Investment rumour. (1 Viewer)

1ccfc · May 21, 2015

Just been speaking to a mate who is a blades fan, and he told me to check out the 'blades mad' site about a CCFC rumour. I've added the link;

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=463&fid=221&sty=2&act=1&mid=2110021124#rKTkVmMpm5ihuk9l.97

No real detail or source, but just thought I'd share it.

I've had a quick look back through old posts and can't see it mentioned but apologies if a thread already exists on this.

PUSB.

skybluetony176 · May 21, 2015

Is it Simon Regiski coming in for us?

CCFCKirky · May 21, 2015

I think this belongs in the "utter Bullshit" thread!

eastwoodsdustman · May 21, 2015

Sure Its Phil Masinga's consortium. It'd tie in with him being spotted at KFC in Tile hill last week.

duffer · May 21, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
Is it Simon Regiski coming in for us?

I was just about to Google "Simon Regiski", when the penny dropped.

italiahorse · May 21, 2015

Assumes Sisu will sell !!

chiefdave · May 21, 2015

This sounds like someone just picking out a 'big' club to start a rumour. Why would a billionaire be interested in us, there must be better options.

ccfcway · May 21, 2015

i heard this was the last assurance TM was waiting for

Ashdown · May 21, 2015

chiefdave said:
This sounds like someone just picking out a 'big' club to start a rumour. Why would a billionaire be interested in us, there must be better options.

Don't ruin it David ! It's like buying a Lotto ticket, you know you aren't going to win but it's nice to dream for a few hours !

Manchester_sky_blue · May 21, 2015

Sheff U would surely be one of the clubs an investor would look at ahead of us...................... biggish fan base, were in the prem not that long ago, finished 5th last term etc etc

Noggin · May 21, 2015

chiefdave said:
This sounds like someone just picking out a 'big' club to start a rumour. Why would a billionaire be interested in us, there must be better options.

Not that I believe the rumour at all but If sisu wanted to sell for what the club is worth without our debt/shares meaning they get all profit I think we are an attractive proposition if you are someone who wanted to play the dangerous game of invest and hope to get to the premiership. Lets say you can buy us for 2 mill or a club with a lots of assets and a stadium for 40mill. Now you are going to gamble with 30mill of your own money willing to lose it all but hoping to get to the premiership to cash in, you are going to need 70m to do it with the club with a stadium (40m+30m) and you will need to find someone to buy the club off you at the end or you risk losing 70m, with us the risk is just the 32mill and you could just walk away if it failed, you could argue that they'd want the revenue from the food and drink but I'd argue that our attendances would be the best in the league if someone came in and really splashed the cash (league 1 and even championship) and that more than makes up for it and despite the intention of scmp and ffp they are really irrelevant with so many holes as to be meaningless to someone who wants to buy success.

skyblueinBaku · May 21, 2015

The Silly Season has started early this year.

oldskyblue58 · May 21, 2015

but having got to the Premiership how does that new owner of Otium cash in? They wont be taking dividends any time soon and to get there and stay there will require probably spending any surplus cash.

It wouldn't be an exposure of 2m though would it because there are loans to pay off that exist already. SISU wont just write those off especially the ARVO ones

hill83 · May 21, 2015

My mates uncles mate told me about this too. He's involved WATCH THIS SPACE.

I can't say anymore than that or I'll be abducted by aliens.

oldskyblue58 · May 21, 2015

must be true then :laugh:

hill83 · May 21, 2015

Throw enough shit and some is bound to stick. I'll be referring back to this thread if and when Sisu do sell up.

Noggin · May 21, 2015

oldskyblue58 said:
but having got to the Premiership how does that new owner of Otium cash in? They wont be taking dividends any time soon and to get there and stay there will require probably spending any surplus cash.

It wouldn't be an exposure of 2m though would it because there are loans to pay off that exist already. SISU wont just write those off especially the ARVO ones

Thats why I said if you could buy us for what we are worth and without taking on any debt or having others own shares in us, the simple fact of the matter is sisu have no chance whatsoever of selling us under those circumstances. I completely agree that that we are an extremely unattractive investment if you were purchasing with the debt attached and no one is going to buy us under that circumstance.

I was more talking about the why would someone buy us without a stadium belief that many hold and while it's a completely valid point I think it's not as simple as that.

As a Premiership club the owner could cash in by selling, whats the cheapest a premiership club sells for? Fulhum were sold for 200mill a couple of years ago and the premiership is even more lucrative now and of course as a premiership club building a new stadium actually does become a great deal more financially viable if someone so wished.

Of course if you still think I'm wrong then well I probably am I know better than to try and disagree with you on finance.

rupert_bear · May 21, 2015

But something has convinced Joy Sepalla to secure Tony Mowbray's services come what may and something has convinced TM this club is for him.

ajsccfc · May 21, 2015

Tony's clearly had a peep at the plans for Friargate and heard Wagamamas is coming.

hill83 · May 21, 2015

ajsccfc said:
Tony's clearly had a peep at the plans for Friargate and heard Wagamamas is coming.

