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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #141
Sick Boy said:
Plenty on here seem to think that this is a good move and some foolishly spin the line that it is good for ccfc too. Most of them are probably council plants though....or just thick.
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You must be reading a different forum. I can only think of one on here who's said anything like that, that's not plenty.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #142
hill83 said:
That's what I'm talking about to be fair. The fans are usually a good bunch of chaps.
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You do know that one of the conditions of watching Rugby isn't that you have to socialise with the team and stick your finger up their bum?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #143
torchomatic said:
There's no difference. Oh, apart from one isn't SISU. That's all that really matters to some.
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Torch what do you expect?

After all they have done people don't like them and worse don't trust them.

I have had many meetings with Sisu Reps and they talk the talk but fuck me don't know how to walk the walk....

That is the problem they ask for our help then carry on doing the same things.

While they are in charge there will be far more against them then for them that is why the club is in the shit.
 
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The Lurker

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #144
letsallsingtogether said:
Torch what do you expect?

After all they have done people don't like them and worse don't trust them.

I have had many meetings with Sisu Reps and they talk the talk but fuck me don't know how to walk the walk....

That is the problem they ask for our help then carry on doing the same things.

While they are in charge there will be far more against them then for them that is why the club is in the shit.
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Nail on the head
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #145
I agree. People shouldnt trust hedge funds full stop, but Lurker and quite a few others seem to forget that a new one has just rolled into town.

letsallsingtogether said:
Torch what do you expect?

After all they have done people don't like them and worse don't trust them.

I have had many meetings with Sisu Reps and they talk the talk but fuck me don't know how to walk the walk....

That is the problem they ask for our help then carry on doing the same things.

While they are in charge there will be far more against them then for them that is why the club is in the shit.
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Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #146
torchomatic said:
I agree. People shouldnt trust hedge funds full stop, but Lurker and quite a few others seem to forget that a new one has just rolled into town.
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However Torch I cant help but feel even by Hedge Fund standards SISU are a pretty poor bunch.

Anyway for SISU to have any chance of salvaging a deal on the Ricol Sepalla should be taljing to Wasps not Les Reid.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #147
LOL. We've gone from all hedge funds are evil to well, some are alright.

Those goalposts must be heavy.

Hobo said:
However Torch I cant help but feel even by Hedge Fund standards SISU are a pretty poor bunch.

Anyway for SISU to have any chance of salvaging a deal on the Ricol Sepalla should be taljing to Wasps not Les Reid.
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #148
torchomatic said:
LOL. We've gone from all hedge funds are evil to well, some are alright.

Those goalposts must be heavy.
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No, you can get them on wheels now. Makes it much easier.
 
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TheOldFive

New Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #149
These lovely big attendances, the big buzz, Rugby now having a new Midlands HQ near its Birthplace - this could all be good not only for the City of Coventry AND Coventry City.

Tell you something else. Expect that scrapyard opposite to disappear very quickly. *taps nose*
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #150
torchomatic said:
LOL. We've gone from all hedge funds are evil to well, some are alright.

No I said even by Hedge Fund standards SISU are poor...nothing about some are alright. I cant recall calling them evil either.

You really are full of shit.

Those goalposts must be heavy.
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #151
TheOldFive said:
These lovely big attendances, the big buzz, Rugby now having a new Midlands HQ near its Birthplace - this could all be good not only for the City of Coventry AND Coventry City.

Tell you something else. Expect that scrapyard opposite to disappear very quickly. *taps nose*
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Already been posted that CPO have started to be issued,
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #152
torchomatic said:
I agree. People shouldnt trust hedge funds full stop, but Lurker and quite a few others seem to forget that a new one has just rolled into town.
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What the name of the hedge fund controlling the wasps consortium?
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #153
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Already been posted that CPO have started to be issued,
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Remember seeing some Feasibility /Costing Studies on here a couple of years back by a Japanese outfit IIRC. for the whole Shebang .

Someone has definitely had a good Pore over It .

Might have been Houchens head ??
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #154
No some are just better at what they do.

If you have to be involved with one pick that knows what it is doing?


torchomatic said:
LOL. We've gone from all hedge funds are evil to well, some are alright.

