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stevefloyd

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #701
Ahhh we could be the Butts of everyones jokes
 
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6 Generations

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #702
Manchester_sky_blue said:
I just can't see it being Red Bull. With the resources they have why would they not look at teams higher up the tree than us if they were wanting to get involved in English Football?
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I haven't googled it but I'm sure I read before that RB Leipzig were bought by Red Bull and have climbed 6 divisions to currently top the Bundesliga.
 
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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #703
Moff said:
Didn't they start down the leagues with Leipzig? Looking at the potential and then building.
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They did but the model is different in Europe. There is no money in English football outside the Prem. Even if they did want to start lower down and build up there are plenty of league one/two clubs with less baggage than us. The stadium / training ground issues etc surely make us very unpalatable.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #704
Moff said:
Didn't they start down the leagues with Leipzig? Looking at the potential and then building.
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Division Five apparently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RB_Leipzig
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #705
Otis said:
And also with a Butts that would be a small capacity with the inability to expand if we were to make it really big in the game.
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Hasn't stopped Bournmouth.
 
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Moff

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #706
torchomatic said:
Division Five apparently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RB_Leipzig
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Only a couple of years for them to wait and we will be in the same position
 

Moff

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #707
Manchester_sky_blue said:
They did but the model is different in Europe. There is no money in English football outside the Prem. Even if they did want to start lower down and build up there are plenty of league one/two clubs with less baggage than us. The stadium / training ground issues etc surely make us very unpalatable.
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Is there money in German football outside the top division?
 

torchomatic

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #708
Grendel said:
Hasn't stopped Bournmouth.
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Spot on!
 

Otis

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #709
Grendel said:
Hasn't stopped Bournmouth.
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Who want to and hope to expand.

You can't expand if there is not the scope to expand.

I don't have a problem with the Butts, but it can grow to a certain size and then that's it. No more scope.

I stick by my thoughts that there is no way even a 20,000 seater stadium can be accommodated there.
 
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skybluebeduff

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #710
Moff said:
Is there money in German football outside the top division?
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No it's the same as England, just cheaper tickets.
 
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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #711
Moff said:
Is there money in German football outside the top division?
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More so than in English lower leagues. There is a close synergy in German football between local clubs and businesses based in the same areas so sponsorship deals can be substantial even outside of the top flight.
 

ricohroar

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #712
People would be that offended and put off if we played in this? has more blue on it than our current top? albeit a slightly darker shade, but we have played in kits worse. And whats to stop red bull making the blue lighter?
 

SkyBlueRuffian

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #713
letsallsingtogether said:
We're not that lucky.
If what I have heard is true it is one person hasn't got that much money wouldn't have thought.
But get may have some backers behind him.
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Joe Elliott?
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #714
As Hull have proved, its not that easy to change a teams name and badge anyway. So even if Red Bull did come in it wouldn't necessarily mean a big rebranding. It's still not Red Bull though
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #715
Otis said:
Who want to and hope to expand.

You can't expand if there is not the scope to expand.

I don't have a problem with the Butts, but it can grow to a certain size and then that's it. No more scope.

I stick by my thoughts that there is no way even a 20,000 seater stadium can be accommodated there.
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It doesn't matter if they want to expand - they proved you can capacity is not a link to success.
 

Don't know why I bother

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #716
Well I for one hope Malaka is wrong or I'll have to change my username again
 
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skybluebeduff

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #717
ricohroar said:
People would be that offended and put off if we played in this? has more blue on it than our current top? albeit a slightly darker shade, but we have played in kits worse. And whats to stop red bull making the blue lighter?
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Was there uproar in the 60's when we switched to Sky Blue?
 
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Joy Division

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #718
ricohroar said:
People would be that offended and put off if we played in this? has more blue on it than our current top? albeit a slightly darker shade, but we have played in kits worse. And whats to stop red bull making the blue lighter?
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Yes, we'd be an absolute fucking embarrassment.
 

skybluebeduff

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #719
Joy Division said:
Yes, we'd be an absolute fucking embarrassment.
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Like we already are?
 
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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #720
Joy Division said:
Yes, we'd be an absolute fucking embarrassment.
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We really wouldn't. Where we find ourselves now is a massive embarrassment.

Irrelevant however as there is no way its Red Bull!
 
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hotrod

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #721
I suspect all this is pure speculation by Malaka, as something this big even as a rumour there would have been leaks however small from other sources including CT.

I think this is just an ego trip for the OP as his original post was slipping out of sight and this latest small tit-bit has revived it again.

Hope very much I am wrong and that something is happening.

Regards.
 

Joy Division

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #722
Esoterica said:
I'd love to hear why JD?
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I'm not particularly the kind of person who's in favour bending over waiting to be fucked be the biggest bunch of corporate tossers who's only interest is to promote their brand and who no problems changing the make up and history of the club to suit them.

We'd be a laughing stock.
 

Otis

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #723
Grendel said:
It doesn't matter if they want to expand - they proved you can capacity is not a link to success.
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This argument has been done to death.

They constantly need a very rich backer throwing money in for them to be able to compete.

