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Jack Griffin · May 24, 2015

CCFC said:
You can go into the some category if you like?

The main culprits on here that spring to mind are italia, dongonzalos, MMM, Jack Griffin and The Gentleman. + more but these seem to be the most frequent.

Apologies to any of the above if you disagree and are offended.

You are sucking up Gredels false propaganda, I challenge you to find any post where I support the council, I might have given some support when they originally bought out the ACL loan, but since then all I've done is state that I felt they had little option than to follow the course they did and that they need show no special favour to CCFC.

In actual fact most of my comments have been attacks on SISU's lack of strategy and poor performance.

Neither have I supported Wasps, though I have definitely noted that their operation is much more professional than CCFC under SISU.

I am offended that you do not check facts and believe the chief shit stirrer.

Mary_Mungo_Midge · May 24, 2015

CCFC said:
You can go into the some category if you like?

The main culprits on here that spring to mind are italia, dongonzalos, MMM, Jack Griffin and The Gentleman. + more but these seem to be the most frequent.

Apologies to any of the above if you disagree and are offended.

Of course I disagree and am offended. How long have you been posting on CCFC forums? Why do people do that? It's because they love the club and want to engage with like minded, fellow fans. I was on LAST before GMK before here. How long is that? 15 years? Maybe more. Of course I care about the club.

I have a different view to you with regards whether CCC have an agenda against, or for the club. Like some on here, the actions of the clubs owners have taken the club too place I now feel disassociated from. I, like some, predicted this route. Almost to the letter.

That does not mean I support CCC. Or Higgs. Or Wasps. Ann Lucas. I support CCFC. I may feel disassociated from the club now, but my support is as deep-seated as that as anyone on here

covmark · May 24, 2015

It's about time this council/Sisu lover stuff was put to bed. No one really is, except maybe for a couple of wums.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · May 24, 2015

I never said anyone doesn't care about the club (at least not in regards to this conversation)

Samo · May 24, 2015

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
Of course I disagree and am offended. How long have you been posting on CCFC forums? Why do people do that? It's because they love the club and want to engage with like minded, fellow fans. I was on LAST before GMK before here. How long is that? 15 years? Maybe more. Of course I care about the club.

I have a different view to you with regards whether CCC have an agenda against, or for the club. Like some on here, the actions of the clubs owners have taken the club too place I now feel disassociated from. I, like some, predicted this route. Almost to the letter.

That does not mean I support CCC. Or Higgs. Or Wasps. Ann Lucas. I support CCFC. I may feel disassociated from the club now, but my support is as deep-seated as that as anyone on here

Did you? Did you predict the return to the Ricoh? Did you predict the sale of ACL to a rugby club? Did you predict the sacking of SP? Did you predict the reappointment of TM?

Mary_Mungo_Midge · May 24, 2015

CCFC said:
I never said anyone doesn't care about the club (at least not in regards to this conversation)

If happens in nearly every thread. And the ironic perversity being that those few who went to Sixfields, and were the most vocal in complaint whenever they were given a name, are now some of the first in the queue to name-call or categorise others now things haven't quite worked out...

Astute · May 24, 2015

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
Of course I disagree and am offended. How long have you been posting on CCFC forums? Why do people do that? It's because they love the club and want to engage with like minded, fellow fans. I was on LAST before GMK before here. How long is that? 15 years? Maybe more. Of course I care about the club.

I have a different view to you with regards whether CCC have an agenda against, or for the club. Like some on here, the actions of the clubs owners have taken the club too place I now feel disassociated from. I, like some, predicted this route. Almost to the letter.

That does not mean I support CCC. Or Higgs. Or Wasps. Ann Lucas. I support CCFC. I may feel disassociated from the club now, but my support is as deep-seated as that as anyone on here

We were laughed at when we said that someone else might come in and take over the Ricoh. We were anti CCFC when we couldn't see SISU winning the JR. The same when we didn't think there was a smoking gun. The same when we didn't believe that there was a stadium being built when they first mentioned it. We were CCC lovers when we said that CCC couldn't afford and wouldn't be able to let SISU have what they wanted. And there is more.

I wish I hadn't been right. But being right doesn't mean that I preferred one side over the other. And if anyone looks back they will see that my preferred way forward was for CCC to keep the Ricoh until SISU had gone. But it looks quite obvious that they won't go until at least the Ricoh thing has come to a final conclusion. Years and years of wasted time and money on needless litigation. So this is why I say that I can see why CCC let it go.

