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Is it time to seriously consider leaving the RICOH? (6 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Jimmy Hill's Chin
  • Start date Feb 23, 2013
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Jimmy Hill's Chin

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  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #1
The players appear to hate playing at the stadium, the atmosphere is awful given the fact that it is normally 70 per cent empty and it is an albatross around the club's neck financially. Perhaps time to play elsewhere (not sure where though, possibly a groundshare with Northampton?) until we can get out of this division and then see if ACL will have us back once we return to the Championship.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #2
No. Next question?
 
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Jimmy Hill's Chin

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #3
rob9872 said:
No. Next question?
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Why is it not worth debating? At the moment the Ricoh is undoubtedly negatively impacting on our fortunes on and off the pitch. In an ideal world it would be a theatre of football - it is a fine stadium which would grace the Premiership - but does it really suit our club's needs and has it not become a hindrance?
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #4
no we just need to have some investment in it! it snt our home at the moment as we are lodgers, we need to have a ground we own and we love. Sadly the Ricoh has been synonymous with our decline.
 

TheRoyalScam

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #5
Tied into a long-term contract, JHC.....then again it's currently rent-free
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #6
Can debate it all night if yiu wish, but its not a realistic proposition in our current sposition so we should channel energy elsewhere. There are ways of making it better buyt nobody seems willing to take tough decisiobs to move supporters and close a stand like v preston.
 

par1sons

New Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #7
Jimmy Hill's Chin said:
The players appear to hate playing at the stadium, the atmosphere is awful given the fact that it is normally 70 per cent empty and it is an albatross around the club's neck financially. Perhaps time to play elsewhere (not sure where though, possibly a groundshare with Northampton?) until we can get out of this division and then see if ACL will have us back once we return to the Championship.
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I hate the echo. Never wanted to leave highfield road. The echo is just that, an echo. We need a 15k stadium with a view to extend if ever that was required.
 

ccfctommy

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #8
And play where?
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #9
par1sons said:
I hate the echo. Never wanted to leave highfield road. The echo is just that, an echo. We need a 15k stadium with a view to extend if ever that was required.
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I think we all agree but it ain't going to happen so get over it
 
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Jimmy Hill's Chin

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  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #10
Could we not come to some arrangement where we return to the Ricoh if we get promoted to the Championship? One other factor is that teams raise there game when they come to the Ricoh as it is clearly the best stadium in League One. A bit like opposition teams always used to win against England in Test matches at Lords as it inspired the opposition. We need a fortress not a cathedral.
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

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  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #11
Based on Home form V's Away for this year the OP might pose a valid question?... my son and I have only been to two away games Spurs and Crewe JPT this year so are not best qualified to give a robust view but a question to those more travelled than us this year is; Fundamentally is there a huge difference in the way we set up or play Home V's Away? Or is it just the fact that at home we push on and get caught on the break whereas away our set up is based on the counter attack and Home teams force the play?
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #12
just a freak season imo as the groundvwasvstill relatively empty last season and we were shite away
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #13
When the club is finally stable off the pitch the Ricoh will be an asset. Come the summer when we will be trying to sign players, the club can tell the players that our highest attendence this season was over 31k, now how many league 1 clubs can say that?

The Ricoh is the only thing that seperates us from the rest of the small clubs in this league.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #14
The biggest issue for me isn't the ground, it's that as a big club we are expected to win at home. Sides put men behind the ball, time-waste and set up to counter attack us and exploit our weakness at set pieces and it works like a dream-the longer a game goes by without us in the lead, the more the fans get on the players backs, we lose cohesion, commit men forwards leaving space, and the sucker-punch gets us time after bloody time.

Away from home, there is more onus on the opposition to attack and we have the quality to exploit the significantly greater space in their defence-and don't need to commit our men forwards so much leading to exposure (notably the full-backs).


It has absolutely nothing to do with us not owning the ground.




Or the players not being able to see each other because of the seats :facepalm:
 

coundonskyblue

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  • Feb 23, 2013
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Nonleagueherewecome said:
The biggest issue for me isn't the ground, it's that as a big club we are expected to win at home. Sides put men behind the ball, time-waste and set up to counter attack us and exploit our weakness at set pieces and it works like a dream-the longer a game goes by without us in the lead, the more the fans get on the players backs, we lose cohesion, commit men forwards leaving space, and the sucker-punch gets us time after bloody time.

