Sick Boy
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No chance of that, he's too subservient to old Don.
No chance of that, he's too subservient to old Don.Although I wouldn’t agree to it didn’t Starmer say he’d recognise a Palestine State? As he’s buddies with Macron I’m amazed he hasn’t made a speech tonight declaring solidarity.
Don’t be such a toddler, this is grown up politics.*but we're still going to be selling stuff to the Israelis
Don’t be such a toddler, this is grown up politics.
I’m on the side of wanting peaceAt least you’ll now have a party firmly on the side of Palestine. Have you signed up yet?
So you do want the hostages freed too then?I’m on the side of wanting peace
Of course, why would I not?So you do want the hostages freed too then?
Seems to get forgotten about 95% of the timeOf course, why would I not?
Has anyone on here at any point said they don't want the hostages freed? Not sure Israel dropping bombs on places they think the hostages are being held is doing much to increase their chances of survival.Seems to get forgotten about 95% of the time
Might be easier to get them back through diplomacy instead of mass murder and destructionSeems to get forgotten about 95% of the time
Just hardly ever gets mentioned, you know the kids and men and women being held hostage by HamasHas anyone on here at any point said they don't want the hostages freed? Not sure Israel dropping bombs on places they think the hostages are being held is doing much to increase their chances of survival.
Genuine question, how many hostages are still unaccounted for?Seems to get forgotten about 95% of the time
As with most things that hardly get mentioned its because nobody disagrees. Someone says the hostages should be freed, everyone agrees so you only get a couple of posts and thats it.Just hardly ever gets mentioned, you know the kids and men and women being held hostage by Hamas
It's also quite likely that a few hostages have been killed during the IDF's destruction of civilian buildings, or more indirectly as a result of the attacks on medical facilities and personnel.As with most things that hardly get mentioned its because nobody disagrees. Someone says the hostages should be freed, everyone agrees so you only get a couple of posts and thats it.
Someone says bombing hospitals and shooting kids is wrong and you get people coming on arguing that it isn't and even if it is we shouldn't complain about it, which then means there's pages and pages of posts.
59 Israeli hostages in total, 24 believed to be alive.Genuine question, how many hostages are still unaccounted for?
Can anyone tell me why these 12-25mn people don’t matter as much
Fair point okBy all means start a thread on it Peter
Can anyone tell me why these 12-25mn people don’t matter as much
We can’t change either of themThey absolutely do, and there have been protests in this country. I believe there was one at the Chinese embassy earlier this month if memory serves. There's people pushing for our government to do more but the governments response tends to be that discussions are taking place behind closed doors which makes it hard to establish what, if anything, is being done. There are people campaigning for more to be done, Rahima Mahmut who is on that podcast is very prominent figure among them.
I think there's a couple of things that lead to you reading about it less. Firstly the government here have declared it a genocide in parliament, something they refuse to do with Gaza which is a cause for a lot of online discourse.
Secondly there's a lot of very graphic footage that comes out of Gaza despite Israel's attempts to stop reporting, China have been far more successful in stopping reporting and sadly for a lot of people its a case of out of sight, out of mind.
There's also I think a case of fatigue. There is so many horrific things going on in the world that people can be overwhelmed. When that happens people gravitate to the cause they believe they have the greatest chance of being able to effect change.
They absolutely do, and there have been protests in this country. I believe there was one at the Chinese embassy earlier this month if memory serves. There's people pushing for our government to do more but the governments response tends to be that discussions are taking place behind closed doors which makes it hard to establish what, if anything, is being done. There are people campaigning for more to be done, Rahima Mahmut who is on that podcast is very prominent figure among them.
I think there's a couple of things that lead to you reading about it less. Firstly the government here have declared it a genocide in parliament, something they refuse to do with Gaza which is a cause for a lot of online discourse.
Secondly there's a lot of very graphic footage that comes out of Gaza despite Israel's attempts to stop reporting, China have been far more successful in stopping reporting and sadly for a lot of people its a case of out of sight, out of mind.
There's also I think a case of fatigue. There is so many horrific things going on in the world that people can be overwhelmed. When that happens people gravitate to the cause they believe they have the greatest chance of being able to effect change.
Sadly probably true but I think people feel they can have at least a minimal impact with Gaza. Look at the pressure on Starmer currently to recognise a Palestinian state. Would that be happening if everyone just accepted genocide was inevitable and stayed silent? There's also a feeling that the UK is not doing enough to stop arming Israel, providing intelligence, providing support such as refuelling flights and training the troops.We can’t change either of them
What on earth is left wing about Starmer's Labour government?I actually think it’s pretty fucking sick to spend your days claiming to be left wing while making up nonsense about the only left wing government we’re likely to get because it’s some game to you sat in Italy.
The IDF are terrorists.More footage has emerged of the IDF taking pot shots at crowds of people queuing for food at the US-Israeli organised ‘humanitarian’ relief stations.
It seems the organisation is actually just a scam created to allow the IDF to murder people for sport
What on earth is left wing about Starmer's Labour government?
Not sure if I mentioned this the other day but they had a doctor in Gaza on the news and he was talking about how they are pretty sure the IDF are playing a game shooting kids as every day the kids that are coming in have all been shot in a different body part. So one day it will be shoulder, one day leg etc etc.More footage has emerged of the IDF taking pot shots at crowds of people queuing for food at the US-Israeli organised ‘humanitarian’ relief stations.
It seems the organisation is actually just a scam created to allow the IDF to murder people for sport
Yes I saw the report on the vending machines. Full fat Coke for Netanyahu I assume, Diet Coke for his orange assistantNot sure if I mentioned this the other day but they had a doctor in Gaza on the news and he was talking about how they are pretty sure the IDF are playing a game shooting kids as every day the kids that are coming in have all been shot in a different body part. So one day it will be shoulder, one day leg etc etc.
Also saw a report yesterday and the reporter was on a hill that overlooks Gaza from the Israel side. I posted previously about how those telescopes like you get at the beach had been installed so Israelis can watch the bombing. They've now installed vending machines. Can't be going hungry or thirsty while you're watching starving people being shot and bombed.
What for?Christ, should be instantly kicked out of university
Christ, should be instantly kicked out of university
You think what there doing is acceptable at university?What for?
You think what there doing is acceptable...?
To be clear, you want people to be thrown out of university for non violent protest?You think what there doing is acceptable at university?
Students protesting? Unheard of, don't think it will catch on.You think what there doing is acceptable at university?
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