Mary_Mungo_Midge · May 24, 2015

Samo said:
Did you? Did you predict the return to the Ricoh? Did you predict the sale of ACL to a rugby club? Did you predict the sacking of SP? Did you predict the reappointment of TM?

Don't be a twat. I did ask the question as to where CCFC would be placed if the Sixfields farce gave rise to a rugby club making the Ricoh it's home. Just because you got your knickers in a twist in the other thread, don't bring your fragile ego onto here. Or have you arrived to start a healthcare tombola questions and answers debate on celebrities state of health?

Samo · May 24, 2015

Astute said:
We were laughed at when we said that someone else might come in and take over the Ricoh. We were anti CCFC when we couldn't see SISU winning the JR. The same when we didn't think there was a smoking gun. The same when we didn't believe that there was a stadium being built when they first mentioned it. We were CCC lovers when we said that CCC couldn't afford and wouldn't be able to let SISU have what they wanted. And there is more.

I wish I hadn't been right. But being right doesn't mean that I preferred one side over the other. And if anyone looks back they will see that my preferred way forward was for CCC to keep the Ricoh until SISU had gone. But it looks quite obvious that they won't go until at least the Ricoh thing has come to a final conclusion. Years and years of wasted time and money on needless litigation. So this is why I say that I can see why CCC let it go.

It works both ways Astute, I have been called a SUSI lover/sympathizer many times despite the fact that I have expressed my hatred for SISU on just as many occasions.

Samo · May 24, 2015

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
Don't be a twat. I did ask the question as to where CCFC would be placed if the Sixfields farce gave rise to a rugby club making the Ricoh it's home. Just because you got your knickers in a twist in the other thread, don't bring your fragile ego onto here. Or have you arrived to start a healthcare tombola questions and answers debate on celebrities state of health?

Ooooh we are grumpy today! Looks like CCFC really hit a nerve.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · May 24, 2015

Samo said:
Ooooh we are grumpy today! Looks like CCFC really hit a nerve.

The responses only reaffirm my claim, there are some who have lapped up everything CCC have told them over the last 2 and a half years and they are determined to absolve of them any wrong doing whatsoever and shmee was attempting to paint it the other way round earlier in the thread when realistically that would apply to 0.01% of the fan base.

Mary_Mungo_Midge · May 24, 2015

Samo said:
Ooooh we are grumpy today! Looks like CCFC really hit a nerve.

Ooh, maybe I've got a problem with my nervous system then? Could it be a the spinal cord issue, like myelopathy, or brain, such as encephalopathy. Shouldn't you start a foundation-less debate again?

skybluetony176 · May 24, 2015

CCFC said:
The responses only reaffirm my claim, there are some who have lapped up everything CCC have told them over the last 2 and a half years and they are determined to absolve of them any wrong doing whatsoever despite shmee attempting to paint it the other way round earlier in the thread.

What have CCC told us exactly over the last two and a half year's? Seems to me that there hasn't been a lot to lap up even if you wanted too. It's SISU who's been doing the talking.

Astute · May 24, 2015

Samo said:
Ooooh we are grumpy today! Looks like CCFC really hit a nerve.

It would hit a nerve with you if you were constantly called a SISU lover for having an opinion. It is used by those that can't make a point against something that has been said. It is getting absolutely boring now.

Mary_Mungo_Midge · May 24, 2015

CCFC said:
The responses only reaffirm my claim, there are some who have lapped up everything CCC have told them over the last 2 and a half years and they are determined to absolve of them any wrong doing whatsoever despite shmee attempting to paint it the other way round earlier in the thread.

Okay, so my response has reaffirmed your beliefs, eh?

Let me keep it simple for you. Point me to anything - not matter how remote - that shows that I have 'lapped up' anything from CCC, and that I'm absolving them of anything. And I mean absolutely anything whatsoever.

I'll wait, eh?

Otherwise, this looks like the shouty - incessantly wrong - minority name-calling and false-claiming again

Samo · May 24, 2015

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
Ooh, maybe I've got a problem with my nervous system then? Could it be a the spinal
cord issue, like myelopathy, or brain, such as encephalopathy. Shouldn't you start a foundation-less debate again?

