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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #5,356
chiefdave said:
There's some on YouGov, very quick google would seem to suggest most polls showing roughly the same results and support for Israel rapidly decreasing
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Who gets asked that?
Secondly, do people think the majority of those in the UK wake up and have to check the latest Gaza news?

I'm not sure the majority of the UK are as invested as people think.

There's seeing something and thinking "that's really bad that innocent people have died" but the majority of people will just carry on with their day. Not everybody cares about "being on the right side of history".
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #5,357
Sick Boy said:
I’m just highlighting your ongoing hypocrisy.
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You and work hypocrite go hand in hand ‘super moderator’
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #5,358
skybluetony176 said:
I never said that the details were the same, I’m pointing out that continued support by the British government by way of arms supply will reflect negatively upon the sitting PM who allowed that to continue. The longer the invasion of Gaza is allowed to continue the more facts of atrocities by Israel will come out that will reflect Israel in a worse and worse light the more public perception will change and it is changing.

You’re also wrong about the majority of the British population not caring about Gaza. Any polling on the subject shows we do regardless of how the question is posed from are Israel committing genocide, should we have a full arms embargo on Israel to just outright opposing the war. Which is exactly why Starmer will be viewed as a war criminal by generations if he continues to allow us to support Israel with any form of military assistance.

It’s not too late for Starmer, diplomacy has failed, Israel isn’t listening to it’s traditional allies especially in Europe where opinions are already far stronger against Isreal than they are here and governments have had to take far more serious decisions regarding arms sales. They’re already choosing to be on the right side of history,Starmer has a very limited period to catch up if he chooses. If he doesn’t it will be a very big nail in his political coffin and reflect upon public opinion of him for life same as it has with Blair. And let’s not forget that Blair’s backdrop is the longest period of growth in UK history, he successfully negotiated peace in Northern Ireland etc, GW2 aside he was largely a successful PM who achieved some positive milestones, certainly by modern standards. Starmer is unlikely to ever have that backdrop simply because the world is in such a mess right now which is not an ingredient to forging success, he’s in a damage limitation government at best and is messing that up on the home front on a regular basis (although no where near as bad as the previous government).
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Thoughts on the squad for the upcoming season Tony? Think rushworth will be a good signing? Think we’ll sell Milan?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #5,359
skybluetony176 said:
You’re also wrong about the majority of the British population not caring about Gaza. Any polling on the subject shows we do regardless of how the question is posed from are Israel committing genocide, should we have a full arms embargo on Israel to just outright opposing the war. Which is exactly why Starmer will be viewed as a war criminal by generations if he continues to allow us to support Israel with any form of military assistance.
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In the latest Yougov poll just 30% sympathise more with Gaza.

52% don't have an opinion and 17% sympathise more with Israel.

And that's just of people being polled, I think for many it doesn't even register and in 5 or 10 years it'll be even less of an issue for most.

As for Starmer being a war criminal, that's just silly.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #5,360
Nick said:
Who gets asked that?
Secondly, do people think the majority of those in the UK wake up and have to check the latest Gaza news?

I'm not sure the majority of the UK are as invested as people think.

There's seeing something and thinking "that's really bad that innocent people have died" but the majority of people will just carry on with their day. Not everybody cares about "being on the right side of history".
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It’s a pretty pointless poll
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #5,361
SkyBlueDom26 said:
You and work hypocrite go hand in hand ‘super moderator’
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Have you any updates yet on the ISIS cell being bombed in Syria?
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #5,362
Sick Boy said:
Have you any updates yet on the ISIS cell being bombed in Syria?
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Have you had the trophy through yet for becoming a super moderator on SBT? Some achievement that
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #5,363
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Have you had the trophy through yet for becoming a super moderator on SBT? Some achievement that
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Ouch.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #5,364
Grendel said:
It’s a pretty pointless poll
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Completely agree
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #5,365
Sick Boy said:
Ouch.
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It’s a lifetime goal of mine, so congratulations
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #5,366
Sorry if people are upset that I choose to post about this and not local roadworks or something, but reading this and it just sounds really awful?

Israeli forces kill 67 Palestinians seeking aid in northern Gaza, Hamas-run ministry says
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #5,367
SBT said:
Sorry if people are upset that I choose to post about this and not local roadworks or something, but reading this and it just sounds really awful?

Israeli forces kill 67 Palestinians seeking aid in northern Gaza, Hamas-run ministry says
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Same pattern as with bombing the hospitals. Denied it was happening at all, then it was happening but it was Hamas doing it, then no it was us but it was a mistake, then it wasn't a mistake but there was a specific target.

