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oucho

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #246
Can anyone tell me

a) if MAF has been released early, when was his deal due to expire?

and

b) the club have taken out the option on Stokes, but he doesn't appear on the list of contracted players. Why not?
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #247
covcity4life said:
jesus people are acting like hes the greatest player to ever pull ont he sky blue shirt!

he got rid because he clearly thinks he can get better
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So to you stating "still surprised" equates to greatest player ever to put on a sky blue shirt?

Fair enough.

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Speedies_Chips

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #248
ccfchoi87 said:
Over the season he's proven to be our most consistent centre half and arguably our best. We have kept ricketts over him and we will still have to try and sign 2-3 centre backs better than Martin. People questioning that decision are justified but only time will tell as to whether it's the right call.
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yes, Martin may have been consistent and yes he has definitely improved, but it doesnt take a genius to see that every time a free kick is put into the box or the opposition have a corner, we look like conceding.

So TM has probably decided that keeping Martin will not change that, and that he needs to go out and get a couple of big ugly physical centre halves. His job is to improve the team and as far as I can see , that is what he is trying to do.
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #249
makes you wonder if his release is also connected to why he dodnt play at oldham
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 10, 2016
  • #250
oucho said:
Can anyone tell me

a) if MAF has been released early, when was his deal due to expire?

and

b) the club have taken out the option on Stokes, but he doesn't appear on the list of contracted players. Why not?
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HIs deal would expire at the end of the season (usually June)

Yes, Stokes is staying.
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #251
skybluesam66 said:
makes you wonder if his release is also connected to why he dodnt play at oldham
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Almost certainly.

Martin claimed dizziness on the coach I read I think. What a cop out from him but then cant blame him if he has been told to do one. Understandable.
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #252
Fortune may be off somewhere where the season is currently going like Cole did.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #253
torchomatic said:
So to you stating "still surprised" equates to greatest player ever to put on a sky blue shirt?

Fair enough.

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is there ANYTHING you do not take offence too? jesus
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #254
Who's taking offence?

covcity4life said:
is there ANYTHING you do not take offence too? jesus
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #255
Jesus, apparently.
 
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LB87ccfc

Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #256
Re Martin release - Can we remember this would of been a two way street, just because it says Martin has been released, it could of been Martin instigating from the start by saying he wants to move on, try pastures new, move location, family not happy in the midlands, their are numerous factors that come into play.

From a playing perspective, Im pretty sure Martin would of been out of the team had Cargill stayed fit, and I do not believe he was TM's cup of tea.

We also conceded far too many from set pieces last season ( at least 10-12 goals) so maybe TM felt he could afford to lose Martin ( who would of been on a fair wage after coming from Saints), TM maybe feels he can get better value for money.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #257
LB87ccfc said:
Re Martin release - Can we remember this would of been a two way street, just because it says Martin has been released, it could of been Martin instigating from the start by saying he wants to move on, try pastures new, move location, family not happy in the midlands, their are numerous factors that come into play.

From a playing perspective, Im pretty sure Martin would of been out of the team had Cargill stayed fit, and I do not believe he was TM's cup of tea.

We also conceded far too many from set pieces last season ( at least 10-12 goals) so maybe TM felt he could afford to lose Martin ( who would of been on a fair wage after coming from Saints), TM maybe feels he can get better value for money.
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dont be silly mate, we can only assume he was banging TM missus because no way he could be allowed to leave based on footballing reasons!
 
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BoomShanka

Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #258
1st signing announced at 5pm. Guessing it's one of the ones offered contract. Ricketts my guess.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 10, 2016
  • #259
Is it new signing or existing?
 
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BoomShanka

Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #260
Nick said:
Is it new signing or existing?
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It doesn't say. Be surprised if it's a completely new signing this quick.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 10, 2016
  • #261
BoomShanka said:
It doesn't say. Be surprised if it's a completely new signing this quick.
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Just know whether to be excited or not
 
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BoomShanka

Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #262
Nick said:
Just know whether to be excited or not
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Or not is my guess!
 
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ccfchoi87

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #263
Jodi Jones is my guess
 
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BoomShanka

Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #264
Jodi Jones! Ha ha! Glad he's signed though. Another player to get you on your feet.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 10, 2016
  • #265
Just made a thread for him
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #266
great start
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #267
Covskyblue said:
I have found this , it may be of interest sorry it's not upto date but seems to be quite specific so can only presume it is accurate for C Thomas and Fleck.


http://sportsearning.com/2013/04/29/coventry-city-fc-players-salary-list/
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Surely this comment is some kind of joke I'm missing?

