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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,966
Grendel said:
I’ve always said the Middle East is a danger to the uk. Pipsqueak banana republics in South America aren’t
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Haven't you said countless times about how you don't give a fuck about what's going on in Gaza?
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,967
3 US servicemen killed
 
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Ian1779

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,968
duffer said:
Maybe you should take a lesson from what's happened in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and Libya before you start brainlessly warbling on about the Green party.

It's funny how the same people that hate immigrants from war-torn countries turning up here, are now in such a rush to cheer on another illegal war elsewhere.

The fucking pretence that Trump and Israel are doing this for the benefit of the oppressed Iranians is for the birds, anyone who believes that should probably avoid bridge related purchases for a while.
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,969
Ian1779 said:
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'You keep supporting good people, that's what you do'

So why are we supporting Trump and Netanyahu?
 
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Ian1779

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,970
Brighton Sky Blue said:
'You keep supporting good people, that's what you do'

So why are we supporting Trump and Netanyahu?
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Let’s be honest - if we are about supporting a regime change for the benefit of persecuted populations, No.1 on the list should be Israel and the wiping out of Netanyahu.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,971
Ian1779 said:
Let’s be honest - if we are about supporting a regime change for the benefit of persecuted populations, No.1 on the list should be Israel and the wiping out of Netanyahu.
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He also said ‘what if they bring in anti Semitism’. Criticising Israel is anti Semitic now is it?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,972
PVA said:
3 US servicemen killed
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This could end badly for Trump. Elected on ‘America first’ campaign, Straight of Hormuz apparently affectively closed for now which will push up oil/energy and in turn inflation in US. All before mid terms later this year
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,973
CCFCSteve said:
This could end badly for Trump. Elected on ‘America first’ campaign, Straight of Hormuz apparently affectively closed for now which will push up oil/energy and in turn inflation in US. All before mid terms later this year
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He'll lose the midterms heavily anyway, but yeah this certainly isn't going to help.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,974
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Haven't you said countless times about how you don't give a fuck about what's going on in Gaza?
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I hardly think Palestine will threaten my pension through instability or airport security for any holidays I take
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,975
Grendel said:
I hardly think Palestine will threaten my pension through instability or airport security for any holidays I take
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Tehran is lovely this time of year, where had you booked?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,976
CCFCSteve said:
This could end badly for Trump. Elected on ‘America first’ campaign, Straight of Hormuz apparently affectively closed for now which will push up oil/energy and in turn inflation in US. All before mid terms later this year
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This is why he stole Venezuela's oil.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,977
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He also said ‘what if they bring in anti Semitism’. Criticising Israel is anti Semitic now is it?
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Think it sort of has been for a little while now depending on how you interpret of the law.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,978
Grendel said:
I hardly think Palestine will threaten my pension through instability or airport security for any holidays I take
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But Trump will threaten your pension, he already has, but you're fine with him.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,979
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Think it sort of has been for a little while now depending on how you interpret of the law.
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Conflating Israel with Judaism is itself anti Semitic
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,980
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Conflating Israel with Judaism is itself anti Semitic
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But we've seen were people have specifically criticised the Israeli government and have had anti-semite thrown at them,
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,981
PVA said:
But Trump will threaten your pension, he already has, but you're fine with him.
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He hasn’t - growths been pretty steady - even if it wasn’t I can’t do much about him. I didn’t elect him.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,982
Brighton Sky Blue said:
This is why he stole Venezuela's oil.
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Might help a bit but won’t stop oil price from spiking
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,983
CCFCSteve said:
Might help a bit but won’t stop oil price from spiking
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It's got one of the largest reserves in the world, it'll help quite a bit.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,984
Grendel said:
He hasn’t - growths been pretty steady - even if it wasn’t I can’t do much about him. I didn’t elect him.
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I wasn't aware you'd elected Khamenei.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,985
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It's got one of the largest reserves in the world, it'll help quite a bit.
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We’re talking about in the short term, you can’t just start extracting oil in time to keep prices low prior for the midterms
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,986
CCFCSteve said:
We’re talking about in the short term, you can’t just start extracting oil in time to keep prices low prior for the midterms
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Why are you bothering?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,987
CCFCSteve said:
We’re talking about in the short term, you can’t just start extracting oil in time to keep prices low prior for the midterms
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They're making plans to steal or rig those, so no worries there.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 1, 2026
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153 kids killed in an Iranian school hit by an Israeli or US missile
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,989
PVA said:
153 kids killed in an Iranian school hit by an Israeli or US missile
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Educational facilities will be you know what?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,990
PVA said:
153 kids killed in an Iranian school hit by an Israeli or US missile
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It’s war innit peace in our time
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,991
PVA said:
153 kids killed in an Iranian school hit by an Israeli or US missile
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‘The regime deserved it’
 
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duffer

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,992
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It's got one of the largest reserves in the world, it'll help quite a bit.
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He hasn't got his hands on it yet, as I understand it. No U.S. company is willing to go back into Venezuela currently.

