Sky Blue Pete
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He isn’t quite doing that
He isn’t quite doing thatHe's a barrister who's advocating breaking the Geneva convention. Fuck voting for this clown at the next GE.
He isn’t quite doing that
I think (and it’s nuanced I know) he supported that Israel had the right to make that decisionHe was on 5live this morning and he totally supported it.
I think (and it’s nuanced I know) he supported that Israel had the right to make that decision
I may be wrong
This is where powerful countries could be doing something by mirroring Russia and China. I’m sure they are behind the scenes
Fair I’d have to listen againA barrister supports the right to break international law that will lead to the deaths of who knows how many children?
He's an imbecile.
He could have supported their right to knock fuck out of Hamas without supporting that.
There is energy but it’s a tiny percentage of what they need.Why are there no energy/water connections with Egypt?
You can listen all you want, but understand what you’re listening to. Read the room, anything right now other than unequivocal support for Israel is like shouting “I love pedo gangs” at an EDL rally.
He can go off on an Owen Jones style rant (who by the way I actually agree with for once, but look how it was received, even if it was angry Owen), but right now he wants to win an election and “being on the side of terrorists” is probably the worst way to do it.
He's just a really poor interviewee, he seems to get caught between natural instinct and the "how to talk like a Westminster politician" training he has had. All he had to say is that Israel has its right to defend itself but has no right to break international law, like any other other country signed up to the Geneva ConventionA barrister supports the right to break international law that will lead to the deaths of who knows how many children?
He's an imbecile.
He could have supported their right to knock fuck out of Hamas without supporting that.
On a connected note Trump apparently blamed Biden yesterday for the Hamas incursions and attacks.View attachment 32099
Israel's foreign minister, Eli Cohen, has shared this picture of a billboard by a road in Israel on X, formerly Twitter.
Alongside it he again wrote the words "thank you Mr President".
It comes as the US is boosting military aid to Israel, with the first plane carrying US arms arriving in southern Israel yesterday evening.
The Israeli army said "advanced ammunition” had arrived at the Nevatim Airbase, and it was "meant to enable significant strikes and preparation for additional scenarios".
Yesterday US President Joe Biden condemned Hamas' unprecedented assault on Israel as “sheer evil”.
The US is also moving an aircraft carrier and a fighter aircraft to the eastern Mediterranean.
this is not going to help matters either, que Iran stepping up there efforts.
He's just a really poor interviewee, he seems to get caught between natural instinct and the "how to talk like a Westminster politician" training he has had. All he had to say is that Israel has its right to defend itself but has no right to break international law, like any other other country signed up to the Geneva Convention
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You don't have to be on the side of the terrorists to express reasonable concern about how Israel reacts, specifically in regard to the siege and cutting water and power.
The EU have done it, representatives of the UN have done it. All quite reasonably stated, so it's quite possible to support Israel against Hamas without it needing to be unequivocal
Starmer could have done it too, but either he believes Israel's actions are acceptable here, or he's too scared to say what he does believe.
I get that he wants to be elected, but either you take what he says here at face value, in which case I think he's supporting something which I consider immoral, or you accept that there's nothing that he won't say to get elected, in which case we don't really know what he does stand for. Neither seems like a good trait for a future leader to me.
Israel's siege of Gaza is illegal, EU says
"Cutting water, cutting electricity, cutting food to a mass of civilian people is against international law," said EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell in Muscat.euobserver.com
Anyway: where ARE Egypt in all this?
Probs my scared of the nuclear power in the regionAnyway: where ARE Egypt in all this?
Not like the Yanks to poke their noses in.View attachment 32099
Israel's foreign minister, Eli Cohen, has shared this picture of a billboard by a road in Israel on X, formerly Twitter.
Alongside it he again wrote the words "thank you Mr President".
It comes as the US is boosting military aid to Israel, with the first plane carrying US arms arriving in southern Israel yesterday evening.
The Israeli army said "advanced ammunition” had arrived at the Nevatim Airbase, and it was "meant to enable significant strikes and preparation for additional scenarios".
Yesterday US President Joe Biden condemned Hamas' unprecedented assault on Israel as “sheer evil”.
The US is also moving an aircraft carrier and a fighter aircraft to the eastern Mediterranean.
this is not going to help matters either, que Iran stepping up there efforts.
Not like the Yanks to poke their noses in.
Scared to get involved as they'd all get shit on like they did before I'd imagineAnyway: where ARE Egypt in all this?
In denial?Anyway: where ARE Egypt in all this?
Very well supported in other conflicts on here
Mercedes cars or huge amounts of weaponry I imagine amongst other stuff.Simplistically Iran is Shia, Egypt is Sunni and as hopefully most know the only thing they like short of hating Jews is hating each other. Hamas is an Iran proxy so there is no love lost there.
About half an hour ago Radio 5 Live had a Lawyer on from the International Law Center in Amsterdam who is supposed to be some sort of expert. You could feel the frustration as the answers seemed both contradictory and depends and when the full facts become available etc.
The specific question of Egypt closing its border was asked and the Lawyer said something on the lines of well that was illegal but so is forced displacement, at that point the interviewer had had enough.
The same time yesterday they had a BBC Journalist on who had been to Gaza recently and mentioned there are tunnels under the Border big enough to drive a Mercedes through. His words. I assume Hamas are not being supplied via Israel, that Israel checks ships coming in so that leaves just one option left.
To suggest when there is a war on you have to supply your enemy is beyond crazy, now if you occupy an area then you do have some responsibility as far as PoWs, Civilians under your control.
The thing is tho, that the average Israeli is a zionist. The majority of Muslims are not terrorists or racists however Israelis are taught from a young age that their country is their holy right.I said the exact same thing when Grendel was trotting out crude generalisations about all Muslims being “generally the most racist”.
This is not about giving any side a free pass, it’s about not slurring and dehumanising millions of people based on the actions of some of the worst members of their community.
Again, I’m not disputing that. I’m disputing your assertion that it makes them “twats”.The thing is tho, that the average Israeli is a zionist. The majority of Muslims are not terrorists or racists however Israelis are taught from a young age that their country is their holy right.
For me, if you support the illegal and inhumane occupation of Palestine because you think it’s your “holy right” then yes you are a major fucking twat. People condemn Islam because they say the Quran teaches Jihadi terrorism but where’s the same treatment for zionism when it’s the Torah telling them it’s THEIR land given to them by GOD?Again, I’m not disputing that. I’m disputing your assertion that it makes them “twats”.
Fucking hell chill out Adolf.For me, if you support the illegal and inhumane occupation of Palestine because you think it’s your “holy right” then yes you are a major fucking twat. People condemn Islam because they say the Quran teaches Jihadi terrorism but where’s the same treatment for zionism when it’s the Torah telling them it’s THEIR land given to them by GOD?
Any chance you’d like to dispute this or we going back to digs when there’s nothing left to say?Fucking hell chill out Adolf.
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He’s a lawyer not understanding lawyer things….. does that not worry you?yawn
We're at the bash starmer stage now
Both the actions of Israel and Hamas are the actions of cunts. There is nothing left to debate so I will leave you this absolute bin fire of a thread that needs locking.
Its only a matter of daysLooks like hezbollah escalation just need the West Bank and it becomes very difficult for Israel
How to say you are an Anti Semite without saying you are an Anti Semite.The thing is tho, that the average Israeli is a zionist. The majority of Muslims are not terrorists or racists however Israelis are taught from a young age that their country is their holy right.
Fucking hell chill out Adolf.
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Nothing like being fucking dramatic is there?Sometimes this feels like a Waffen SS recruiting ground.
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