This website list academy no hopers like Josh Ruffels and Shaun Jeffers as on 10,000 euros a week.

Its about as reliable as me making up a load of random salaries.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #268
chiefdave said:
I would definitely have kept Martin. I hope its not another falling out. If it is so soon after JOB that would be a worry. Never a good sign when the manager falls out with multiple players.
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Don't think Mowbray really fell out for JOB, I don't see Mowbray as the type to have bust ups with his players or heated arguments. With JOB I think Mowbray was happy with what JOB was contributing but JOB wasn't happy he was being rotated as well as living far from his family so asked to leave and Mowbray said ok fine.

With Martin, he's done a job for Mowbray this year but Mowbray doesn't think he is good enough so let him go. If we didn't have so many injuries in defence this year I think Martin probably wouldn't have been in the team for most of the season.
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • May 10, 2016
  • #269
torchomatic said:
Who's taking offence?
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No idea but just noticed your new signature. Like it (even if it was Kieron who said it )
 
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Covskyblue

Active Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #270
CCFC said:
Surely this comment is some kind of joke I'm missing?

This website list academy no hopers like Josh Ruffels and Shaun Jeffers as on 10,000 euros a week.

Its about as reliable as me making up a load of random salaries.
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No, not a joke I didn't look at any wages other than Fleck and Thomas.

Curious as to why something so comprehensive would be completely fabricated.

If I remember correctly Ruffels and Jeffers were talked up quite a bit before even the likes of Wilson. The wages for both do seem excessive but who knows ?! Perhaps the same people who negotiated David Bell's obscene contract.

I'm not stating the information as fact just sharing it with others, feel free to make your own mind up.

Thanks..... I won't bother posting next time


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ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #271
CCFC said:
Surely this comment is some kind of joke I'm missing?

This website list academy no hopers like Josh Ruffels and Shaun Jeffers as on 10,000 euros a week.

Its about as reliable as me making up a load of random salaries.
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Better off using FM as a guide on wages
 
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tom88

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #272
CCFC said:
Surely this comment is some kind of joke I'm missing?

This website list academy no hopers like Josh Ruffels and Shaun Jeffers as on 10,000 euros a week.

Its about as reliable as me making up a load of random salaries.
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Josh Ruffels that's just been promoted to our league?

Website is bullshit though
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • May 10, 2016
  • #273
pipkin73 said:
Unless their career is on the way down they are not likley to accept a reduced offer.
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You're saying that Martin and Thomas are going to walk into the same contract elsewhere?

If so, then good luck to them...
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #274
Deleted member 5849 said:
You're saying that Martin and Thomas are going to walk into the same contract elsewhere?

If so, then good luck to them...
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Depends what there wages were.

I wish there was a way of finding out how much each player earns.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • May 10, 2016
  • #275
ccfc92 said:
Depends what there wages were.

I wish there was a way of finding out how much each player earns.
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Given the claims are they were on too much for us, and that's justification for Martin being released...

If they're out of contract and the manager wants to keep them, there's nothing stopping the manager offering them whatever he sees fit - the player doesn't have to accept, after all. The fact he hasn't bothered suggests the previous wages of their previous contract is an utter irrelevance to the decision.
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #276
Just a quick repost -

We won't get any compensation for the young released players will we? As we haven't offered contracts?

I know it wouldn't be much, but every little helps etc.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #277
ccfc92 said:
Just a quick repost -

We won't get any compensation for the young released players will we? As we haven't offered contracts?

I know it wouldn't be much, but every little helps etc.
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Yes, that is correct. They have to have been offered and rejected a new deal to be eligible for compo.

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ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #278
stupot07 said:
Yes, that is correct. They have to have been offered and rejected a new deal to be eligible for compo.

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Cheers

I suppose it's only really Phillips who's going that we've "Developed", so not much compensation I guess.

Sambou should get us a fair bit hopefully though.
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #279
Just seen mcglashen at gillingham is free? He ripped us a new one a year or two ago.

Also kyel Reid is free from Preston released he ripped us apart when playing for Bradford.

2 great wingers there for free
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2016
  • #280
Wouldn't mind Reid, just a shame he can't cross, but his pace was frightening!
 
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