Evidence they don't , go ask all 7000 , 1 in 217 who has viewed this thread has admitted to it , the odds are against you
That's how it works , a big sample size too
I work in data modelling for a living mate, have done for a long time, I don't think you've quite understood how that works. Have you taken a sample of the non responders here to determine whether there's any difference in their opinion.
Maybe it's not 1 in 217, maybe it's 1 in 7000. How do you know?
Isn't that the same with literally anything ?
With any poll given for example , how do you know the next 200 won't say different ?
But you're right you work in data , does the data say they definitely won't back hamas ?
What's the answer ? That also answers the point I'm making
Cheers
I'm not making the claim, mate, you are. I can see no evidence that there are non-posters on the forum supporting Hamas, and you obviously can't provide any.
So given that most people would probably be offended at being thought of as supporting Hamas, and I've got no evidence beyond HH that anyone does, I wouldn't haved piled in like you have done.
You're welcome to your opinion of course, but it is just your opinion and not based on fact. Sorry if that's too many words.
One question.
What actual evidence do you have that a single person that you've accused of supporting Hamas in this, of the 7000 posters does so?
When it's followed up by , sorry if that's too many wordsThere are plenty of posters who consider Israel on par with Hamas and therefore a rogue terrorist state and clearly more sympathetic with Palestine
Also comments like “usually a good poster” and “mate” are highly condescending
I've always knew it was opinion .. I gave it and was piled on anyway .. away from the initial point which was moved past as i admitted the wording was shit .. I'm still having to explain myself for suggesting there is going to be people on here that want hamas to beat Israel in conflict, the fact several posters say thats not them doesn't alter the opinion one bit , neither does it disprove my opinion one bit , we've already 1 poster openly say it ..you know yourself some people hate Israel that much
You can't say there are no people on here either that wouldnt back hamas v Israel, you simply can't
So when you say I've said something daft , and I'm pushing you hard on what it is exactly that I've said daft , it's because I'm still yet to hear it ?
Mocking my intelligence isn't winning any arguments is it , so again duffer
What's been said that's daft ??????
Same , glad you replied as I've beenI'm not mocking your intelligence, or you. In fact you're the one who's been doing the laughing emojis and that kind of mocking rubbish so let's not get into that, eh. I've done this as politely as I could, you've got upset about being challenged.
We've done it to death mate. You can't understand why I think accusing a bunch of people you've never met of something pretty offensive is wrong and is based on literally no evidence. I'm not sure that your statement is daft, but it certainly isn't fact.
Believe whatever you want, but try to accept that you've got no evidence that it's true.
Maybe there are people hereabouts that hate Israel that much that they think Hamas's acts are acceptable, but given only one person has said it, why would I accuse anyone else here of it. I haven't come across that opinion widely, or indeed at all except for the odd person on TV.
Anyway, we're getting nowhere here mate, apart from maybe winding you up, and that's not something I'm interested in doing.
On this we differ, and clearly substantially so; on plenty of other stuff we probably agree and I usually enjoy reading your posts. I'm happy to leave it at that.
Same , glad you replied as I've been
All day
I'm happy to move on , no hard feelings PUSB
I do keep wondering if this is why Egypt won’t open the borders to refugees. If the people of North Gaza leave Gaza altogether it makes life easier for Isreal to occupy the North of Gaza as it will be a ghost town.As I keep saying, Netanyanhu doesn't want a 2 state solution, he wants to keep stealing Palestinian land and he enables Hamas to help achieve his political aims.
Backed up in this article by the former heads of both the Israeli secret service and the IDF.
Said from the start it doesn’t add up. If only because no Hamas rocket has ever caused that scale of damage in Israel. Even if you want to dismiss the Hamas body count the destruction on the ground is far more widespread than the couple of cars at best we see damaged in Israel from Hamas rockets.
seems como and Kieran may need to apologise
It seems like Israel's strategy is clear all Palestinians out of the country. They were hoping all in Gaza would flee to Egypt and similarly those in the West Bank to Jordan.I do keep wondering if this is why Egypt won’t open the borders to refugees. If the people of North Gaza leave Gaza altogether it makes life easier for Isreal to occupy the North of Gaza as it will be a ghost town.
