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  • Start date Mar 29, 2025
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #141
pusbccfc said:
We've got to be funny behind them.
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Who’s the best comedian on here?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #142
Grendel said:
I doubt he found it funny
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I guess the Portsmouth team must be great comics then
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #143
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I guess the Portsmouth team must be great comics then
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Well he’s obviously not going to find a dire performance funny is he. People often laugh as a defence mechanism to divert from stress and embarrassment
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #144
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If I were him I’d have just wanted to go straight down the tunnel and forget I’d played that badly. He found it funny.
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Players don’t always have the same emotional responses to games as the fans (and for good reason). They don’t always run around screaming like lunatics after we score either.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #145
Grendel said:
Well he’s obviously not going to find a dire performance funny is he. People often laugh as a defence mechanism to divert from stress and embarrassment
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Not something I’ve ever noticed. Much like when half the team laughed after losing to Birmingham last season, it just looks unprofessional.
 

torchomatic

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #146
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I guess the Portsmouth team must be great comics then
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I was at Portsmouth. Heard the abuse being thrown at him after the heavy defeat. There's no way he was laughing about that. Weird to think he was.
 
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San Francisco

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #147
Saddlebrains said:
Ive had a beer with Collins and everyone was mocking him and he was laughing along. When passing him a beer it was remarked 'actually be careful you'll drop it'
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Seems like a good attitude for a professional footballer
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #148
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If I were him I’d have just wanted to go straight down the tunnel and forget I’d played that badly. He found it funny.
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How do you know he was laughing about letting in the goals?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #149
Sick Boy said:
How do you know he was laughing about letting in the goals?
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What do you think the Portsmouth lot were telling him? Knock knock jokes?
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #150
torchomatic said:
I was at Portsmouth. Heard the abuse being thrown at him after the heavy defeat. There's no way he was laughing about that. Weird to think he was.
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I don't think any of us can say how we'd react unless we'd been in that position. Everyone reacts differently to adverse situstions.

But the abuse he got was grim and as you yourself witnessed, it clearly upset him during the game. Shameful for those involved.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #151
One thing I took from our wilderness years and the seasons since is the difference fan support can make and the detriment boos/abuse/moans have.

During our darkest days, fans had the right to be angry but it was clear a lot of decent players found it difficult to play under the pressure of angry fans. No one took risks, players hid when they made a simple mistake.

Compare that to 2019-2021 where it was nothing but support. Players were playing with freedom. They were taking risks without fear of being moaned at. We'd go 2-0 down in the first half and the stadium was fully behind the team.

If Collins comes in next Saturday thinking 'I am going to get dogs abuse if I make just one mistake', you have big problems.

We need nothing but support for all players and the staff for these 8 games.
 
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fatso

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #152
Saddlebrains said:
The crux of it is, there's no getting away from the fact losing Dovin is a huge blow for us not just this last 7 games, but for the first quarter of next season (if worst case is indeed confirmed by scan)

Collins and Wilson are nowhere near the levels of Dovin. He has won us points on his own, we can all agree with that, whereas Laurel and Hardy have a habit of costing us points

None of us want Collins or Wilson inbetween the sticks (personally feel a yoghurt pot would command the box more) but hopefully this induces the defence to be as rock solid as they can to ensure the keepers now have the bare minimum work to do (hopefully Binks is nowhere near the side agin this year)

With Kitching back Saturday and probably DaSilva back in, that will hopefully improve things
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I think it's time to revert to 3-5-2 again now.
We will need the extra CH, and Wilson set the clean sheet record when we had 5 defenders and 2 defensive midfielders in front of him.
We can also give Wright and Simms a start together which hasn't happened under FL as yet, maybe he can get a decent tune out of them up front with Rudoni breaking forward from midfield.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #153
fatso said:
I think it's time to revert to 3-5-2 again now.
We will need the extra CH, and Wilson set the clean sheet record when we had 5 defenders and 2 defensive midfielders in front of him.
We can also give Wright and Simms a start together which hasn't happened under FL as yet, maybe he can get a decent tune out of them up front with Rudoni breaking forward from midfield.
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I would for Saturday at least.
Can revert back for Hull.
But the top 3 are different animals to the rest of the league and 4 at the back hasn't worked against Leeds or Sheffield Utd.
 
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peteCCFC

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #154
Saddlebrains said:
Ive had a beer with Collins and everyone was mocking him and he was laughing along. When passing him a beer it was remarked 'actually be careful you'll drop it'
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You should change your name to Stan.
The neediness is beyond comprehension at this point.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #155
pusbccfc said:
One thing I took from our wilderness years and the seasons since is the difference fan support can make and the detriment boos/abuse/moans have.

During our darkest days, fans had the right to be angry but it was clear a lot of decent players found it difficult to play under the pressure of angry fans. No one took risks, players hid when they made a simple mistake.

Compare that to 2019-2021 where it was nothing but support. Players were playing with freedom. They were taking risks without fear of being moaned at. We'd go 2-0 down in the first half and the stadium was fully behind the team.

If Collins comes in next Saturday thinking 'I am going to get dogs abuse if I make just one mistake', you have big problems.

We need nothing but support for all players and the staff for these 8 games.
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Absolutely this. Spot on.

They started around ne as soon as they saw Number 40 on Friday night. Wankers.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #156
peteCCFC said:
You should change your name to Stan.
The neediness is beyond comprehension at this point.
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Dear Rich, I wrote but you still ain’t callin’
 
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fatso

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #157
clint van damme said:
I would for Saturday at least.
Can revert back for Hull.
But the top 3 are different animals to the rest of the league and 4 at the back hasn't worked against Leeds or Sheffield Utd.
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Also, on recent form, we havnt got the best out of Bidwell and EMC, and I think a midfield 3 of Grimes, Rudoni and Torp/Allen/Sheaf with MvE and JDS flying down the wings could stretch most teams in this division.
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #158
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What do you think the Portsmouth lot were telling him? Knock knock jokes?
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Chinos, you've lost your head mate.

