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  • Start date May 21, 2015
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 22, 2015
  • #176
To have any ambition above being a league 1 & Championship club yo-yo club, we need to own our own stadium.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #177
Sick Boy said:
Hopefully we will soon here some news on a new ground and some investment and be done with the London rugby club. Hopefully then the Wasps dullards will stop coming on here.
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ointlaugh:
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 22, 2015
  • #178
italiahorse said:
ointlaugh:
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Surprise, surprise...trying to stop any positivity or hope of CCFC being successful in the future. I can't think why you wouldn't want CCFC to move away from Wasps' ground? I guess your pockets would be a touch lighter eh.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #179
Sick Boy said:
Hopefully we will soon here some news on a new ground and some investment and be done with the London rugby club. Hopefully then the Wasps dullards will stop coming on here.
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'Soon be some news' and 'be done with the London rugby club' are years and years apart, you do know that don't you?
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #180
Sick Boy said:
To have any ambition above being a league 1 & Championship club yo-yo club, we need to own our own stadium.
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So Tim tells us.

No doubt there is more chance of reaching the PL with owning our own stadium but CCFC will not be owning a new stadium in the next 10 years at least.
What will be the difference between being at the Wasps Stadium or being at the Sisu Stadium? What incomes can we expect?
Try and seriously have a go at answering it.
I think we need to know this information before we decide to blindly go with a new stadium, or the facade of one.
 
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italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #181
Sick Boy said:
Surprise, surprise...trying to stop any positivity or hope of CCFC being successful in the future. I can't think why you wouldn't want CCFC to move away from Wasps' ground? I guess your pockets would be a touch lighter eh.
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Can't see how Sisu building a stadium, renting it back to CCFC and letting us have an income by negotiating with them is any different.
Unless you think 18,000 seater and outside Coventry is better ?

Your right, I would save money by not going to Rugby to watch them.
 
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LB87ccfc

Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #182
How come every thread on here ends up as an argument about wasps, maybe we should change the forum name
 

Malaka

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #183
rupert_bear said:
Why are football fans different to rugby fans then ? How do they get to the Butts, flying carpets !!
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Far more watch the Sky Blues than Cov, Rugby fans are different ask any middle class snob, hence you take take your beer and watch the Wasps but you cant watch the City, there are a small minded bunch intent on causing trouble (remember Leicester in Earlsdon?) need I go on Rupert?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #184
italiahorse said:
So Tim tells us.

No doubt there is more chance of reaching the PL with owning our own stadium but CCFC will not be owning a new stadium in the next 10 years at least.
What will be the difference be between being at the Wasps Stadium or being at the Sisu Stadium? What incomes can we expect?
Try and seriously have a go at answering it.
I think we need to know this information before we decide to blindly go with a new stadium, or the facade of one.
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I've said this before and I know its hard to grasp after all they've put us through.

I don't think SISU want us to be shit, charging us an extortionate rent and giving the club no revenues would just drive us further down the football pyramid as a result. There's no money to be made by renting out a stadium to a league 2 CCFC team with 6,000 attendances, not to mention any losses that CCFC suffer as a result would then have to be funded by SISU. It doesn't make sense.
There is however money to be made (or at least some recovered) by selling a championship club with a good manager and who have there own stadium.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #185
What is the difference between a rugger supporter and a football supporter?

Watching CCFC comes first for me easily. But if I couldn't watch CCFC and was going to a game as a neutral it would be a rugger game unless going with a mate for a day out who supports a different club. Some rugger supporters go to games where their own club isn't playing because it is a good laugh. Both sides drink together. Both sides can sit together. They get pissed together. It is a laugh from start to finish. The best away days I have ever had is when we get to mix with the home supporters. But it isn't very often. There is no snobbery. I work with more rugger players and supporters than football. If it wasn't for my love of CCFC as a neutral I would watch rugger not football. And I prefer watching football.

But before anyone says it I would never go to a game involving Wasps. I don't think I have to say why because it is bloody obvious.
 
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Woz01

Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #186
There are hight restrictions for buildings around the airport, the factory i work at for example is not allowed to build upwards. Wouldn't that hinder the chances of a stadium being built?
 
