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dutchman

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #666
Nick said:
Has it been confirmed Biden hasn't seen the pictures he was on about?
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Yes:

White House walks back Biden’s claim he saw children beheaded by Hamas

US president spokesperson says comments were based on news reports and claims of Israeli officials.
www.aljazeera.com
 
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clint van damme

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #667
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #668
clint van damme said:
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On a train with no headphones. What's the general gist?
 
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Fysnkysc

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #669
Ian1779 said:
You never heard of the Crusades then.
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You never read my previous comment.
Or put 2+2 together..
 
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Fysnkysc

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #670
David O'Day said:
You probably should do a bit of research first, Christianity has a lot of blood on it's hands, FFS people have just been talking about Northern Ireland where people kill each other over wat flavour of Christianity is best.

Also you reference India, well there is a lot of terrorism there not carried out by Muslims:

Hindu terrorism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org
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I also said before that Christianity has blood on ots hands from hundreds of years ago not recently.

As I said it's stupid killing people in the name of fake gods.
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #671
Otis said:
On a train with no headphones. What's the general gist?
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Just talking about his 20 years reporting from Palestine and how basically if you treat people how the Palestinians have been treated its not going to end well.
Also potential reasons why it happened when it did and about Israels relationships with other Arab countries.
Said Hezbollah getting involved would be a game changer which since the interview they have
 
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rexo87

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #672
clint van damme said:
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Bang on imo


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

duffer

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #673
clint van damme said:
I was talking more about, and I don't know the right words to describe them, but more like medicine, engineering etc.
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You must be thinking of mathematics...

Pythagoras 500BC ish. Still kind of applies.

Euclid, the father of geometry, 200 years later.

Physics, maybe? Archimedes; a ton of stuff including displacement, calculus (iirc), and good at screwing too.

If you want to get to the moon and back, then a grasp of Newtonian physics is pretty handy. 400 years old.

I'm pulling your leg a bit mate, but my personal opinion is that science isn't enormously helpful in the argument against religion. As soon as I say, my God (or Gods) exist beyond the realms of the observable universe, it kind of falls down as a 'proof'.

My entirety personal take on it is believe in whatever you want, or believe in nothing at all, but don't think what you believe is the only possible truth, and that it puts you beyond the law of man.

Anyway, I digress. For my money though, it isn't religion that's the biggest threat to humanity - it's greed and short-sightedness, and our simple inability to come up with a system of economics that doesn't destroy the planet.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #674
clint van damme said:
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Wouldn't it be good if our media reporting included this sort of background for balance.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #675
David O'Day said:
Religion was created to help people understand and make sense of a world they didn't really grasp.

It's become corrupted since then
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At its core and best that’s an amen and amen and amen at that
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #676
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Israel now holding 2 million people hostage, whilst starving and bombing them and depriving them of medicine and water....in order to release about 150 hostages...

Backed to the hilt with both rhetoric and military hardware from the USA.

Utterly shameful.

There will be fall out from this upcoming genocide for generations....
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Yep
 
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napolimp

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #677
Updated death tolls in Gaza of 447 children and 248 women, according to their health ministry. All Islamic terrorists of course, so that was lucky. None of the children died from beheading either, so they're just dead - which is loads better of course.
 
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CovInEssex

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #678
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Israel now holding 2 million people hostage, whilst starving and bombing them and depriving them of medicine and water....in order to release about 150 hostages...

Backed to the hilt with both rhetoric and military hardware from the USA.

Utterly shameful.

There will be fall out from this upcoming genocide for generations....
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why doesn't egypt help them/open the border?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #679
Kizz said:
I also said before that Christianity has blood on ots hands from hundreds of years ago not recently.

As I said it's stupid killing people in the name of fake gods.
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Many conflicts are not fundamentally sectarian, they are just battles for power between different groups (northern ireland being the most obvious example where the sectarian element is ultimately over stated). Israel and associated conflict is though.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #680
CovInEssex said:
why doesn't egypt help them/open the border?
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Israel bombed it when it was open.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #681
One curious thing about UK coverage of Israel is the inherent belief that somehow a Jewish person born and raised exclusively in the UK is some sort of authority in talking about it.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #682
Eh?!

 

duffer

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #683
napolimp said:
Updated death tolls in Gaza of 447 children and 248 women, according to their health ministry. All Islamic terrorists of course, so that was lucky. None of the children died from beheading either, so they're just dead - which is loads better of course.
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Indeed, and in fairness some more of those Palestinian children will soon be dying slow, agonising deaths from secondary infections and suchlike because of the absence of power and medical supplies.

