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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #876

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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #877
Como said:
US has closed their Embassy in Israel, had a message from a friend in LA who works for a Jewish owned Company, now she is working but a lot of the staff are missing. They had a note around that the Police are on heightened alert.

Stay safe everybody.
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Who's everybody?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #878
Como said:
US has closed their Embassy in Israel, had a message from a friend in LA who works for a Jewish owned Company, now she is working but a lot of the staff are missing. They had a note around that the Police are on heightened alert.

Stay safe everybody.
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Who you talking to here?

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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #879
fernandopartridge said:
Who you talking to here?

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
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Judging by most of his posts, probably himself
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #880
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Backing the US in one conflict but Russia in another?
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Im actually pretty consistent - from a western perspective we should have zero involvement in these conflicts and let nature - as it were - take it’s course - neither are our fight
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #881
Grendel said:
Im actually pretty consistent - from a western perspective we should have zero involvement in these conflicts and let nature - as it were - take it’s course - neither are our fight
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Then that means allowing the more powerful ‘side’ to always prevail. Not intervening is not the neutral act it appears to be.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #882
clint van damme said:
Who's everybody?
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I'm off to the pub to watch the game, I'll make sure I watch out for them.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #883
Grendel said:
Im actually pretty consistent - from a western perspective we should have zero involvement in these conflicts and let nature - as it were - take it’s course - neither are our fight
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Until the refugees turn up on our beaches in small boats.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #884
Grendel said:
Im actually pretty consistent - from a western perspective we should have zero involvement in these conflicts and let nature - as it were - take it’s course - neither are our fight
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Hmm, historically we're not without responsibility in this one, mind you.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #885
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Then that means allowing the more powerful ‘side’ to always prevail. Not intervening is not the neutral act it appears to be.
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I just don’t think it’s the Wests job to play policeman and let’s be honest if China do take Taiwan no one will do a thing
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #886
skybluetony176 said:
Until the refugees turn up on our beaches in small boats.
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It’s a long trip
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #887
Grendel said:
I just don’t think it’s the Wests job to play policeman and let’s be honest if China do take Taiwan no one will do a thing
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In other words let the bigger countries run roughshod over smaller ones
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #888
Grendel said:
It’s a long trip
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Not as far as Afganistan and about the same as Syria.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #889
Grendel said:
It’s a long trip
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And yet they still come. And from much further away too.

Maybe we should get involved. So people aren’t displaced by turning a blind eye to the people who create refugees.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #890
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In other words let the bigger countries run roughshod over smaller ones
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Or let the even bigger countries take a side and let them win and then control them - welcome to the world
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #891
skybluetony176 said:
And yet they still come. And from much further away too.

Maybe we should get involved. So people aren’t displaced by turning a blind eye to the people who create refugees.
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they come from France tony
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #892
How naive is it to say it’s not the West’s responsibility. Who else is going to pick up the pieces? Russia? China? Iran? Do me a favour. It will be the West, no one will be crossing a continent on foot to find refuge in Russia, China won’t be doing fundraising for the inevitable refugees so that leaves Iran who are only involved to fuck shit up.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #893
skybluetony176 said:
How naive is it to say it’s not the West’s responsibility. Who else is going to pick up the pieces? Russia? China? Iran? Do me a favour. It will be the West, no one will be crossing a continent on foot to find refuge in Russia, China won’t be doing fundraising for the inevitable refugees so that leaves Iran who are only involved to fuck shit up.
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Why should anyone pick up any pieces? Are you suggesting the US are going to take Palestinian refugees Tony? Wow look forward to seeing that.

What a strange thing to say - the west will only pick up pieces if it can gain power and influence
 

Otis

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #894
Grendel said:
Or let the even bigger countries take a side and let them win and then control them - welcome to the world
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Can't see the UK controlling anyone.

So, in reality, you are only talking in terms of China, Russia and the US.