Gosh what big words. I didn't start that thread fuckwit, and it was Nick that turned it into a debate.... and lost.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · May 24, 2015

How about when Ann Lucas was caught out lying about the financial viability of ACL and you kept trying to argue it was a genuine mistake

(I'm on my phone now but will try and find the thread later if I can be arsed)

Samo · May 24, 2015

Astute said:
It would hit a nerve with you if you were constantly called a SISU lover for having an opinion. It is used by those that can't make a point against something that has been said. It is getting absolutely boring now.

I am!

Mary_Mungo_Midge · May 24, 2015

Samo said:
Gosh what big words. I didn't start that thread fuckwit, and it was Nick that turned it into a debate.... and lost.

You didn't start it; but you started the tasteless trend of foundation-less guessing what life-threatening conditions a player could be suffering from. That's class.

And 'fuckwit'? Name calling? Nice. Classier still.

I could start deliberating what medical conditions could give rise to you behaving like this; but I won't. I possess decency and morality you see. Do you see what I did there?

Mary_Mungo_Midge · May 24, 2015

CCFC said:
How about when Ann Lucas was caught out lying about the financial viability of ACL and you kept trying to argue it was a genuine mistake

(I'm on my phone now but will try and find the thread later if I can be arsed)

No, you said my response 'reaffirmed' your belief. What have I said that 'reaffirmed' your beliefs?

It's a simple question. You're on your phone so don't need to go back in history. It's on the previous page. What have I said on this thread that 'reaffirms' your beliefs?

Samo · May 24, 2015

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
Don't be a twat. I did ask the question as to where CCFC would be placed if the Sixfields farce gave rise to a rugby club making the Ricoh it's home. Just
because you got your knickers in a twist in the other thread, don't bring your fragile ego onto here. Or have you arrived to start a healthcare tombola questions and answers debate on celebrities state of health?

This kind of decency you mean?

Mary_Mungo_Midge · May 24, 2015

Samo said:
This kind of decency you mean?

I think you needlessly started it by being factitious before then. I noted your participation on the other thread earlier. It wasn't your finest hour. I didn't comment.

But when you bring needless sarcasm onto this thread, without provocation, I wasn't going to sit back. Or do you just like to lash out and name-call, then whine when someone gives you something back? What's wrong with you? What are you suffering from?

Let's debate...

Samo · May 24, 2015

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
You didn't start it; but you started the tasteless trend of foundation-less guessing what life-threatening conditions a player could be suffering from. That's class.

And 'fuckwit'? Name calling? Nice. Classier still.

I could start deliberating what medical conditions could give rise to you behaving like this; but I won't. I possess decency and morality you see. Do you see what I did there?

The OP started it. You can't really be this dim surely?

Samo · May 24, 2015

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
I think you needlessly started it by being factitious before then. I noted your participation on the other thread earlier. It wasn't your finest hour. I didn't comment.

But when you bring needless sarcasm onto this thread, without provocation, I wasn't going to sit back. Or do you just like to lash out and name-call, then whine when someone gives you something back? What's wrong with you? What are you suffering from?

Let's debate...

Pitiful. All I did was question your post and you started with the name calling and aggression. Why is it you find me so intimidating?

Mary_Mungo_Midge · May 24, 2015

Samo said:
The OP started it. You can't really be this dim surely?

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/57055-Bigirimana-and-this-mystery-illness

Here's the thread. You start the guessing game as to what he's suffering from.

Anyone with decency would simply post something like 'Lord knows, but good luck to the fella in whatever battles he has'.

You didn't. You started it. Don't try and finger point at others to cover your own inadequacies

Mary_Mungo_Midge · May 24, 2015

Samo said:
Pitiful. All I did was question your post and you started with the name calling and aggression. Why is it you find me so intimidating?

You? Intimidating? It's you who takes every opportunity to have a go at me. Do you know what that says about the psychology of our on-forum dynamic?

SkyBlue_Bear83 · May 24, 2015

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
No, you said my response 'reaffirmed' your belief. What have I said that 'reaffirmed' your beliefs?

It's a simple question. You're on your phone so don't need to go back in history. It's on the previous page. What have I said on this thread that 'reaffirms' your beliefs?

I said the responses, I was including Italia and jack in that statement.

You said point me to anything? I didn't realise by anything you meant something within the last few hours. Totally my fault there.

