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Theonlywayisskyblue · May 21, 2024

BBC website reporting:
Burnley manager Vincent Kompany, 38, is among the possible candidates to replace Thomas Tuchel at Bayern Munich. (Fabrizio Romano), external

Kompany would be interested in taking over after emerging as a surprise candidate for the role. (Talksport), external

Bayern have held initial talks with the Belgian, whose Burnley side were relegated from the Premier League this season. (Sky Sports Germany)

Hobo · May 21, 2024

Robins to Burnley then?

Terry Gibson's perm · May 21, 2024

Hope he goes as it will weaken them

PVA · May 21, 2024

I think he's a good manager for a certain style and type of team, I just don't think he's suited to manage a team fighting at the bottom of the league.

I think he'll take Burnley straight back up if he stays.

lord_garrincha · May 21, 2024

If Burnley had won every game that they lost, they would have deservedly won the Prem... great manager!

WestEndAgro · May 21, 2024

Don't get this nonsense that he's a great manager, what's this based on? I'd have taken Burnley up last season, they've been a total cluster fuck this time round.

SIR ERNIE · May 21, 2024

PVA said:
I think he's a good manager for a certain style and type of team, I just don't think he's suited to manage a team fighting at the bottom of the league.

I think he'll take Burnley straight back up if he stays.

So he's only good if he's managing a good team then.

PVA · May 21, 2024

SIR ERNIE said:
So he's only good if he's managing a good team then.

Well no, but there's a reason why Neil Warnock has never managed Barcelona and Pep has never managed Notts County.

Danceswithhorses · May 21, 2024

Was it Anderlecht where he started out as (player/) manager ?
He was hopeless with them, and fell on his feet joining burnley + with cash to spend.
Bayern interest seems ludicrous.

skyblueelephant76 · May 21, 2024

Danceswithhorses said:
Was it Anderlecht where he started out as (player/) manager ?
He was hopeless with them, and fell on his feet joining burnley + with cash to spend.
Bayern interest seems ludicrous.

In his last season at Anderlecht he finished 3rd and got them to the cup final - I wouldn't call that hopeless.

PVA · May 21, 2024

Danceswithhorses said:
Was it Anderlecht where he started out as (player/) manager ?
He was hopeless with them, and fell on his feet joining burnley + with cash to spend.
Bayern interest seems ludicrous.

Huh?

In the two seasons before he took over they finished 6th and 8th.

They finished 3rd and 4th with him in charge.

Then he left and they finished 11th.

ovduk78 · May 21, 2024

PVA said:
Huh?

In the two seasons before he took over they finished 6th and 8th.

They finished 3rd and 4th with him in charge.

Then he left and they finished 11th.

He was also left with lots of academy players after a clear out. Now they are a couple of years older Anderlecht have challenged for the title this season.
Having said that with the squad and budget Burnley had in the championship most on here could have got them promoted.

Danceswithhorses · May 21, 2024

PVA said:
Huh?
In the two seasons before he took over they finished 6th and 8th.
They finished 3rd and 4th with him in charge.
Then he left and they finished 11th.

Upon arrival, he took 2 points from his first 4 games, their worst start for 21 years, and relinquished the managerial side with them 13th in the league (out of 16) to concentrate as a player, with Simon Davies taking on coach/managerial duties.
Fair enough, when he retired as a player and took over again, they finished 4th and 3rd...is that good for a club the size of Anderlecht ?

Danceswithhorses · May 21, 2024

skyblueelephant76 said:
In his last season at Anderlecht he finished 3rd and got them to the cup final - I wouldn't call that hopeless.

Fair enough, hopeless is a bit strong...maybe 'bang average' ?

PVA · May 21, 2024

Danceswithhorses said:
Upon arrival, he took 2 points from his first 4 games, their worst start for 21 years, and relinquished the managerial side with them 13th in the league (out of 16) to concentrate as a player, with Simon Davies taking on coach/managerial duties.
Fair enough, when he retired as a player and took over again, they finished 4th and 3rd...is that good for a club the size of Anderlecht ?

