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  • Start date Apr 23, 2024
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #71
mmttww said:
One of my favourite football memories. Stood in the West Terrace after they've taken the lead. It goes really quiet. One bloke just loses his mind, screams:

"We're losing at home to f*cking Grimsby!"
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I thought can it get any worse ,well it did lol.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #72
skybluericoh said:
I remember the drive to and from Stockport, thinking how great it would be having a season where we could go to games expecting to win. Just didn’t realise what a financial mess we were in.
Sometimes wish we had done a Leicester, but then my morales kick in. (Thanks so much mum and dad). And so although it cost us a bounce back, the fire sale was the right thing to do. Should not put other hard working people’s businesses at risk because we **** up.
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I’m so pleased you had the same moral compass as Wasps
 
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skybluericoh

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #73
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
I’m so pleased you had the same moral compass as Wasps
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? I think WASPS were awful, especially the ‘investment opportunity’ they offered. Another lesson from my parents, if it sounds too good to be true…. I feel for the poor souls who put their hard earned cash into their club.
That said, if SISU had not been so busy battering people in court and did the morale thing they would have brought the arena for a very fair price and WASPS would have never been around.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #74
skybluericoh said:
? I think WASPS were awful, especially the ‘investment opportunity’ they offered. Another lesson from my parents, if it sounds too good to be true…. I feel for the poor souls who put their hard earned cash into their club.
That said, if SISU had not been so busy battering people in court and did the morale thing they would have brought the arena for a very fair price and WASPS would have never been around.
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I was actually comparing you with them sorry if you didn’t realise
 
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skybluericoh

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #75
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
I was actually comparing you with them sorry if you didn’t realise
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why? do you think they had any morals? or are you just on a WU? Did you read what I said or is just having an immoral thought but not acting on it as bad as WASPS? If so you must live a very moral life and I ask for your forgiveness.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #76
skybluericoh said:
why? do you think they had any morals? or are you just on a WU? Did you read what I said or is just having an immoral thought but not acting on it as bad as WASPS? If so you must live a very moral life and I ask for your forgiveness.
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You are completely misinterpreting what I meant so I’ll just leave it
 

AOM

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #77
clint van damme said:
Agree, next time they try to go, let them.
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It's definitely going to happen again at some point as well. Barcelona, Real Madrid and Juventus are still opted in!
I think the only people who would lose out if it happened would be the local based fans of the clubs involved, but the owners have already shown they don't care.
Some of the Spanish and Italian cup finals have recently been played in the Middle East as well. Imagine beating Man United on Sunday and then having a final in Qatar...
 
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skybluelee

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #78
mmttww said:
One of my favourite football memories. Stood in the West Terrace after they've taken the lead. It goes really quiet. One bloke just loses his mind, screams:

"We're losing at home to f*cking Grimsby!"
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Sorry
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #79
mmttww said:
One of my favourite football memories. Stood in the West Terrace after they've taken the lead. It goes really quiet. One bloke just loses his mind, screams:

"We're losing at home to f*cking Grimsby!"
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Mine was something shouted at Gary Borrowdale:

‘You’re a useless pillock Borrowdale! That’s your name now! PILLOCK!’
 
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Tomh111

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #80
AOM said:
It's definitely going to happen again at some point as well. Barcelona, Real Madrid and Juventus are still opted in!
I think the only people who would lose out if it happened would be the local based fans of the clubs involved, but the owners have already shown they don't care.
Some of the Spanish and Italian cup finals have recently been played in the Middle East as well. Imagine beating Man United on Sunday and then having a final in Qatar...
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After Sunday, I'd be happy for them to fuck off.

People don't believe me when I say I don't want premier league football, but the side effects of it are awful.

The disparity in funds, the tourist fans, the soulless clubs and dubious morals. The money for 1 season to help set rhe club up would be nice, but as a constant to just spend time scrapping for mid-table and hoping that you don't end up financially ruined trying to compete - no thanks.

The best thing for English football would be that the super league happens and takes away the top clubs, that way the Arab and Yank money can go and do what they want with their play things and we as a country can go back to a more sustainable and fan led competition.

It would take decades to sort out, but the interest and money would slowly slip away from abroad as the prize money on offer locally would dip below the new super league.

I also think a huge amount of domestic 'fans' would move too, the majority of big 6 fans from outside their traditional catchment are not fans of the team based on connection, they're fans because they like winning. I would feel sorry for the United fans from Manchester and the Arsenal fans from North London etc but the majority would grumble, moan and feign outrage and then cream their pants when they signed Neymar for £300 million.

It would also need some government reform, to mandate some form of fan representation on all club and league boards. With a likely Labour victory at the next election, that may be more achievable - I don't think any conservative government would want to interfere in a 'free market' activity.

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shmmeee

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #81
Tomh111 said:
After Sunday, I'd be happy for them to fuck off.

People don't believe me when I say I don't want premier league football, but the side effects of it are awful.

The disparity in funds, the tourist fans, the soulless clubs and dubious morals. The money for 1 season to help set rhe club up would be nice, but as a constant to just spend time scrapping for mid-table and hoping that you don't end up financially ruined trying to compete - no thanks.

The best thing for English football would be that the super league happens and takes away the top clubs, that way the Arab and Yank money can go and do what they want with their play things and we as a country can go back to a more sustainable and fan led competition.

It would take decades to sort out, but the interest and money would slowly slip away from abroad as the prize money on offer locally would dip below the new super league.