You haven't exactly denied it very convincingly, you started going on about how you care about the club which i never questioned. Where have you said in the last few pages actually you know the council were actually at fault or there, or they could have handled that situation better or differently?

You said you hold a different view with regards to CCC than me, I hold the view that they have made mistakes but are not primarily responsible for the state of the club.

The closest you came was saying you don't support CCC, you stopped short of criticising them.

None of your posts from today have convinced me that my claim is anything other than correct.

Astute · May 24, 2015

CCFC said:
How about when Ann Lucas was caught out lying about the financial viability of ACL and you kept trying to argue it was a genuine mistake

(I'm on my phone now but will try and find the thread later if I can be arsed)

Is this aimed at me as usual?

Some say that they know she lied. They don't. There are 4 choices. She lied. The person that told her lied. The person that told her didn't know the facts. There was a mistake made on the accounts.

But yes it goes with what some want to believe so she lied.

Samo · May 24, 2015

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/57055-Bigirimana-and-this-mystery-illness

Here's the thread. You start the guessing game as to what he's suffering from.

Anyone with decency would simply post something like 'Lord knows, but good luck to the fella in whatever battles he has'.

You didn't. You started it. Don't try and finger point at others to cover your own inadequacies

Do me a favour. The OP (and the original article) made it quite clear that whatever the illness was he would not be allowed to participate in team sports in Scotland. The implication is quite clear and the possibilities are very limited.

Samo · May 24, 2015

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
You? Intimidating? It's you who takes every opportunity to have a go at me. Do you know what that says about the psychology of our on-forum dynamic?

Anyone viewing this thread can see the dynamic. I politely questioned your post, no aggression, no insults, and got in return a bunch of name calling and insults. It's there for all to see.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · May 24, 2015

Astute said:
Is this aimed at me as usual?

Some say that they know she lied. They don't. There are 4 choices. She lied. The person that told her lied. The person that told her didn't know the facts. There was a mistake made on the accounts.

But yes it goes with what some want to believe so she lied.

No as usual it is not aimed at you, it was a response to MMM.

However do you believe that she is that incompetent that she made statement to the media without checking her facts?

The balance of probability is that she knew she was deceiving the public when she made that statement.

Mary_Mungo_Midge · May 24, 2015

CCFC said:
I said the responses, I was including Italia and jack in that statement.

You said point me to anything? I didn't realise by anything you meant something within the last few hours. Totally my fault there.

You haven't exactly denied it very convincingly, you started going on about how you care about the club which i never questioned. Where have you said in the last few pages actually you know the council were actually at fault or there, or they could have handled that situation better or differently?

You said you hold a different view with regards to CCC than me, I hold the view that they have made mistakes but are not primarily responsible for the state of the club.

The closest you came was saying you don't support CCC, you stopped short of criticising them.

None of your posts from today have convinced me that my claim is anything other than correct.

You clearly used the word 'reaffirmed' with regards comments on here.

That's why I asked to to tell me why it 'reaffirmed' your view. By default, therefore, any provocation has to be recent. Hence reaffirming.

Or are you saying you didn't mean reaffirm, you simply meant you still held the view you always had without any new material. Which is okay. But it's different to 'reaffirming'

Mary_Mungo_Midge · May 24, 2015

Samo said:
Do me a favour. The OP (and the original article) made it quite clear that whatever the illness was he would not be allowed to participate in team sports in Scotland. The implication is quite clear and the possibilities are very limited.

The OP and the article were highlighting the poor fella's plight. Not giving a forum for tasteless guesswork at to what's wrong with him. If you can't see the difference between those two, I feel sorry for you.

Edited to add an example:

Someone rings in sick on Tuesday morning, with a headache. Do you:

a) say I hope they get better
b) start a debate in the office as to whether it's a migraine or brain tumour

Otis · May 24, 2015

covmark said:
It's about time this council/Sisu lover stuff was put to bed. No one really is, except maybe for a couple of wums.

Yep. No-one loves Sisu and no-one loves the council either.

Both have contributed to our demise. I do wonder when this nonsense will finally run its course and we can move on and talk about something else.

Samo · May 24, 2015

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
The OP and the article were highlighting the poor fella's plight. Not giving a forum for tasteless guesswork at to what's wrong with him. If you can't see the difference between those two, I feel sorry for you

I am completely sympathetic to the young man's plight and don't really understand why my post could be interpreted otherwise.
Forgive me for asking but are you, well... small?

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