It's hideous and immoral and ultimately maybe even self-destructive. It's the best ever recruiting tool for the nutters like Hamas.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #684
Is this genuine?

 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #685
Tommo1993 said:
Eh?!

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Imagine trying to reason with him
In his defence he is rightly bloody angry but
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #686
clint van damme said:
Is this genuine?

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Probably.
 
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napolimp

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #687
clint van damme said:
Is this genuine?

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Wait. So are we saying Starmer supports Palestinians in Gaza, and is also a massive two-faced bitch?
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #688
shmmeee said:
Probably.
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Not like Keith to do a u turn.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #689

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Rafah Crossing Point open again

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Egypt has declared the opening of the Rafah Crossing Point from Gaza and is calling on Israel not to strike it, according to the Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, as reported by Anadolu Agency.​

In a statement issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs on Thursday, October 12, the Arab Republic of Egypt urged all countries, as well as regional and international organizations, wishing to provide humanitarian and emergency aid to the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip. This will be to “alleviate their suffering and respond to their anguish resulting from the severe and prolonged Israeli bombardments.” This aid should be delivered to Al-Arish International Airport, which has been designated by the Egyptian authorities to receive international humanitarian assistance from various international organizations and entities.

The Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs emphasized that “universal moral values” should compel the delivery of humanitarian support to Palestinians who are currently enduring significant hardships and dangers.
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #690
Sky Blue Pete said:
Imagine trying to reason with him
In his defence he is rightly bloody angry but
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I thought he came across terribly tbh
 
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Como

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #691
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #692
Fuck me. Why did I break my “no videos” rule (not graphic)

 
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #693
The US government is tarting to talk about human rights in relation the Israel military actions if what Antony Blinken says holds true,. Lloyd Austin half hinted at this as well so maybe international opinion is starting to turn slightly.
 

Tea & Busquets

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #694
Ashdown said:
Yes you are right , religion it’s all bollocks.
The world would be a better place without all these hierarchical systems of bullshit that have used and abused, murdered , controlled and robbed ordinary people for centuries. So scrap Judaism, Islam, Christianity ( Especially Catholicism ) Hinduism and all the other prejudicial affiliated hangers on .
Let’s start again…..
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I don't think religion is bad, it's good to have a faith, the problem arises when we mix religion with politics and geoeconomics. Government should strictly be secular.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #695
David O'Day said:
The US government is tarting to talk about human rights in relation the Israel military actions if what Antony Blinken says holds true,. Lloyd Austin half hinted at this as well so maybe international opinion is starting to turn slightly.
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I think it is.

They had some sympathy after the initial events, but I think some of the goodwill is starting to fade. Not surprising if you admit to cutting off water supplies I guess.
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #696
PVA said:
I think it is.

They had some sympathy after the initial events, but I think some of the goodwill is starting to fade. Not surprising if you admit to cutting off water supplies I guess.
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Just refused to allow aid in as well. Really not helping themselves.
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #697
shmmeee said:
Fuck me. Why did I break my “no videos” rule (not graphic)

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That's horrendous, no parent should have to go through that
 
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clint van damme

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #698
David O'Day said:
The US government is tarting to talk about human rights in relation the Israel military actions if what Antony Blinken says holds true,. Lloyd Austin half hinted at this as well so maybe international opinion is starting to turn slightly.
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Can't see it, Netanyahus waited a long time for this opportunity.
Hamas have derailed talks about normalisation between Israel and Saudi, everyone's a winner except all the poor sods who have been killed, injured, or displaced.

Geo politics eh, what a shit show
 
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napolimp

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #699
clint van damme said:
Can't see it, Netanyahus waited a long time for this opportunity.
Hamas have derailed talks about normalisation between Israel and Saudi, everyone's a winner except all the poor sods who have been killed, injured, or displaced.

Geo politics eh, what a shit show
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It's horrendous isn't it. Hamas doesn't give a shit about its people, the Israeli government doesn't give a shit about its people, and both are acting under the pretense that they're protecting their own people.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 12, 2023
  • #700
clint van damme said:
Can't see it, Netanyahus waited a long time for this opportunity.
Hamas have derailed talks about normalisation between Israel and Saudi, everyone's a winner except all the poor sods who have been killed, injured, or displaced.

Geo politics eh, what a shit show
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Netanyahu is starting to get questioned by his own people for how even if he wasn't warned by Egypt 9which the US congress confirmed he was) he was so unprepared for an attack.

Andrew Mitchell who is a (still) a government minister was talking about get aid in to the Gaza Strip. Opinion is on the turn it seems.
 
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