I'm not sure you can use those 4 games as a stick to beat him with but then say 4th and 3rd isn't very good when they finished 8th and 11th the two seasons either side of him!

Danceswithhorses · May 21, 2024

PVA said:
I'm not sure you can use those 4 games as a stick to beat him with but then say 4th and 3rd isn't very good when they finished 8th and 11th the two seasons either side of him!

Fair enough, just my opinion.
He and the club clearly felt those 4 games were important, hence his removal as manager.

SIR ERNIE · May 21, 2024

PVA said:
Well no, but there's a reason why Neil Warnock has never managed Barcelona and Pep has never managed Notts County.

There's no evidence so far that Kompany is anything more than an average Championship manager.
Promotion last season was expected.
This season was a disaster.

Covkid1968# · May 21, 2024

He alright but lets face it - he's no Troy Deeney...who is now being linked with the Blues job!! you couldnt make it up

SwanLane · May 21, 2024

Bayern are in a right mess now. Their preferred options turned them down a while ago. Then, with rumours rife that they were thinking of Ralph Ragnick, Hoeness came out and suggested that only a coward would accept the job. Then they did approach Ragnick who told them, in no uncertain terms, to do one.

The next instalment was talk of asking Tuchel to stay on despite all the poison exchanged on both sides. Truly bizarre levels of dysfunctionality on public display.

If they offer the job to Kompany, they are desperate. If he accepts, he’s mad.

I think Harry Kane needs to focus on England if he wants to win anything more than golden boots.

SleepyGinger · May 21, 2024

Seen some Birmingham fans suggesting Robins as their new manager

SBAndy · May 21, 2024

Absolutely wedded to a style of play. That, to me, isn’t a sign of a good coach. Granted they pissed the Championship but you have to adapt to circumstances. He didn’t, didn’t even try. He could, however, make it work at somewhere like Bayern. The style of play he wants is far more suitable for teams who generally have the best technical players. Probably come unstuck in the CL.

FWIW I think we’ll see similar with Leicester next year where a manager isn’t pragmatic when he’s not got the best group of players in the league.

covcity4life · May 21, 2024

Lol grown men saying I would have taken them up as a serious argument

skybluericoh · May 21, 2024

Enzo off to Chelsea the Robins to Festa yeh right!
I hope Enzo stays a Festa then they’ll see just how poor he is. Could do a half decent job at Chelsea though they have more quality, just need some tactical awareness which he would have picked up at Man City

Skybluekyle · May 21, 2024

But if Vincent Kompany leaves Vincent Kompany's Burnley, who would take over from Vincent Kompany at Vincent Kompany's Burnely?

Jeez, I'm off to support London Wasps if we become "somebody's Coventry City"!

Theonlywayisskyblue · May 23, 2024

In 'advanced talks'

Vincent Kompany: Bayern Munich in advanced talks with Burnley over move for manager

Bayern Munich are in advanced talks with Burnley for the shock appointment of Vincent Kompany as their new coach.

www.bbc.co.uk

JoeCCFCPUSB · May 23, 2024

Honestly an insanity move. I cannot believe how a club the size of Bayern are genuinely interested in a Championship level manager.
He has no plan b, that Burnley side were clearly below par but they absolutely could have scraped it and survived had they had a manager that wasn't hell bent on maintaining a philosophy with lower level Premier League players in the Premier League.

If i am Harry Kane, Leroy Sane, Goretzka, Kimmich and the 3 or 4 other elite players at Bayern, i would be speaking to the board about the direction the club is going and my agent to try and see what other options are available. Harry Kane really has 2 more seasons left at the elite level before he drops off, Vincent Kompany for us lot isn't convincing us, so can you imagine how these elite players must be feeling.

Frostie · May 23, 2024

JoeCCFCPUSB said:
Honestly an insanity move. I cannot believe how a club the size of Bayern are genuinely interested in a Championship level manager.
He has no plan b, that Burnley side were clearly below par but they absolutely could have scraped it and survived had they had a manager that wasn't hell bent on maintaining a philosophy with lower level Premier League players in the Premier League.