It's almost as though rational actors like big businesses don't trust someone as crazy and impulsive as Trump, at his word.

Compared to Iran, Trump's coup d'etat in Venezuela is straightforward, and that's nowhere near resolved. Iran will be a bloody mess for a long time yet.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
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duffer said:
He hasn't got his hands on it yet, as I understand it. No U.S. company is willing to go back into Venezuela currently.

It's almost as though rational actors like big businesses don't trust someone as crazy and impulsive as Trump, at his word.

Compared to Iran, Trump's coup d'etat in Venezuela is straightforward, and that's nowhere near resolved. Iran will be a bloody mess for a long time yet.
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‘Just rise up and overthrow the regime’ the Iranians are told. That will lead from anything from bloody reprisals to a civil war.

There is no obvious successor regime to this one. A puppet government will go the way of similar entities in Iraq and Afghanistan. It’s not like we don’t have recent historical lessons to learn from either.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,994

UK accepts US request to use its military bases, Starmer says

Sky News understands the UK has given the U.S. access to use Diego Garcia and RAF Fairford military bases to prevent Iran firing missiles across the Middle East.
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,995
duffer said:
Maybe you should take a lesson from what's happened in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and Libya before you start brainlessly warbling on about the Green party.

It's funny how the same people that hate immigrants from war-torn countries turning up here, are now in such a rush to cheer on another illegal war elsewhere.

The fucking pretence that Trump and Israel are doing this for the benefit of the oppressed Iranians is for the birds, anyone who believes that should probably avoid bridge related purchases for a while.
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Yes, and I have noted in my previous post that there is a risk the new leadership can be even worse. That doesn't mean that it is also alright to let some of these current barbarians carry on doing what they're doing either.

I don't think you have worked out the link with the Green party here, and you haven't responded to my question on the other thread about demographics either. You seem to just fire out statements that make you feel high and mighty, but can't back anything up. You seem to lack basic critical thinking as well.

The hatred for Trump and Israel should not be bigger or more important than the end of a disgusting regime such as this.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,996
PVA said:
153 kids killed in an Iranian school hit by an Israeli or US missile
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Has the origin of the missile been verified?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,997
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Yes, and I have noted in my previous post that there is a risk the new leadership can be even worse. That doesn't mean that it is also alright to let some of these current barbarians carry on doing what they're doing either.

I don't think you have worked out the link with the Green party here, and you haven't responded to my question on the other thread about demographics either. You seem to just fire out statements that make you feel high and mighty, but can't back anything up. You seem to lack basic critical thinking as well.

The hatred for Trump and Israel should not be bigger or more important than the end of a disgusting regime such as this.
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And when all these people displaced in the Middle East are looking to leave, or the power struggle starts in Iran and many claim asylum elsewhere, how will you feel when a fair few of them end up here?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,998
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
And when all these people displaced in the Middle East are looking to leave, or the power struggle starts in Iran and many claim asylum elsewhere, how will you feel when a fair few of them end up here?
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What has that got to do with my point? For some reason we can't stay on track.

You might as well start talking about Trump and Israel.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,999
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What has that got to do with my point? For some reason we can't stay on track.

You might as well start talking about Trump and Israel.
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No, it's very much on track. I'm just able to think more than one step ahead and am looking at what this likely means beyond the death of a despicable leader.

If even more people end up dying in a power struggle/civil war and/or the Iranians end up with another, potentially worse, religious fanatic in charge, has the death of the Ayatollah been a good thing? If more people are displaced and we end up accepting even greater numbers of Iranians and Middle Eastern refugees from the conflict, has it been a good thing?

For someone who had a go at someone else's critical thinking, I suggest you look at your own.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 2, 2026
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
No, it's very much on track. I'm just able to think more than one step ahead and am looking at what this likely means beyond the death of a despicable leader.

If even more people end up dying in a power struggle/civil war and/or the Iranians end up with another, potentially worse, religious fanatic in charge, has the death of the Ayatollah been a good thing? If more people are displaced and we end up accepting even greater numbers of Iranians and Middle Eastern refugees from the conflict, has it been a good thing?

For someone who had a go at someone else's critical thinking, I suggest you look at your own.
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These deflections are very boring.
 
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