What a depressing thought.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #895
Grendel said:
they come from France tony
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They come from places like Afghanistan because we abandoned them during our botched retreat.
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #896
Deleted member 9744 said:
They come from places like Afghanistan because we abandoned them during our botched retreat.
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We bottle most things these days to be honest.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #897
Deleted member 9744 said:
They come from places like Afghanistan because we abandoned them during our botched retreat.
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So the uk are responsible now for the Afghanistan crises. Just the Uk

Noted
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #898
Grendel said:
Why should anyone pick up any pieces? Are you suggesting the US are going to take Palestinian refugees Tony? Wow look forward to seeing that.

What a strange thing to say - the west will only pick up pieces if it can gain power and influence
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No I’m not saying that, which is why you’re saying that I am. It’s pretty clear which path they’ll take and it will be already established path from the region. Europe, including us. The pieces will be arriving on our beaches, we will be powerless and have no influence on their decision to come here and powerless to send them away. Palestinian refugees coming to a hotel near you while our government championed the government that made them refugees.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #899
Grendel said:
So the uk are responsible now for the Afghanistan crises. Just the Uk

Noted
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That really is all you’ve got. Making out people have said something that they quite clearly haven’t.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #900
A well written summary


 
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PVA

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #901
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #902
How we “won’t” pick up the pieces. This happened just last month

Foreign Secretary announces new support for almost 6 million Palestinian refugees

During a visit to Jalazone Refugee Camp in the West Bank, the Foreign Secretary announced a £10 million package of funding for the UN Relief and Works Agency.
www.gov.uk
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #903
PVA said:
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So to confirm. It's not the fault of the people who attacked but those who got attacked and did nothing to stop it?
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #904
Nick said:
So to confirm. It's not the fault of the people who attacked but those who got attacked and did nothing to stop it?
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There are some proper weird takes on all of it, literally anywhere you look.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #905
Find it bit eery that last week before this kicked off again I watched the film kingdom of heaven and the Louis theroux ultra Zionists documentary again.
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #906
Nick said:
So to confirm. It's not the fault of the people who attacked but those who got attacked and did nothing to stop it?
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Probably the stupidest comment on the whole thread!
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #907
Nick said:
So to confirm. It's not the fault of the people who attacked but those who got attacked and did nothing to stop it?
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Did nothing to prevent it even though they had advanced notice something was about to happen, is the point. The individual acts are of course on the people who committed them. We keep being told that Israel has the right to defend itself, which in itself is 100% correct. Problem is if they’re given advanced notice, which it’s becoming more apparent they were, then prepare to defend yourself. They have the fourth (I think) largest army in the world. It’s hard to believe that they didn’t have either the manpower or the resources to up their defences along the Gaza Strip. Especially around residential areas. Netanyahu failed and the optics make it look like it was a deliberate failure. Unless you can think of another reason that he’d ignore intelligence from a neighbouring country who despite historically being an enemy felt compelled to warn Israel or ignore intelligence from the US who are historically their closest ally and probably worst of all ignore his own intelligence agency. His own intelligence agencies who also happens to be one of the most sophisticated in the world. Why on earth would he ignore all that? It doesn’t add up.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 13, 2023
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skybluetony176 said:
Did nothing to prevent it even though they had advanced notice something was about to happen, is the point. The individual acts are of course on the people who committed them. We keep being told that Israel has the right to defend itself, which in itself is 100% correct. Problem is if they’re given advanced notice, which it’s becoming more apparent they were, then prepare to defend yourself. They have the fourth (I think) largest army in the world. It’s hard to believe that they didn’t have either the manpower or the resources to up their defences along the Gaza Strip. Especially around residential areas. Netanyahu failed and the optics make it look like it was a deliberate failure. Unless you can think of another reason that he’d ignore intelligence from a neighbouring country who despite historically being an enemy felt compelled to warn Israel or ignore intelligence from the US who are historically their closest ally and probably worst of all ignore his own intelligence agency. His own intelligence agencies who also happens to be one of the most sophisticated in the world. Why on earth would he ignore all that? It doesn’t add up.
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It might just be because like most right wing populists he isn't actually very competent. See also Johnson, Trump, Bolsonaro...
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #909
Nick said:
So to confirm. It's not the fault of the people who attacked but those who got attacked and did nothing to stop it?
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What?!

Maybe just stick to getting wound up about flags!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 13, 2023
  • #910
Oh dear

 
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