I also think a huge amount of domestic 'fans' would move too, the majority of big 6 fans from outside their traditional catchment are not fans of the team based on connection, they're fans because they like winning. I would feel sorry for the United fans from Manchester and the Arsenal fans from North London etc but the majority would grumble, moan and feign outrage and then cream their pants when they signed Neymar for £300 million.

It would also need some government reform, to mandate some form of fan representation on all club and league boards. With a likely Labour victory at the next election, that may be more achievable - I don't think any conservative government would want to interfere in a 'free market' activity.

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To be fair the football governance bill is coming in under a Tory govt. which is a good step.
 

AOM

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #82
Tomh111 said:
After Sunday, I'd be happy for them to fuck off.

People don't believe me when I say I don't want premier league football, but the side effects of it are awful.

The disparity in funds, the tourist fans, the soulless clubs and dubious morals. The money for 1 season to help set rhe club up would be nice, but as a constant to just spend time scrapping for mid-table and hoping that you don't end up financially ruined trying to compete - no thanks.

The best thing for English football would be that the super league happens and takes away the top clubs, that way the Arab and Yank money can go and do what they want with their play things and we as a country can go back to a more sustainable and fan led competition.

It would take decades to sort out, but the interest and money would slowly slip away from abroad as the prize money on offer locally would dip below the new super league.

I also think a huge amount of domestic 'fans' would move too, the majority of big 6 fans from outside their traditional catchment are not fans of the team based on connection, they're fans because they like winning. I would feel sorry for the United fans from Manchester and the Arsenal fans from North London etc but the majority would grumble, moan and feign outrage and then cream their pants when they signed Neymar for £300 million.

It would also need some government reform, to mandate some form of fan representation on all club and league boards. With a likely Labour victory at the next election, that may be more achievable - I don't think any conservative government would want to interfere in a 'free market' activity.

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Yeah, I was initially relieved the Super League crashed and burned, but if it rears it's head again, the top 4 clubs in this country can go.
Would be genuinely interested to see if fans in other countries like Spain and Italy also feel the same about losing the same old teams who constantly win each year.

I'd imagine we'd all see a massive drop off in international TV rights money, but couldn't care less if it results in a fairer game
 
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skybluericoh

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #83
By losing all the cash, well a fair chunk, Ex pros would becoming window cleaners, car salesmen and landlords?
In all seriousness, they would still earn a decent amount, might not be able to buy 200 grand plus motors etc but would have a decent lifestyle.
But while the current set up is here we will still be seeing players moving to a PL club just for £££ not for wanting to play and enjoyment
 

ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #84
Shannerz said:
We lost 1-0 at home to Grimsby the week after.

Then people got cross.
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Yup. That was when Wee Gordon decided to walk, if I remember rightly.

That first season after relegation was so erratic - we’d hammer some teams, then lose a few, win a few hard fought games, then lose at home to a shit team and end up losing three or four in a row, then rinse and repeat.

No wonder we finished 11th, it was mental.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #85
Blind-Faith said:
This is where I’m starting to get to aswell, fuck the teams off to the European super league and they can have there tv big bucks!

Leave the real football to us and bring back the Saturday games.
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Back to League 1 for the Saturday games. I agree, For me, the league structure needs to change. If we are to feed the Premier League with 3 ‘new’ clubs, they need to change.

In the past I posted about many fans being consumers of football. They make choices. The Prem will be enough to keep us going, but how many fans have been on our journey? We won’t get that in the Prem.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #86
biggymania said:
You are describing me to a tee here. At Stockport County, our first league game after relegation I remember thinking this would be a fun season. A chance to clear out and rebuild. It's been almost a quarter of a century since that day .
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I remember it well - "we're all going on a Nationwide tour".
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #87
Tomh111 said:
After Sunday, I'd be happy for them to fuck off.

People don't believe me when I say I don't want premier league football, but the side effects of it are awful.

The disparity in funds, the tourist fans, the soulless clubs and dubious morals. The money for 1 season to help set rhe club up would be nice, but as a constant to just spend time scrapping for mid-table and hoping that you don't end up financially ruined trying to compete - no thanks.

The best thing for English football would be that the super league happens and takes away the top clubs, that way the Arab and Yank money can go and do what they want with their play things and we as a country can go back to a more sustainable and fan led competition.

It would take decades to sort out, but the interest and money would slowly slip away from abroad as the prize money on offer locally would dip below the new super league.

I also think a huge amount of domestic 'fans' would move too, the majority of big 6 fans from outside their traditional catchment are not fans of the team based on connection, they're fans because they like winning. I would feel sorry for the United fans from Manchester and the Arsenal fans from North London etc but the majority would grumble, moan and feign outrage and then cream their pants when they signed Neymar for £300 million.

It would also need some government reform, to mandate some form of fan representation on all club and league boards. With a likely Labour victory at the next election, that may be more achievable - I don't think any conservative government would want to interfere in a 'free market' activity.

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Great post. Totally agree. The supporters of the big 6 ( which club is number 6 ?) are only concerned because they've cornered the domestic market. Nothing else. They're a very big fish in a big pond : comfortable, superior, arrogant beyond belief.
The rest of us couldn't really care less. I wouldn't miss them and to be honest a few years in the top half of the championship is far better than being chicken feed for the corporate crap of the global branded big 6. They can go off and play Barcelona and Inter while I concentrate on proper football.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 26, 2024
  • #88
When they inevitably come crying back they should go to the bottom of the pyramid. Just for their cup relay fuckery.
 
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