Those goalposts must be heavy.
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #155
Apologies. I thought we were all anti Hedge Fund, not just the one.

letsallsingtogether said:
No some are just better at what they do.

If you have to be involved with one pick that knows what it is doing?
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #156
Only really interested in the one that fucked up my Club.
Before that hadn't even given them a thought TBH.

If they had acted in a more admirable manner maybe more of us would have had a different view.

torchomatic said:
Apologies. I thought we were all anti Hedge Fund, not just the one.
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #157
letsallsingtogether said:
Only really interested in the one that fucked up my Club.
Before that hadn't even given them a thought TBH.

If they had acted in a more admirable manner maybe more of us would have had a different view.
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They've taken a Bird that was semi desirable ,gave her the clap and made her untouchable .
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #158
wingy said:
They've taken a Bird that was semi desirable ,gave her the clap and made her untouchable .
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I'll still risk it After some anti biotics of course
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #159
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
I'll still risk it After some anti biotics of course
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Yeah we all would we've got the Beer goggles on.

I mean to an outsider that may have a view to getting her cleaned up and giving her some self respect ,rather than a Pimp/Whore relationship.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #160
Ooh this is ripe for one of Shmmee's 'battered wife' analogies.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #161
torchomatic said:
Ooh this is ripe for one of Shmmee's 'battered wife' analogies.
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Torch, is it a hedge find that are behind the wasps consortium?
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #162
torchomatic said:
Ooh this is ripe for one of Shmmee's 'battered wife' analogies.
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Nah mines definitlly an original.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #163
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
I'll still risk it After some anti biotics of course
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Maybe a Season ticket should come with a Sheath??
 
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mgw747

New Member
  • Oct 31, 2014
  • #164
Just talked to the Wasps ticket office They will be releasing more blocks next week so not a sell out. As a long standing fan of both codes I will be going. Currently a Saints season ticket holder. I have been since I gave up my ccfc season ticket when SISU moved us It was all a bit mad I had always attended as many saints games as ccfc allowed but never went to a Cov game in Northampton.

I think wasps will do OK for attendance at the Ricoh, in terms of Rugby crowds as they will have 4 well attended derby games, Don't expect sell outs at the Ricoh though, the top team in the country don't always sell all their 13 000 for home games, I am sure you know it is very different to watching football. For some reason as long as it is good game the result is secondary. Whenever I watch Cov I don't mind if they play crap as long as they win.

If Wasps and cov are smart they will offer a joint season ticket for those who want to watch both. This suggests SISU can actually operate in a professional business like manner. I have seen little evidence of this in the last 7 years.

BTW I don't care who or what is to blame the dice have been rolled and all parties must get on with it,


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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2014
  • #165
Covstu said:
But they get the job done, thats the difference,...
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They had a party willing to do a deal with them.
 
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smileycov

Facebook User
  • Oct 31, 2014
  • #166
rugby support is nothing like football support. I will attend wasps games at some point. just wish ccfc had some interest in the ricoh and benefited from it all.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 31, 2014
  • #167
smileycov said:
rugby support is nothing like football support. I will attend wasps games at some point. just wish ccfc had some interest in the ricoh and benefited from it all.
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Do you support Coventry rugby club too?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2014
  • #168
fernandopartridge said:
They had a party willing to do a deal with them.
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They were willing to deal with a party.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2014
  • #169
fernandopartridge said:
They had a party willing to do a deal with them.
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You are probably right which begs the question.
Why would the council be willing to do business with wasps and not SISU.....
 

Rusty Trombone

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2014
  • #170
dongonzalos said:
You are probably right which begs the question.
Why would the council be willing to do business with wasps and not SISU.....
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They invited offers from anyone.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2014
  • #171
Rusty Trombone said:
They invited offers from anyone.
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No that's untrue. They never said am offer which is in effect an offer to purchase the freehold was ever a possibility.

Before you start you tell me one difference a freehold has which this lease does not.
 

Rusty Trombone

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2014
  • #172
Grendel said:
No that's untrue. They never said am offer which is in effect an offer to purchase the freehold was ever a possibility.