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shy_tall_knight

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #187
Baginton is a long way (in relative football ground location terms) from any local population, with hardly any being able to walk to it especially having to negotiate the A46 even after the tunnel has been built there is only 1 access road. unfortunately the "walk up is key" if a 100% need to get their by car or public transport it won't work.
 
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LB87ccfc

Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #188
Astute said:
What is the difference between a rugger supporter and a football supporter?

Watching CCFC comes first for me easily. But if I couldn't watch CCFC and was going to a game as a neutral it would be a rugger game unless going with a mate for a day out who supports a different club. Some rugger supporters go to games where their own club isn't playing because it is a good laugh. Both sides drink together. Both sides can sit together. They get pissed together. It is a laugh from start to finish. The best away days I have ever had is when we get to mix with the home supporters. But it isn't very often. There is no snobbery. I work with more rugger players and supporters than football. If it wasn't for my love of CCFC as a neutral I would watch rugger not football. And I prefer watching football.

But before anyone says it I would never go to a game involving Wasps. I don't think I have to say why because it is bloody obvious.
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But wasn't you seen sneaking into a Wasps match :wave::sarcasm:
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #189
CCFC said:
I've said this before and I know its hard to grasp after all they've put us through.

I don't think SISU want us to be shit, charging us an extortionate rent and giving the club no revenues would just drive us further down the football pyramid as a result. There's no money to be made by renting out a stadium to a league 2 CCFC team with 6,000 attendances, not to mention any losses that CCFC suffer as a result would then have to be funded by SISU. It doesn't make sense.
There is however money to be made (or at least some recovered) by selling a championship club with a good manager and who have there own stadium.
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I agree but I want to see Sisu's figures before I support a move from the Ricoh.
 
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LB87ccfc

Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #190
italiahorse said:
I agree but I want to see Sisu's figures before I support a move from the Ricoh.
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Their will be no stadium, seriously people "stop hanging onto the well it might happen but I dont think it will"
Stop being suckered into arguments of locations and will it work or wont it work.

Their is NO plans not even on the agenda, its all pie in the sky to keep fans on board.

In terms of supporting a move from the Ricoh, we should of never been lead down the garden path by ALL parties involved FFS and it should of been solely used for its main purpose and the reason it was built for, now quite frankly I fucking hate seeing wasps signs everywhere all over the damn place.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #191
LB87ccfc said:
How come every thread on here ends up as an argument about wasps, maybe we should change the forum name
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They are our landlords and comparisons will always be made against the plans of our future landlords.
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #192
Astute said:
What is the difference between a rugger supporter and a football supporter?

Watching CCFC comes first for me easily. But if I couldn't watch CCFC and was going to a game as a neutral it would be a rugger game unless going with a mate for a day out who supports a different club. Some rugger supporters go to games where their own club isn't playing because it is a good laugh. Both sides drink together. Both sides can sit together. They get pissed together. It is a laugh from start to finish. The best away days I have ever had is when we get to mix with the home supporters. But it isn't very often. There is no snobbery. I work with more rugger players and supporters than football. If it wasn't for my love of CCFC as a neutral I would watch rugger not football. And I prefer watching football.

But before anyone says it I would never go to a game involving Wasps. I don't think I have to say why because it is bloody obvious.
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For a minute I thought you were going to say the shape of their balls
 
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LB87ccfc

Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #193
italiahorse said:
They are our landlords and comparisons will always be made against the plans of our future landlords.
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I dont give two shits if their our landlords they have nothing to do with Coventry City Football Club and should of never been allowed to even purchase the damn place.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #194
chiefdave said:
From my extensive research (aka a quick look at Google Maps) I can't really see a potential site for a new stadium anywhere close to the city centre unless something really radical is done and a lot of existing buildings knocked down.
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Put it at Bishopsgate! Let's face it what's planned will never be built. The city centre needs a few buildings knocking down anyway.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #195
LB87ccfc said:
Their will be no stadium, seriously people "stop hanging onto the well it might happen but I dont think it will"
Stop being suckered into arguments of locations and will it work or wont it work.

Their is NO plans not even on the agenda, its all pie in the sky to keep fans on board.

In terms of supporting a move from the Ricoh, we should of never been lead down the garden path by ALL parties involved FFS and it should of been solely used for its main purpose and the reason it was built for, now quite frankly I fucking hate seeing wasps signs everywhere all over the damn place.
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That's why I'm pushing to get our own stuff up in and around the ground.
We have empty walls in the changing rooms and tunnel. Why do people think that is ?
 