Some people laugh at themselves in situations like that, he doesn't find it funny. He is just trying to cope with know he's fucked up.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #159
David O'Day said:
Chinos, you've lost your head mate.

Some people laugh at themselves in situations like that, he doesn't find it funny. He is just trying to cope with know he's fucked up.
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At yourself perhaps, with the opposition who’s done it to you, perhaps not.
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #160
Brighton Sky Blue said:
At yourself perhaps, with the opposition who’s done it to you, perhaps not.
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no, people do both

you've jumped 17 sharks in this thread
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #161
David O'Day said:
no, people do both

you've jumped 17 sharks in this thread
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Of course.
 

SkyblueTexan

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #162
SBT said:
We have more serviceable backup options for Dovin than we do any other position on the pitch. You never want to lose an obvious starter to a serious injury, but Dovin may be the most replaceable of all of them - this is not the season-ending blow it’s being painted as.
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Not sure about that. If our defence was as solid as Burnley’s, I might agree with you. They can probably play with a traffic cone in goal and still keep a clean sheet.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #163
Maybe he was laughing at how tragic football fans can get when losing?
 
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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #164
Saddlebrains said:
The crux of it is, there's no getting away from the fact losing Dovin is a huge blow for us not just this last 7 games, but for the first quarter of next season (if worst case is indeed confirmed by scan)

Collins and Wilson are nowhere near the levels of Dovin. He has won us points on his own, we can all agree with that, whereas Laurel and Hardy have a habit of costing us points

None of us want Collins or Wilson inbetween the sticks (personally feel a yoghurt pot would command the box more) but hopefully this induces the defence to be as rock solid as they can to ensure the keepers now have the bare minimum work to do (hopefully Binks is nowhere near the side agin this year)

With Kitching back Saturday and probably DaSilva back in, that will hopefully improve things
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Kitchen,DaSilva whoever. If a shot is hit with any pace either side of Collins,he is directing traffic.
And if an attacker so much as looks in his direction, he is off.
(Must look good in training because he knows he won’t get touched).
 
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fatso

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #165
Old Warwickshire lad said:
Kitchen,DaSilva whoever. If a shot is hit with any pace either side of Collins,he is directing traffic.
And if an attacker so much as looks in his direction, he is off.
(Must look good in training because he knows he won’t get touched).
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I know this is going to sound completely alien to a few people on here, but maybe, just maybe, we should get behind whoever is in goal, and perhaps show some confidence in them.

At least to start off with.
Instead of giving off a sence of dread and waiting, (or in some cases wanting) a fuck up to happen.
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #166
fatso said:
I know this is going to sound completely alien to a few people on here, but maybe, just maybe, we should get behind whoever is in goal, and perhaps show some confidence in them.

At least to start off with.
Instead of giving off a sence of dread and waiting, (or in some cases wanting) a fuck up to happen.
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And the end of the day, these are our own players.

I don't see how berating them and shouting abuse at them at every opportunity, is going to help anything.
 
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Robinshio

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #167
If it came to it. Dovin is the only one of our keepers who could save a penalty!!
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #168
Robinshio said:
If it came to it. Dovin is the only one of our keepers who could save a penalty!!
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collins saved one at Wembley
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #169
larry_david said:
Urgh why didn't he just fucking clear the ball. There was literally nothing to gain from trying to do what he did
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Pretty sure the contact would probably have been the same. I thought the same, but when you watch back I don't think he would've avoided it.
 

torchomatic

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #170
Robinshio said:
If it came to it. Dovin is the only one of our keepers who could save a penalty!!
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We don't count Collins' save at Wembley then?
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #171
TomRad85 said:
That fucking wanker Campbell. Make no mistake, knew what he was upto and some on here fawn over the way they play. Horrible cunts and always will be, hope their entire team get their ankles snapped.
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Yeah, it’s not normally the done thing to will ill on another to these extremes but I’m 100% on board with this.
Hamer exclude of course. (sigh )
 

Tommo1993

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #172
torchomatic said:
We don't count Collins' save at Wembley then?
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When I think of that, I’m gutted we didn’t pick on Casemiro more in the 90 mins. He’s an awful centre back and when Wright did run at him, he was fucked.
 

Shannerz

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #173
Grendel said:
collins saved one at Wembley
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Wilson saved one in the League.

(I think) since we came up, the only one that's not gone in during the game itself. Until the Cup semi last season, in shoot outs, too.

A disproportionate amount of penalties go in against us. Not blaming the keepers (any of them), but nobody's clattered one off the bar, or slipped, or toe-ended one into the keeper's arms, any of the things that sometimes happen with a penalty.
 
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long way home

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #174
Its next man up, nothing can be done so im sure FL will be telling the players to get on with it and get the last game put behind them. It was going to be tough for us to get promoted with Dovin, now its tougher but its still in our hands. If we are a good enough squad things will look after themselves.

As for Dovin hope its a minimal damage and he gets the best support and a straightforward rehab to come back stronger.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Mar 30, 2025
  • #175
long way home said:
Its next man up, nothing can be done so im sure FL will be telling the players to get on with it and get the last game put behind them. It was going to be tough for us to get promoted with Dovin, now its tougher but its still in our hands. If we are a good enough squad things will look after themselves.

As for Dovin hope its a minimal damage and he gets the best support and a straightforward rehab to come back stronger.
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Exactly, Since lampards been here we’ve been missing important players and we’re still in with a shout, pretty sure if Collins does come in and struggles then Wilson steps in, we‘ll just have to start scoring a few more
 
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