Before you start you tell me one difference a freehold has which this lease does not.
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The thing that they have sold, which people are unhappy about, that's the thing they invited offers for.

They said they wouldn't sell the freehold. They haven't sold the freehold. Nothing prevented SISU making an offer for ACL.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2014
  • #173
skybluetony176 said:
You do know that one of the conditions of watching Rugby isn't that you have to socialise with the team and stick your finger up their bum?
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And the team get undressed at every available opportunity, sing lewd songs, run up and down the street naked with the cup on their head ( assuming they won a cup ), let people throw ice down their trousers, drink a pitcher in 7 seconds ( never works ).... to mention a few things "my" ( I sponsor them ) Rugby players do. And they are only amateurs....
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2014
  • #174
Rusty Trombone said:
The thing that they have sold, which people are unhappy about, that's the thing they invited offers for.

They said they wouldn't sell the freehold. They haven't sold the freehold. Nothing prevented SISU making an offer for ACL.
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With respect - people like you are a dream to people such as the council. They make some soundbytes and you swallow them instantly. The unfettered freehold statement is a meaningless statement that reminds me of the day a ligament injury became a cruciate ligament injury.

A 250 year lease is freehold in terms of value and ownership -- the cycnics among us with ask for the difference between this deal and freehold -- the meek and the accepting will nod and say "Annes's kept her word everyone look it says leasehold - not freehold - well done CCC"

Your constant assertion regarding inviting offers again fails to acknoweldge a real possibility with this -- that the council approached Wasps. This would show a very diferent motive. No commercial confidentiality here -- laughable in itself -- so why doesn't the local media ask the question and why doesn't the council volunteer the answer?

On this forum people were obsessed with protecting a community asset, preserving the stadium and yet now no questions as to the deal and why the secrecy. No questions on the loan and where that now sits and who funds it.

Without being unkind you do seem a believing and unquestioning sort. Show a block of Red and you assume sold out. I would suggest it means nothing of the sort actually. I may be wrong but I am reminded of the Arthur Conan Doyle tale and the supposed ghost -- the dog did nothing -- if the ground was that much sold out I would guess the nodding dog would be doing plenty.
 

Rusty Trombone

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2014
  • #175
Grendel said:
With respect - people like you are a dream to people such as the council. They make some soundbytes and you swallow them instantly. The unfettered freehold statement is a meaningless statement that reminds me of the day a ligament injury became a cruciate ligament injury.

A 250 year lease is freehold in terms of value and ownership -- the cycnics among us with ask for the difference between this deal and freehold -- the meek and the accepting will nod and say "Annes's kept her word everyone look it says leasehold - not freehold - well done CCC"

Your constant assertion regarding inviting offers again fails to acknoweldge a real possibility with this -- that the council approached Wasps. This would show a very diferent motive. No commercial confidentiality here -- laughable in itself -- so why doesn't the local media ask the question and why doesn't the council volunteer the answer?

On this forum people were obsessed with protecting a community asset, preserving the stadium and yet now no questions as to the deal and why the secrecy. No questions on the loan and where that now sits and who funds it.

Without being unkind you do seem a believing and unquestioning sort. Show a block of Red and you assume sold out. I would suggest it means nothing of the sort actually. I may be wrong but I am reminded of the Arthur Conan Doyle tale and the supposed ghost -- the dog did nothing -- if the ground was that much sold out I would guess the nodding dog would be doing plenty.
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para 1, I haven't mentioned any sound bites, I mentioned they had said they were open to offers, they were, so not really swallowing any lies there was I?

para 2, They are different things, hence the different terms, you'd have to ask Joy why she was so bothered about freehold. Of course if she had the freehold she would still need to buy ACL.

para 3, I'll entertain the idea that the Council approached wasps, this doesn't change the fact they invited offers, this constant assertion doesn't fail to acknowledge anything.

para 4, the community asset references were always about the freehold, it seems we won't ever agree about that argument. The loan answers would be of interest to many people, not sure we have any right at present to know though. When accounts are filed it should become clearer, obviously this will take a while.

Para 5, I've questioned many things. I didn't assume sold out I wrote that that's what the website said red meant, you shouldn't assume so much.
 
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