Away from home, there is more onus on the opposition to attack and we have the quality to exploit the significantly greater space in their defence-and don't need to commit our men forwards so much leading to exposure (notably the full-backs).


It has absolutely nothing to do with us not owning the ground.




Or the players not being able to see each other because of the seats :facepalm:
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Thats exactly the point, we can't play against teams who just defend. Until we do that we won't progress at home.
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #16
The match finished nearly two hours ago...so unless you're sweeping up I'd say yes...time to go home now.
 
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Speedo

New Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #17
Jimmy Hill's Chin said:
Could we not come to some arrangement where we return to the Ricoh if we get promoted to the Championship? One other factor is that teams raise there game when they come to the Ricoh as it is clearly the best stadium in League One. A bit like opposition teams always used to win
against England in Test matches at Lords as it
inspired the opposition. We need a fortress notcathedral.
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I think most fans do not likevthe ricoh.
i dont.
But we are stuck with it i am afraid. Take of the rose tinted glasses,get over highfield road.
If you love it so much buy a flat there
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #18
I like it better than Nene Park or a field somewhere in Warwickshire...
 
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Speedo

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  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #19
Nonleagueherewecome said:
I like it better than Nene Park or a field somewhere in Warwickshire...
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Field ,really?
 
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Sba180

Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #20
yes. but be careful what you wish for. SISU are reportedly planning alternative venues to play in but are not in coventry. if they want anywhere then why would brandon stadium not be an option?
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #21
Jimmy Hill's Chin said:
Why is it not worth debating? At the moment the Ricoh is undoubtedly negatively impacting on our fortunes on and off the pitch. In an ideal world it would be a theatre of football - it is a fine stadium which would grace the Premiership - but does it really suit our club's needs and has it not become a hindrance?
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It's not worth debating.

Not if it means us moving miles away from Coventry.

It would be a disaster.
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #22
halftimebovril said:
yes. but be careful what you wish for. SISU are reportedly planning alternative venues to play in but are not in coventry. if they want anywhere then why would brandon stadium not be an option?
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I doubt the Bees would like turf on their track.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #23
Or anyone on their turf!
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #24
rob9872 said:
No. Next question?
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^^^^^^ what he said
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #25
The Ricoh Arena isn't some cursed ground that's making us play poorly. Home fans whining that the ball should be hammered forward as soon as is humanly possible and groaning if a pass misses its target doesn't help however.
 
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1884

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  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #26
It's worth considering moving away the Ricoh is a burden to us we have to remember we are not the club we were or ever will be again . We appear to have found our level . So lets get a smaller ground to match
 

ajsccfc

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  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #27
Lets get some rocket cars too.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #28
1884 said:
It's worth considering moving away the Ricoh is a burden to us we have to remember we are not the club we were or ever will be again . We appear to have found our level . So lets get a smaller ground to match
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Yes we've found SISU's level ,lets anchor our selves to it
 
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Ashdown1

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  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #29
The only criticism anyone could level at the Ricoh at the moment is the awful state of the pitch. I thought we had a percentage of artificial fibre woven into the grass to prevent it going so bald !?
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #30
1884 said:
It's worth considering moving away the Ricoh is a burden to us we have to remember we are not the club we were or ever will be again . We appear to have found our level . So lets get a smaller ground to match
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One season in league 1 and its our level?

Of the 93 years we've been in the league 75% of it is in the top two divisions. So this certainly is not our level.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 23, 2013
  • #31
par1sons said:
I hate the echo. Never wanted to leave highfield road. The echo is just that, an echo. We need a 15k stadium with a view to extend if ever that was required.
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It would take years to obtain planning permission and then to physically build. It's a total nonsense suggestion.
 
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skybluehugh

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  • Feb 24, 2013
  • #32
Otis, that one deserves your avatar:claping hands::claping hands::claping hands:
 

deanocity3

New Member
  • Feb 24, 2013
  • #33
should have been at HR between 1981-83,matches aver 11,000,and one match v Arsenal only 9,000 turned up.all seater out in the cold,JH was chairman too.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 24, 2013
  • #34
I was there. Had an ST in the roofless Spion Kop seats.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 24, 2013
  • #35
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It would take years to obtain planning permission and then to physically build. It's a total nonsense suggestion.
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It's fine though, cos the grand opening in 3 years time will coincide with David Bell's return to fitness.

Will be a double celebration.
 
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