CNN Investigates: Forensic analysis of images and videos suggests rocket caused Gaza hospital blast, not Israeli airstrike
This is a not bad passably comprehensive analysis of the "bomb", not that I think it makes much difference. Difficult to rationally dispute a belief system.
that is not bad, it's awful and yes it is difficult to dispute your belief system, I mean look at the headline ffsCNN Investigates: Forensic analysis of images and videos suggests rocket caused Gaza hospital blast, not Israeli airstrike
This is a not bad passably comprehensive analysis of the "bomb", not that I think it makes much difference. Difficult to rationally dispute a belief system.
Egyptians have had their own problems with Hamas and their links with the Muslim brotherhood. Spent many years fighting terrorism in the Sinai already. Also don't want the possibility of Palestianians launching attacks on Israel from Egyptian territory that might threaten the current peace they have with Israel. They don't want large numbers of Palestinians moving into their territory hence why they co-operated with Israel on the Gaza blockades for years. Jordan don't want Palestinian refugees either.I do keep wondering if this is why Egypt won’t open the borders to refugees. If the people of North Gaza leave Gaza altogether it makes life easier for Isreal to occupy the North of Gaza as it will be a ghost town.
Egyptians have had their own problems with Hamas and their links with the Muslim brotherhood. Spent many years fighting terrorism in the Sinai already. Also don't want the possibility of Palestianians launching attacks on Israel from Egyptian territory that might threaten the current peace they have with Israel. They don't want large numbers of Palestinians moving into their territory hence why they co-operated with Israel on the Gaza blockades for years. Jordan don't want Palestinian refugees either.
Some interesting comments here
Compared to Nazis and Israel shouldn’t exist (which is the Iran stated objective)
Israel
When is something going to be done about this murderous blood-thirsty warmongering nation. They commit war crime after war crime after war crime......and yet "we" do nothing other than arm them to carry on killing babies. Its some kind of fucked up irony that this Jewish nation commits war...www.skybluestalk.co.uk
Story that needs to be toldFelt obliged to respond as I started that thread back in 2014.....
...a quick Google shows I started it on a day the Israelis bombed a UN school during a massive over-reactive murderous land incursion..
So whilst I've attempted to learn a great deal more about the situation and atleast dialled down my language and anger since then, both hamas and the Israeli state appear to have learnt nothing and have both ramped up their terrorism.....
PS: approximately 600,000 forcibly displaced and approaching 5000 dead Palestinians in the last fortnight....and thats before they've even started the landoffensivegrab...
So why not name those you're saying are supporting Hamas but not saying it to remove any potential confusion.Me saying 1 person backs hamas over israel , there will be more , ISNT saying "duffer backs terrorists " FACT.
So what is it that I've said that is incorrect ?
Let's do this
So why not name those you're saying are sporing Hamas but not saying it to remove any potential confusion.
Othrwise what you've said is anyone on here is sympathetic to the Palestinians and not wholeheartedly supporting Israel then there's a decent chance they support Hamas and terrorists.
In which case the argument that anyone who is supporting Israel is likely Islamophobic also applies.
Which of course it doesn't. Because it's bollocks.
Evidence they don't , go ask all 7000 , 1 in 217 who has viewed this thread has admitted to it , the odds are against you
That's how it works , a big sample size too
YepIs this the debate that will go on for as long as Israel Palestine?
We’re doing better than the population then. Do you know what the lizard man constant is? Look it up.
As an aside, sample size is irrelevant if it’s not representative
I could argue with you , however you've waited a couple days and for me to agree to move on to reply .. I've moved on and won't be engaging after this
I think that's reasonable for everybody's sanity
That's why I also gave the thumbs up on dreamers reply
Wasn’t starting an argument. Just throwing some facts out there for you.
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