If i am Harry Kane, Leroy Sane, Goretzka, Kimmich and the 3 or 4 other elite players at Bayern, i would be speaking to the board about the direction the club is going and my agent to try and see what other options are available. Harry Kane really has 2 more seasons left at the elite level before he drops off, Vincent Kompany for us lot isn't convincing us, so can you imagine how these elite players must be feeling.

Would he need a Plan B at Bayern though?
They've obviously seen enough of his Plan A to think it would translate to their squad & ambitions.

JoeCCFCPUSB · May 23, 2024

Frostie said:
Would he need a Plan B at Bayern though?
They've obviously seen enough of his Plan A to think it would translate to their squad & ambitions.

He absolutely would need a plan b,c and d at Bayern, the calibre of manager that historically manages an elite side hasn't got 1 idea of how to play football, this is why Burnley will be playing Championship Football again. Burnley got found out before they had played 1 premier league game, Premier league clubs just watched Kompany's 46 games of the same plan in the Championship and the blueprint was clear an obvious for better Managers equipped with better players.

If i am Harry Kane, i am sitting there knowing deep down my chances of winning something now Kompany is coach are absolutely less and less likely.

SwanLane · May 23, 2024

The signs from Bayern have been quite weird for a few months now. The Tuchel spectacle has been a slow motion car crash. The better players will have been on high alert as it is. Alarm bells will now be ringing.

It may work out ok. There’ll be some automatic respect for him but he’ll need a fast start. If he’s still got the whiff of Burnley’s relegation campaign it will be detected quickly and the situation will turn ugly.

skybluecam · May 24, 2024

People are slagging off the job he did to get Burnley up in the first place - he had to completely rebuild the squad and playing style from Dyche ball to possession based and absolutely tore up the league with it. That's no mean feat.

The rumour is that Bayern still have an eye on Xabi Alonso, but he's said he'll stay at Leverkusen until at least next summer. So they're not willing to offer a long guaranteed contract to a manager now.

Mucca Mad Boys · May 24, 2024

skybluecam said:
People are slagging off the job he did to get Burnley up in the first place - he had to completely rebuild the squad and playing style from Dyche ball to possession based and absolutely tore up the league with it. That's no mean feat.

The rumour is that Bayern still have an eye on Xabi Alonso, but he's said he'll stay at Leverkusen until at least next summer. So they're not willing to offer a long guaranteed contract to a manager now.

Had a lot of money to spend to make that transformation, more than Dyche. In the big leagues, he got 23 points with Burnley this season.

It’s got disaster written all over it. A lot of Pep understudies are being touted for big things, but these coaches rarely hit the heights of their mentors. Enzo Maresca being linked to Chelsea is an odd choice too.

skybluecam · May 24, 2024

Mucca Mad Boys said:
Had a lot of money to spend to make that transformation, more than Dyche. In the big leagues, he got 23 points with Burnley this season.

It’s got disaster written all over it. A lot of Pep understudies are being touted for big things, but these coaches rarely hit the heights of their mentors. Enzo Maresca being linked to Chelsea is an odd choice too.

Burnely had a net negative transfer balance in his first year.

To be fair they've pretty much all done alright so far. Arteta, Kompany, Maresca, Vilanova.

Legia Sky Blue · May 24, 2024

When Burnley came down last time there were plenty on here predicting they would struggle and that Kompany's lack of Championship experience would be a problem for them.

Mucca Mad Boys · May 24, 2024

skybluecam said:
Burnely had a net negative transfer balance in his first year.

To be fair they've pretty much all done alright so far. Arteta, Kompany, Maresca, Vilanova.

The key word being ‘net’. Burnley still had a leading budget for the division so winning the title was not an extraordinary achievement. The litmus test was how Burnley would get on in the Prem and they never looked like staying up.

So for Bayern Munich to hire a coach with that record is baffling. Likewise with Maresca, did what was expected with Leicester but to be linked with the Chelsea job is just silly.

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