refers to the Armistice of Compiegne which was famously signed on a railway carriage in France to end WW1. Remembrance Sunday is when homage is paid to all service men from all wars. To go all Alan Partridge it’s like saying Tannoy when you mean PA.
 

Nick

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  • Nov 9, 2023
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David O'Day said:
No one on the march will be allowed to change the route but nice attempt to change the rules. Going to mention Bedworth again? How about Coleshill? Alvechurch? Hinckley? Bulkington?

Common sense more like nonsense
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Where have I said they will divert the route so everybody has to go a different way? . Unless you really think that out of however many hundred thousand they are going to teleport to the start of the route and then away from the end without being anywhere else in London at all.

You are so keen to try and act clever, read what I said.
 

Nick

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  • Nov 9, 2023
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skybluetony176 said:
That’s Armistice Day. Remembrance day is Sunday. Armistice day is traditionally to remember those who died in WW1 as armistice refers to the Armistice of Compiegne which was famously signed on a railway carriage in France to end WW1. Remembrance Sunday is when homage is paid to all service men from all wars. To go all Alan Partridge it’s like saying Tannoy when you mean PA.
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Remembrance Day is on Saturday. The 11th.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 9, 2023
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Nick said:
Remembrance Day is on Saturday. The 11th.
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It really isn’t. I know it’s commonly referred to as Remembrance Day but they’re wrong. It is and always has officially been Armistice Day since 2018, the year the Armistice was signed on the 11th of November. Regardless of whether it’s a Saturday or not.
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 9, 2023
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skybluetony176 said:
Regardless of whether it’s a Saturday or not.
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Presumably shortly to be made a bank holiday as everyone, including the government, seems to think it’s incredibly disrespectful to do anything other than mark armistice on that day.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 9, 2023
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chiefdave said:
Presumably shortly to be made a bank holiday as everyone, including the government, seems to think it’s incredibly disrespectful to do anything other than mark armistice on that day.
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Ain’t it funny how many people all of a sudden give a shit about it. I’m amazed Nick isn’t shutting the forum for the day.
 

Otis

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,518
skybluetony176 said:
Ain’t it funny how many people all of a sudden give a shit about it. I’m amazed Nick isn’t shutting the forum for the day.
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Well, I would wear a black armband to mark the occasion, but as black appears in the flag of Palestine, I don't want to be seen as a terrorist sympathiser and supporter of Hamas.
 

Como

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #2,519
Worthy of Not the 9 O'clock News but true:

 
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Otis

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  • Nov 9, 2023
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Unbelievable that people are fighting outside a museum of tolerance.

 
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