Well that was humbling
Jew
Muslim
Christian
In the cathedral praying in their own language and faith
I just feel that it’s all hopeless and pointless when I think too long
Anyway the litany of reconciliation is a powerful set of words
All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
The hatred which divides nation from nation, race from race, class from class,
Father forgive.
The covetous desires of people and nations to possess what is not their own,
Father, forgive.
The greed which exploits the work of human hands and lays waste the earth,
Father, forgive.
Our envy of the welfare and happiness of others,
Father, forgive.
Our indifference to the plight of the imprisoned, the homeless, the refugee,
Father, forgive.
The lust which dishonours the bodies of men, women and children,
Father, forgive.
The pride which leads us to trust in ourselves and not in God,
Father, forgive.
Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.
It’s a hospital - they weren’t in there to get fucking pick n mix…..For the sake of comparison a V2 which carried a ton of explosive far bigger than anything involved here took out a packed Woolworth with if memory serves me right 300 dead and twice that injured.
So if we are to believe the 500 dead number and twice that injured would be normal there will be 1000 injured who were taken away and treated somewhere
Guardian has just walked back it's story.
Ignore him, he's a troll ad he's someone's burner account. If you look at his posting he's made as many posts about this as he has before that in the last 8 years.Ah yes Woolworths are well known for being as densely populated as hospitals.
Taking place in quite symbolic surroundings too I imagine.Well that was humbling
Jew
Muslim
Christian
In the cathedral praying in their own language and faith
I just feel that it’s all hopeless and pointless when I think too long
Anyway the litany of reconciliation is a powerful set of words
All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
The hatred which divides nation from nation, race from race, class from class,
Father forgive.
The covetous desires of people and nations to possess what is not their own,
Father, forgive.
The greed which exploits the work of human hands and lays waste the earth,
Father, forgive.
Our envy of the welfare and happiness of others,
Father, forgive.
Our indifference to the plight of the imprisoned, the homeless, the refugee,
Father, forgive.
The lust which dishonours the bodies of men, women and children,
Father, forgive.
The pride which leads us to trust in ourselves and not in God,
Father, forgive.
Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.
By the glass windowTaking place in quite symbolic surroundings too I imagine.
The British Prime Minister is on his way to the Middle East.
What facts are out there to show that they didn'tlol so not based on actual fact just on your opinion. brilliant.
another swerve about the other thread where the lynch mob on this are absent.
what actual facts are out there to show Isreal done the bombing last night? please show me.
And anyway we’re approaching 4000 deaths from their bombingWhat facts are out there to show that they didn't
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Good point, they've killed thousands of children that weren't in hospitalAnd anyway we’re approaching 4000 deaths from their bombing
How many deaths is enough?
Why do people have to comment on everything? And why do people keep saying "the silence from some speaks volumes?l" kind of stuff?you were quick last night to say Isreal behind the attack yet no actual proof to back that up? do you genuinely believe 500 died going by the photos seen today?
as for the other thread - Sweden v Belgium shootings
Where is tony, Dave and alike condemning what happened? I’m sure it it was a right wing loon attacking Muslims they’d be all over it. the double standards are for all to see.
I believe it was me who posted that story link up and I don't think I commented on it. Just found the whole thing very, very sad.To be fair , I've not seen yourself comment on here or on your twitter about the Christian bloke in America killing the 6 year old Muslim kid
Look I get it , I've argued on this thread about things , but we can't talk about double standards
Worst in England.This was the worst tragedy of the entire V weapon attacks.
What facts are out there to show that they didn't
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Why do people have to comment on everything? And why do people keep saying "the silence from some speaks volumes?l" kind of stuff?
Third post in in that thread I put a sad face. I was too shocked and saddened to say anything at the time.
in addition so if Palestine lied about the death toll and saying a hospital was hit (which it clearly wasn’t) what else they lied about?What facts are out there to show that they didn't
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Good point, they've killed thousands of children that weren't in hospital
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isn’t that the consequences of war? deaths on both sides. one death is too many regardless which ‘team’ your on
I despise how you all on here blame Isreal without calling out Hamas and other terrorist parties.
I have read the thread and if anyone with pair eyes reads it. you can see how certain posts excuse what Hamas are doing.More nonsense, nearly every poster on here has called out hamas, read the thread.
I have read the thread and if anyone with pair eyes reads it. you can see how certain posts excuse what Hamas are doing.
The other night was the hypocrisy of all. everyone jumping on saying 500 dead, hospital hit. then truth shows no hospital was hit and certainly not the 500 dead and 1000 injured like was said.
Hamas with disinformation doesn’t help the cause in a possible way but don’t see that being called out on here. in fact the crowd on here frothing at the mouth of the news other night are now quiet on the subject because it doesn’t fit their agenda now and proved wrong.
Do you think the UK government should have bombed northern Ireland in the 70s?isn’t that the consequences of war? deaths on both sides. one death is too many regardless which ‘team’ your on
I despise how you all on here blame Isreal without calling out Hamas and other terrorist parties.
Yup, just listened and he said wiping out Hamas won't work, because others will just take their place.Frank Gardner just been on 5live, always a good listen on matters relating to the ME.
Unfortunately he paints a bleak picture of the future between these two.
"EVERYONE jumping on?"I have read the thread and if anyone with pair eyes reads it. you can see how certain posts excuse what Hamas are doing.
The other night was the hypocrisy of all. everyone jumping on saying 500 dead, hospital hit. then truth shows no hospital was hit and certainly not the 500 dead and 1000 injured like was said.
Hamas with disinformation doesn’t help the cause in a possible way but don’t see that being called out on here. in fact the crowd on here frothing at the mouth of the news other night are now quiet on the subject because it doesn’t fit their agenda now and proved wrong.
It will never happen. I’m old enough to remember when we’d defeated the Taliban. Whatever happened to them? It’s so much bigger than a specific number of people, it’s an ingrained mentality caused by many influences from circumstance of being born in Gaza. The only way you’ll rid the world of Hamas is by changing the circumstances in Gaza. Which there’s no appetite to do either from Israel’s current government or from the western governments.I would love to see Hamas gone. 100%. But at what cost?
Hamas are the new PLO, once Arafat became a statesmanYup, just listened and he said wiping out Hamas won't work, because others will just take their place.
And weren't the PLO deemed to be terrorists at one point?Hamas are the new PLO, once Arafat became a statesman
I like you Tom have tried to stay silent, I have posted just a few things, not fully knowing which side to believe and only being concerned for the innocents on both sides, but you then get landed on if you haven't chosen a side from several people. I will go back to just reading this thread and hold my thoughts to myselfI did kick myself after posting tbf.
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