Gynnsthetonic
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A bit like the railway subway at the Ricoh, think your making excuses, it isn't that great to exit the Ricoh!
A bit like the railway subway at the Ricoh, think your making excuses, it isn't that great to exit the Ricoh!don't know how many times I have to say it, there's hardly any pedestrian access! You're right about parking, plenty of options near by but 5,000 people trying to get under the railway bridge exit into Sovereign Road has the potential for some serious health and safety issues. This isn't insurmountable but again, are the parties involved willing to get together to both solve and fund these issues.
I think you should read some of OSBs posts. Wasps don't need us at the Ricoh, we're not in a strong negotiating position.I've been away out of touch but having read this stuff through I think there is no possibility we will be going to the BPA any time soon. I said it long ago there simply is not the capacity to grow a big city club there. This club will get out of league 1 even with SISU in charge. In the Championship and beyond we will need capacity. The Ricoh is still the obvious choice. We are in a strong position there tbh. Wasp can not survive there long term without a supporting tenant in my opinion. Time will come when we are the focus there with 30k crowds and the pressure on Wasp to deal with 'ownership' rights will crop up again and again...particularly if we have new owners and are sitting in the Premier league or even holding steady in the Championship.They need us now and we can and should find a way to work together and believe ultimately they will.
The alternative is some sort of home at the BPA while we wait and see Wasp struggle with overhead. Then come pouncing back and try to win the Ricoh deal back...really? Even SISU can't be thinking of going down that kind of road again. The light in the tunnel has been on this last twelve months. TM and MV - finally a proper management team, we very nearly joined in the fun of promotion. SISU I believe will encourage them with one of the best budgets in the league this coming season (it doesn't take much to do that in league 1) and I honestly believe we will get promoted. 30k at the Ricoh come April time is not unlikely as fans interest peaks. And that's what we are as a club folks. We are not (I hope) going to condemn ourselves to the BPA and step backwards in time and start acting like we never were a premier league outfit for 34 years prior to our dramatic slide. If it were my business I would keep us at the Ricoh and aim for promotions. Let the rest take care of itself as the success accumulates. It was always going to be difficult for WASP to sustain the Ricoh and keep it for their sole use while ignoring a one team big city football club standing on the sidelines. For that they were naive and the council at the time stupid.
don't know how many times I have to say it, there's hardly any pedestrian access! You're right about parking, plenty of options near by but 5,000 people trying to get under the railway bridge exit into Sovereign Road has the potential for some serious health and safety issues. This isn't insurmountable but again, are the parties involved willing to get together to both solve and fund these issues.
A bit like the railway subway at the Ricoh, think your making excuses, it isn't that great to exit the Ricoh!
I think I'm missing something here. Why is everyone going under a railway bridge? Looking on Google Maps one side of the ground would come out onto Butts Road and another onto Butts Park.
Don't we only have a tunnel, and further down a bridge for everyone coming from that side of the Ricoh?
15000 progress?Well obviously, both scenarios are closely linked. I think I would rather listen to those involved than those like you, who are not.
As I said, might not happen. I for one, hope it does. I think the Club needs it to progress and to get its identity back.
I think you should read some of OSBs posts. Wasps don't need us at the Ricoh, we're not in a strong negotiating position.
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They need us sooooo much that they are refusing to negotiate and have not moved on any single point.
And Pax... there is more than one Wasp.
Read Jan's post about Wasps, Ricoh and revenue on the SCG thread. There is no chance we are going to get a better deal. No chance of increased revenues. Without increased revenues then bargain basement players and selling of anyone decent who comes through the ranks. That is what our future will be if we stay and stagnate at the Ricoh. I don't want that, which is why I am hoping the BPA thing comes off. Yes, it will be a smaller capacity at the start but history shows we wouldn't sell that out very often. They talk of increasing capacity if we were successful, sounds good to me.
We do have two choices. You've made yours, I've made mine. However, it won't be up to us what happens anyway.
I do believe that Rugby JS wants to get things done. How big a stadium he actually needs for the Rugby Club alone is a question.
To base, or partly base your opinion on "talk" from "Rugby JS" is surely a little naive?
It seems you believe "talk" when it suits you. What were the chances of that?
