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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,621
oscillatewildly said:
I know - That lovable Iranian despot regime having an innocent kick about with a bit of fusion.
Seems like you can’t do anything in the Middle East these days.
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Yet somehow it’s fine for Israel to have nuclear weapons.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,622
Sick Boy said:
Yet somehow it’s fine for Israel to have nuclear weapons.
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Not sure we want to go down the road of it being fine to bomb countries who hold nuclear weapons
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,623
I happen to think it was something else that prompted the action, but I'll keep it to myself.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,624
Sick Boy said:
Yet somehow it’s fine for Israel to have nuclear weapons.
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Well, when you are in a region surrounded by sworn enemies you’d kind of want to have the capability for deterrence, wouldn’t you?
Or are you a fan of the one arm tied behind the back scenario?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,625
oscillatewildly said:
Well, when you are in a region surrounded by sworn enemies you’d kind of want to have the capability for deterrence, wouldn’t you?
Or are you a fan of the one arm tied behind the back scenario?
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Ahh yes, the country of peace currently overseeing a casual bit of genocide and bombing another country.

We really are getting into 1984 territory at this point.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,626
Bugsy said:
Not defending either of them here, as I think there both cunts but..

the UN watchdog said Iran was not complying with its nuclear obligations for the first time in almost 20 years.

This has been brewing for a while,.it was always going to escalate.

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Don’t bother engaging with them, they will always find an excuse
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,627
oscillatewildly said:
Well, when you are in a region surrounded by sworn enemies you’d kind of want to have the capability for deterrence, wouldn’t you?
Or are you a fan of the one arm tied behind the back scenario?
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Sure, just let them get away with ethnic cleansing and bombing their neighbours for no reason then.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,628
Sick Boy said:
Ahh yes, the country of peace currently overseeing a casual bit of genocide and bombing another country.

We really are getting into 1984 territory at this point.
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Bombing another country that absolutely hates us and all we stand for, and threatens us and the USA with nuclear weapons, are you really that stupid? Absolutely clueless
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,629
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Bombing another country that absolutely hates us and all we stand for, and threatens us with nuclear weapons, are you really that stupid? Absolutely clueless
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You just parrot stuff you read on Twitter. There’s zero sign of any independent thought going on.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,630
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Sure, just let them get away with ethnic cleansing and bombing their neighbours for no reason then.
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Think there is a reason as to why they have bombed Iran
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,631
wingy said:
I happen to think it was something else that prompted the action, but I'll keep it to myself.
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SBT

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,632
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Don’t bother engaging with them, they will always find an excuse
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The speed with which you edit and delete posts on this thread suggests you’re extremely keen to engage. It’s like watching someone’s extremely strong worldview forming in real time.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,633
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Bombing another country that absolutely hates us and all we stand for, and threatens us and the USA with nuclear weapons, are you really that stupid? Absolutely clueless
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So shall we go and bomb Russia and NK?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,634
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Think there is a reason as to why they have bombed Iran
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The ethnic cleansing’s above board then
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,635
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The ethnic cleansing’s above board then
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Obviously not and I’ve said that multiple times, it has nothing to do with what’s now happening in Iran, it’s low how your trying to use that
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,636
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Obviously not and I’ve said that multiple times, it has nothing to do with what’s now happening in Iran, it’s low how your trying to use that
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It fits with the habits of the war criminal Netanyahu regime. Iran was pre-Trump complying with the nuclear deal, it was also attempting to engage in dialogue now.

Israel deserves to be a pariah state.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,637
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Sure, just let them get away with ethnic cleansing and bombing their neighbours for no reason then.
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What’s that got to do with the subtext of nuclear capability and its justification for ownership?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,638
oscillatewildly said:
What’s that got to do with the subtext of nuclear capability and its justification for ownership?
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That they don’t appear to need a deterrent considering how they wage aggression on their neighbours anyway.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,639
Bugsy said:
Not defending either of them here, as I think there both cunts but..

the UN watchdog said Iran was not complying with its nuclear obligations for the first time in almost 20 years.