Then you reach the point we're at now where they're openly committing war crimes daily, all live streamed on Tiktok and Insta but those in charge are too scared, or have been paid to much, to say a word.
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #5,368
Here is another supporter of Israel, Harvy Weinstein, remember him.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #5,369
Don’t really get why that’s relevant
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 20, 2025
  • #5,370
Captain Dart said:
Here is another supporter of Israel, Harvy Weinstein, remember him.
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What?
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2025
  • #5,371
Let's get satirical.

Shocking outbreak of terrorist grannies tackled by stunningly brave police officers across UK

Unquestionably the most disturbing aspect of Israel's genocide has been the outbreak of terrorist grannies across the UK.
www.normalisland.co.uk
 
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mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 23, 2025
  • #5,372

UKLFI is coming for your decorative plates and kites!
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2025
  • #5,373
More than 100 humanitarian groups warn of mass starvation in Gaza

Apparently all 100 aid organisations are now agents of Hamas….
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 24, 2025
  • #5,374

Far-right Israeli politicians and settlers discuss luxury ‘Gaza riviera’ plan

Legal experts say scheme to annex territory and forcibly displace Palestinians is tantamount to ethnic cleansing
www.theguardian.com
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2025
  • #5,375
So that's France, Spain, Norway and Ireland so far isn't it?

 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Jul 25, 2025
  • #5,376
I wish someone would take out that piece of shit, Netanyahu! Snipers dream!
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2025
  • #5,377
Looks like they've gone too far for that well known lefty rag the Express judging from todays front page.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2025
  • #5,378

UN human rights chief criticises 'disturbing' Palestine Action ban

Volker Turk urges the UK government to lift the "unnecessary" ban on the group.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2025
  • #5,379
chiefdave said:

UN human rights chief criticises 'disturbing' Palestine Action ban

Volker Turk urges the UK government to lift the "unnecessary" ban on the group.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Didn’t have you down Dave as a defender of a group that attacks our own military bases, clueless and disrespectful

Tbh it doesn’t even surprise me
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2025
  • #5,380
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Didn’t have you down Dave as a defender of a group that attacks our own military bases, clueless and disrespectful

Tbh it doesn’t even surprise me
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Literally didn't type a single letter in that post, if people reporting the news offends you probably best to take it up with the BBC or take it up with the UN who made the comments.

Was interesting to finally see a photo of the damage done to the plane that is so severe there have been some people claiming it will cost tens of millions to repair.

 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2025
  • #5,381
chiefdave said:
Literally didn't type a single letter in that post, if people reporting the news offends you probably best to take it up with the BBC or take it up with the UN who made the comments.

Was interesting to finally see a photo of the damage done to the plane that is so severe there have been some people claiming it will cost tens of millions to repair.

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How much did it cost to fix?????

 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2025
  • #5,382
chiefdave said:
Literally didn't type a single letter in that post, if people reporting the news offends you probably best to take it up with the BBC or take it up with the UN who made the comments.

Was interesting to finally see a photo of the damage done to the plane that is so severe there have been some people claiming it will cost tens of millions to repair.

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So the government are lying now? Just listen to yourself.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2025
  • #5,383
They certainly didn't do a very accurate job with the aerosol, could have put a sheet down.
I remember there was a comment about Crow bars or something, I'd assume they may have been used in gaining entry or some other?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2025
  • #5,384
Although I wouldn’t agree to it didn’t Starmer say he’d recognise a Palestine State? As he’s buddies with Macron I’m amazed he hasn’t made a speech tonight declaring solidarity.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2025
  • #5,385
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Didn’t have you down Dave as a defender of a group that attacks our own military bases, clueless and disrespectful

Tbh it doesn’t even surprise me
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Just on a logical point of order here, if it doesn’t even surprise you then why didn’t you have him down?
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2025
  • #5,386
Grendel said:
Although I wouldn’t agree to it didn’t Starmer say he’d recognise a Palestine State? As he’s buddies with Macron I’m amazed he hasn’t made a speech tonight declaring solidarity.
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Here you go!

 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2025
  • #5,387
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Didn’t have you down Dave as a defender of a group that attacks our own military bases, clueless and disrespectful

Tbh it doesn’t even surprise me
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How did you not have him down for it while also not being surprised?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2025
  • #5,388
SBT said:
Here you go!

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Someone needs to tell Keir about the need for grown up politics.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2025
  • #5,389
SBT said:
Here you go!

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Will he be simultaneously using the RAF planes doing surveillance for Isreal to also evacuate children?

The guy is full of shit. Make no mistake he’s Netanyahu’s bitch and belongs in The Hague next to him.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2025
  • #5,390
SBT said:
Here you go!

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*but we're still going to be selling stuff to the Israelis
 
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