So, the negotiations are over. Is that a fact? Where did you get that information? If so, we have 2 years to solve all problems and get a stadium with a two tier stand and sunken pitch built - with the cooperation of people we are war with. The plans will have to be put in very quickly to achieve that. If this is going to go ahead, we can expect an announcement within 3 weeks.
There are always options, maybe not soon enough for 2 years time, but there are always options.So you keep telling us but we have no other choice but to stay at the Ricoh. Do you accept this?
I disagree.I think you should read some of OSBs posts. Wasps don't need us at the Ricoh, we're not in a strong negotiating position.
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Well its the chicken and the egg really. the Ricoh is the only sensible option for a club the size of CCFC. That said any options that crop up are to be explored of course. But I'd rather see off the current owners who will not invest heavily enough to secure any stadium of the capacity needed going forward. Sit tight, negotiate further with WASP who will be glad of a tenant such as CCFC regardless of what many believe and see what comes our way.There are always options, maybe not soon enough for 2 years time, but there are always options.
I accept that we will need to stay at the Ricoh longer than 2 years, but I don't accept thah long term this is our only option.
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There are always options, maybe not soon enough for 2 years time, but there are always options.
I accept that we will need to stay at the Ricoh longer than 2 years, but I don't accept thah long term this is our only option.
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The chap from CRFC said that if they lowered the pitch they could build bigger stands. Not sure how that works to be honest as unless you're overhanging the pitch how can you get any closer?What's the sunken pitch everybody keeps mentioning ?
The odds are that as there is a building right at the side of where they want to build they would be limited to what height they could build to. There is a right to light law amongst others that planning would have to get past. So if they started below ground level they would manage to get a bigger stand for the height allowed.The chap from CRFC said that if they lowered the pitch they could build bigger stands. Not sure how that works to be honest as unless you're overhanging the pitch how can you get any closer?
Its now a fact that it has to happen to get a decent capacity and will cost the GDP of a small country to do.
That would be "Bob Latchford"What's the sunken pitch everybody keeps mentioning ?
The odds are that as there is a building right at the side of where they want to build they would be limited to what height they could build to. There is a right to light law amongst others that planning would have to get past. So if they started below ground level they would manage to get a bigger stand for the height allowed.
Already been beaten to it. Google Doha Wall Stadium. Its done a really odd way though, it's 11K capacity but has a footprint of a far bigger stadium.We could have the first underground stadium if we have to dig down deep
Call in Tony Robinson and his time team, tell em the BPA
Is built on an ancient monastic burial site, they'll have it
dug out in know time.
I dig your enthusiasm' sir' !I'll dig the fucker out myself if it means we can move on!
I'll dig the fucker out myself if it means we can move on!
I will chisel the headstone now for you.
Here lies Samo in his sunken crypt. He dug so deep he finally slipped. A thousand spades for 25,000 souls, futile effort for pointless holes.
Well you're no Byron Otis but very good nonetheless! Will you not be helping?
JS at CRFC has stated inTo base, or partly base your opinion on "talk" that "sounds good" is at best naive. How much talk - from all parties in this disaster - have we heard? Where are we now as a result of talk? Up until now we have heard nothing more than talk. I do believe that Rugby JS wants to get things done. How big a stadium he actually needs for the Rugby Club alone is a question. Having CCFC will mean a bigger stadium, but more problems in getting things done. I am still waiting to see the costings and proposed revenues - and how the revenues are shared between the Rugby club, their investors, SISU's investors and the club.
The chap from CRFC said that if they lowered the pitch they could build bigger stands. Not sure how that works to be honest as unless you're overhanging the pitch how can you get any closer?
Its now a fact that it has to happen to get a decent capacity and will cost the GDP of a small country to do.
The chap from CRFC said that if they lowered the pitch they could build bigger stands. Not sure how that works to be honest as unless you're overhanging the pitch how can you get any closer?
Its now a fact that it has to happen to get a decent capacity and will cost the GDP of a small country to do.
Like Crewe Alexandre?If the pitch was turned 90 degrees at BPA. We could do a (Old Trafford Sir Alex Ferguson North Stand job) I know that stand holds 25.5k but no reason why not enough room to build a 8-10k stand out towards the main road. leaving another 3 stands holding approx 12-15k between them. Thoughts...
Yes mate, very similar to Old Trafford, but not as big lolLike Crewe Alexandre?
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