This has been brewing for a while,.it was always going to escalate.

Trump-Iran live: 'Death to America' chants in Tehran - as Iran hits out at Trump's 'unacceptable' remarks about supreme leader

Donald Trump lashed out at Iran's supreme leader over claims Tehran won the war against Israel. But Iran's foreign minister warned the US president about his "disrespectful and unacceptable tone". Follow live and listen to Trump 100 below.
news.sky.com
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Ah yes I’m sure compliance with the UN was top of mind for Israel. Can’t stand seeing people disobey the UN that lot.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 13, 2025
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,641
So will this cause WW3 Or what?
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,642
Saddlebrains said:
So will this cause WW3 Or what?
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No it won’t
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,643
oscillatewildly said:
Well, when you are in a region surrounded by sworn enemies you’d kind of want to have the capability for deterrence, wouldn’t you?
Or are you a fan of the one arm tied behind the back scenario?
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They are only in a region surrounded by sworn enemies because they've done absolutely everything they can to make it so. They are a jewish supremacist state and they hate Arabs.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,644
SkyBlueDom26 said:
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Iran made a deal with Obama. Trump ripped it up.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,645
fernandopartridge said:
They are only in a region surrounded by sworn enemies because they've done absolutely everything they can to make it so. They are a jewish supremacist state and they hate Arabs.
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Hmmmmm. Weren’t hostilities directed at them from the moment the state was established?
In fact I’m pretty certain the British, French and Americans were fending off violent attacks from Arabs in the years preceding its state settlement.
I’m not so sure the situation has always been as one sided as you would like to portray
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,646
oscillatewildly said:
Hmmmmm. Weren’t hostilities directed at them from the moment the state was established?
In fact I’m pretty certain the British, French and Americans were fending off violent attacks from Arabs in the years preceding its state settlement.
I’m not so sure the situation has always been as one sided as you would like to portray
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The state was established by stealing land then kicking out the people who lived there first.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,647
Was the catalyst for this Romanian Muslims??
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,648
Speaking to my best man, says his aunt was a colleague of some of the nuclear scientists killed.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,649
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The state was established by stealing land then kicking out the people who lived there first.
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Oooh, hang on then - I’m getting vibes of Brits getting angry over foreigners being afforded accommodation when they are not.
Is that not allowed? Just OK in the Middle East at the tail end of the 1940’s?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,650
oscillatewildly said:
Oooh, hang on then - I’m getting vibes of Brits getting angry over foreigners being afforded accommodation when they are not.
Is that not allowed? Just OK in the Middle East at the tail end of the 1940’s?
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Sorry what?
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,651
SkyBlueDom26 said:
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Trump the peacemaker.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,652
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Sorry what?
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No worries, just read it again.
As well as your own reasoning as to why aggression was directed at Jews in the first place.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,653
PVA said:
Trump the peacemaker.
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He is, time for Iran to make a choice
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 13, 2025
  • #4,654
oscillatewildly said:
No worries, just read it again.
As well as your own reasoning as to why aggression was directed at Jews in the first place.
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Not Jews, Israel.
 
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Jun 13, 2025
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oscillatewildly said:
Oooh, hang on then - I’m getting vibes of Brits getting angry over foreigners being afforded accommodation when they are not.
Is that not allowed? Just OK in the Middle East at the tail end of the 1940’s?
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I don't really see how the two are comparable, Arab reaction to successive waves of Jewish immigration in the 20s and 30s was in part fuelled by Zionist views that the current inhabitants should be moved on the create room for a Jewish state. Nothing remotely like that is happening in modern day Britain.

The roots of the Israel-Palestine conflict do indeed go very deep and there have been atrocities on both sides. Personally i don't see much hope of this being resolved at any point soon, the sides seem far too entrenched and the escalation of violence from Israel never achieves much other than radicalising yet another generation of opponents.

Pretty fucking miserable really.
 
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