A team that has a capacity of 14,000 cannot compete with clubs with capacities of 50,000-65,000+ without constant investment.

Not doing this whole thing all over. Been done to death.

Yes, Bournemouth are making a fist of it at the moment, but for how long and how long is their owner going to keep backing them?
 
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Don't know why I bother

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #724
Not sure about Red but it smells of some Bull. Keep the news flowing Malaka I really want to believe.
 

Otis

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #725
Joy Division said:
Yes, we'd be an absolute fucking embarrassment.
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To who?

I think he doth protest too much.

We would not be an embarrassment to any other club. Why would we be? I guess you mean to our own fans?

Just look at the Coventry City historical kits. Look how much they altered over the years. We have been going since 1883, but have only had sky blue since the 1960's, just a fraction of our existence.

It's all a moot point anyway. There would be sky blue incorporated somewhere. New owners would not be that stupid to do otherwise.
 

skybluebeduff

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #726


This Tesco Bag is a fucking embarrassment.
 
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ricohroar

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #727
Joy Division said:
Yes, we'd be an absolute fucking embarrassment.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA at present we are the laughing stock of the footballing world, you really think that a blue and white kit will make it worse, especially if it was joined by £Billions investment????

As someone said its not red bull, but can you believe some people lol never happy. moan moan moan moan moan.
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #728
Joy Division said:
I'm not particularly the kind of person who's in favour bending over waiting to be fucked be the biggest bunch of corporate tossers who's only interest is to promote their brand and who no problems changing the make up and history of the club to suit them.

We'd be a laughing stock.
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ummmm..........hate to break it to you but thats kind of how football works................ every single league club is beholden to Sky already regardless of ownership............
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #729
hotrod said:
I suspect all this is pure speculation by Malaka, as something this big even as a rumour there would have been leaks however small from other sources including CT.

I think this is just an ego trip for the OP as his original post was slipping out of sight and this latest small tit-bit has revived it again.

Hope very much I am wrong and that something is happening.

Regards.
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don't agree, he has been spot on with other things and he isn't the type to be after an ego rub.

He has also stressed it is very much a rumour.
 
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hotrod

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #730
Believe me Nick I really hope you and Malaka are right, but I still think that if there was an element of truth there would have been leaks from other sources.

Regards.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #731
Otis said:
This argument has been done to death.

They constantly need a very rich backer throwing money in for them to be able to compete.

A team that has a capacity of 14,000 cannot compete with clubs with capacities of 50,000-65,000+ without constant investment.

Not doing this whole thing all over. Been done to death.

Yes, Bournemouth are making a fist of it at the moment, but for how long and how long is their owner going to keep backing them?
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Actually it can easily compete. The percentage of revenue in the premier league from gate revenue is small and not that relevant.

Most clubs promoted from the championship have done so with colossal wage bills that exceed any income from attendances

If you don't believe me do the maths.

Let's assume the club is in the championship.

Say we have a 15,000 stadium. We charge £25 a head. That's at a full up ground generated £8.6 million a year.

If we have a 25,000 ground let's say we achieve 22,000 (very optimistic) - that's £4 million a season more.

If then the club is promoted £4 million compared to £100 million sky money alone is nothing.

If the club got promoted it would increase charges. We'd sell out big games but there is no way on earth that we'd sell out Bournmouth or Burnley on a damp Monday night with a likely match day fee of £35 per head.

Reverse your logic. If we actually got promoted and Bournmouth got relegated would we be more or less competitive than them if we had a ground that had 18,000 more seats?
 
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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #732
Otis said:
To who?

I think he doth protest too much.

We would not be an embarrassment to any other club. Why would we be? I guess you mean to our own fans?

Just look at the Coventry City historical kits. Look how much they altered over the years. We have been going since 1883, but have only had sky blue since the 1960's, just a fraction of our existence.

It's all a moot point anyway. There would be sky blue incorporated somewhere. New owners would not be that stupid to do otherwise.
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It's a massive fraction Otis.... Almost HALF!
 
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Joy Division

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #733
ricohroar said:
HAHAHAHAHAHA at present we are the laughing stock of the footballing world, you really think that a blue and white kit will make it worse, especially if it was joined by £Billions investment????

As someone said its not red bull, but can you believe some people lol never happy. moan moan moan moan moan.
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I'd probably suggest reading a bit more about Red Bull's involvement in football.
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #734
Otis said:
Who want to and hope to expand.

You can't expand if there is not the scope to expand.

I don't have a problem with the Butts, but it can grow to a certain size and then that's it. No more scope.

I stick by my thoughts that there is no way even a 20,000 seater stadium can be accommodated there.
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Tbf the discussions the PL are having around safe standing might sort the expansion/capacity issues

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Joy Division

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  • Dec 8, 2016
  • #735
Manchester_sky_blue said:
ummmm..........hate to break it to you but thats kind of how football works................ every single league club is beholden to Sky already regardless of ownership............
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So that makes it okay? Would people be happy if WASPS invested millions into us if they changed our kit to yellow and black?

I just find it strange and quite interesting peoples attitudes changing as soon as mega £££'s a waved in their faces.
 
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