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LB87ccfc

Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #196
italiahorse said:
That's why I'm pushing to get our own stuff up in and around the ground.
We have empty walls in the changing rooms and tunnel. Why do people think that is ?
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Because Wasps want to be inferior
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #197
italiahorse said:
That's why I'm pushing to get our own stuff up in and around the ground.
We have empty walls in the changing rooms and tunnel. Why do people think that is ?
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Because we will get charged for memorabilia going up?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #198
italiahorse said:
That's why I'm pushing to get our own stuff up in and around the ground.
We have empty walls in the changing rooms and tunnel. Why do people think that is ?
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Could we offer a group of fans that will turn up early and CCFCify the place? Then stay back and collect it all in? I believe we don't rent the ground for the whole day so it's quite a short timescale I think and would need a bit of manpower to pull off.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 22, 2015
  • #199
italiahorse said:
That's why I'm pushing to get our own stuff up in and around the ground.
We have empty walls in the changing rooms and tunnel. Why do people think that is ?
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Because it is Wasps' stadium? The only thing that concerns you is being out of pocket when CCFC move away and the free tickets aren't given out any more.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 22, 2015
  • #200
Grendel said:
Because we will get charged for memorabilia going up?
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All we need to do it ask nicely.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #201
LB87ccfc said:
I dont give two shits if their our landlords they have nothing to do with Coventry City Football Club and should of never been allowed to even purchase the damn place.
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Sisu should have bought it years ago and wasps should be coming cap in hand to us.
But it didn't happen so we need to get over it. Some will need a larger spoonful of sugar than others.
 
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LB87ccfc

Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #202
Sick Boy said:
All we need to do it ask nicely.
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But their say no and put the rent up 20% then we will say but but then it will be another 20%
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #203
Grendel said:
Because we will get charged for memorabilia going up?
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...... prove it !!
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #204
shmmeee said:
Could we offer a group of fans that will turn up early and CCFCify the place? Then stay back and collect it all in? I believe we don't rent the ground for the whole day so it's quite a short timescale I think and would need a bit of manpower to pull off.
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Sisu need to drive it and supply the materials.
But the changing room is solely ours and the walls are blank unlike the Wasps areas.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 22, 2015
  • #205
italiahorse said:
Sisu should have bought it years ago and wasps should be coming cap in hand to us.
But it didn't happen so we need to get over it. Some will need a larger spoonful of sugar than others.
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larger wad more like
 
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LB87ccfc

Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #206
Are we able to revert back to the Investment rumour as the title of the OP suggests or we still going to discuss fantasy stadiums and wasps?

Can we not at least discuss what it would be like if an investor shown interest, its boring going round in circles.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #207
LB87ccfc said:
But their say no and put the rent up 20% then we will say but but then it will be another 20%
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If they say no then I'll agree with people but I suggest we haven't/can't really ask.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #208
LB87ccfc said:
Are we able to revert back to the Investment rumour as the title of the OP suggests or we still going to discuss fantasy stadiums and wasps?

Can we not at least discuss what it would be like if an investor shown interest, its boring going round in circles.
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Can't we delay it until Sisu say they want to sell otherwise it's fiction.
 
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LB87ccfc

Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #209
italiahorse said:
Can't we delay it until Sisu say they want to sell otherwise it's fiction.
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Like the new stadium then
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2015
  • #210
LB87ccfc said:
Are we able to revert back to the Investment rumour as the title of the OP suggests or we still going to discuss fantasy stadiums and wasps?

Can we not at least discuss what it would be like if an investor shown interest, its boring going round in circles.
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I don't think we need a huge amount to make a difference. We're pretty much breaking even and have a decent amount of Academy kids who can fill in, plus the odd decent pro.

I reckon we need a striker or two, a defensive mid a CB and a goalie. At this level you could do that for less than £3m. You'd see a hell of an increase in ticket and merchandise sales if we were near the top and even more on promotion. I'd say stadium aside we are at a decent place to buy in if the debt isn't going to be an issue. Who knows for around £5m investment you could end up with a stake in a championship side owning it's own ground within a couple of years. That's being optimistic obviously.
 
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