All down to Lucas as well, she's on noodles and teppanyaki.

mrtrench · May 21, 2015

I don't believe the rumour either but interestingly we could be more attractive without a stadium. If you think that you can invest and as a result get into the premiership for the big money, then skipping the bit where you also have to pay for real estate provides a highly leveraged investment.

Samo · May 21, 2015

Manchester_sky_blue said:
Sheff U would surely be one of the clubs an investor would look at ahead of us...................... biggish fan base, were in the prem not that long ago, finished 5th last term etc etc

2 club city though

fellatio_Martinez · May 21, 2015

I have very big news that I am willing to exchange for favours. I can meet in most public toilets. Biters not welcome. xxx

Manchester_sky_blue · May 21, 2015

mrtrench said:
I don't believe the rumour either but interestingly we could be more attractive without a stadium. If you think that you can invest and as a result get into the premiership for the big money, then skipping the bit where you also have to pay for real estate provides a highly leveraged investment.

Very little collateral against which to secure the debt though, the playing squad and a few cones aint worth much

Manchester_sky_blue · May 21, 2015

Samo said:
2 club city though

True but they still averaged crowds of 30k-ish during their prem season in 2006-07

LB87ccfc · May 21, 2015

Someone has just brought up the Sun newspapers article about Russian Billionaires currently looking at Football League clubs, ( a spread in the paper was done on this a couple of months back) after London based bankers gave the interview.

Old rumour.

robbieray · May 21, 2015

Lol its the Coventry & Bradford building society they want to buy

Astute · May 21, 2015

rupert_bear said:
But something has convinced Joy Sepalla to secure Tony Mowbray's services come what may and something has convinced TM this club is for him.

Nothing to do with us being shit with whoever she has put into place so far so now at last we have someone that knows about football running the show?

Although if I had say 50m or more to invest in a hobby and wanted a football club I would be looking at our level. You wouldn't get a Prem side as they get more than that each year. A championship side with a decent fan base would go for a fair bit. Our level would be the place to start. Debts to be paid as we go higher. And the risk is then taken away from future investments needed. But can't see it myself.

skybluepm2 · May 21, 2015

Cue Tim Fisher's first press release in months; the club is categorically not for sale. However we would be open to collaborative investment.

Seriously though, Wasps success may not have gone unnoticed. Equivalent potential could also occur with CCFC and would if we got back to the promised land. Can't see any truth in this rumour unfortunately.

Senior Vick from Alicante · May 21, 2015

I am not fanning the flames but didn't Wingy say in another thread that our owners said they could not afford at any cost to be relegated. At the time their was some conjecture that their may be some thing a foot in the summer.

Otis · May 21, 2015

hill83 said:
My mates uncles mate told me about this too. He's involved WATCH THIS SPACE.

I can't say anymore than that or I'll be abducted by aliens.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/watchthisspace

theferret · May 21, 2015

I don't usually get involved in all this hearsay, but I have had two conversations now with people closely connected with the club, albeit in completely different ways, that suggest something is going on. They both basically said SISU are working with a backer - its not a take over, more of an investment partnership. Mowbray is said to have asked for £6 million over two year to restructure the club from top to bottom and has been given it.

Just what I've heard. Oh, and planning app for new stadium will be in before the start of next season - it's definitely the airport site.

Please feel free to call me a c-unit now in case this is all bollocks. Seriously though, I do trust these people.

rupert_bear · May 21, 2015

Good look to Fisher and co if it is the airport site for our new ground. They couldn't get planning permission there for a poxy little terminal so how are they goig to get it for a football stadium and all that goes with it.

Deleted member 5849 · May 21, 2015

theferret said:
Oh, and planning app for new stadium will be in before the start of next season

2016?

it's definitely the airport site.

I hesitate to ask which airport...

lordsummerisle · May 21, 2015

theferret said:
I don't usually get involved in all this hearsay, but I have had two conversations now with people closely connected with the club, albeit in completely different ways, that suggest something is going on. They both basically said SISU are working with a backer - its not a take over, more of an investment partnership. Mowbray is said to have asked for £6 million over two year to restructure the club from top to bottom and has been given it.

Just what I've heard. Oh, and planning app for new stadium will be in before the start of next season - it's definitely the airport site.

Please feel free to call me a c-unit now in case this is all bollocks. Seriously though, I do trust these people.

Wouldn't be at all surprised if the Airport, Rigby been losing serious amounts of money there, only got it for the Gateway which doesn't appear to be happening now.

Planning permission could be a problem though, though sure the sensitive souls in Bubbenhall and Stoneleigh wouldn't be so bothered as long as fans aren't flying over their houses.

The land all owned by CCC though so would rule have ruled out the "not working with CCC" thing, though things do change when pragmatism takes hold.

Strangely seem to remmber half of it was CCC for planning permission and half WCC, but the new terminal was in the WCC bit.

Shouldn't have been a problem anyway as WCC had granted outline permission for a terminal up to 5million people a year I think for years, but somebody on the airport legal side fucked up and allowed it to lapse, hence the locals able to get their objections in.

Whilst certainly a large enough area, and a pretty good site really, especially as the death roundabout improvements will all be completed by the time anything could possibly be built, think too many obstacles from planning and political sides for there.

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