Independent Arbitration Service Now Required ?? (2 Viewers)

There is no independent body in this or most markets. Sisu want to acquire ownership of the Ricoh, associated companies: they need to approach them with an offer and get a response/negotiate.

Good thinking. ACAS still exists but whether they would/could get involved I'm not sure. Certainly when I was working in the car industry they were very good at getting rid of the rubbish and getting things sorted.

http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1461

No, it's quite simple. The practice has been very successful for generations. If you want to buy a property, you make an offer and if the vendor thinks that it matches its expectation, then the offer is accepted. If it doesn't match its expectations, then the vendor will inform the potential purchaser accordingly and why. Negotiations will then proceed.

SISU don't seem to understand how business is done normally..smoke and mirrors and misinformation and insulting and criticising the vendor publicly, is not the way to do business!

johnniericoh said:

Things appear to be moving at last but who is going to be the driving force/negotiator/arbiter to bring all the interested parties together to ensure impartial leadership and ultimate resolution without major fisticuffs.

Years ago there was an independent entity called ACAS (Advisory Conciliation and Arbitration Services) that was called in to settle management and trade union disputes and settlements were considered binding after ACAS recommendations.

Now is the time for this sort of independent resource to be fronting the current crisis facing our club that can be totally impartial and be clearly seen as the arbiters to keep the various factions talking to eventual finality.

One can but hope.

Thoughts

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Don't want to piss on your fireworks johnnie but I don't think 'things appear to be moving at last'.

Even if Ms Seppala does come to the table, and that's a huge if, I believe there will be a massive gulf between offer price and acceptable price. And as rental is not an option for Ms S (imo), the future looks bleak.

It does need someone with no agenda to act as a go between. This person needs to stay out of the press and work to ensure that the communication is geared to resolution of the problem not blaming each other.

No such person exists, and it is unclear if all sides would even pay attention to the person if they didn't like the resulting deal.

Good idea but not likely to be used. What we have instead is people with their own agenda trying to boost their own profiles acting as the negotiator.

there's only one way to settle this, Fighttttt!

GaryPendrysEyes said:

There is no independent body in this or most markets. Sisu want to acquire ownership of the Ricoh, associated companies: they need to approach them with an offer and get a response/negotiate.

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I agree with you. They're so far apart that they haven't even got something to conciliate over. It's not like an industrial relations dispute.

Can't see the point of an arbitrator. They're only really needed when an agreement has to be reached. With this one, it is a case of SISU making an offer (with whatever strings attached) that is acceptable. If not, no sale.

From the Trust Q&A:

"30: Are ACL willing to be bound by an agreement brokered by independent mediators or arbitrator?

ACL: No. We have put our best and final offer on the table after months of negotiation with both SISU and CCFC. It was a reasonable and generous offer, as recognised by all 3 CCFC directors in attendance on 29 January 2013, as they verbally accepted it and shook hands in confirmation. We are not prepared to make further concessions, nor do we believe that any mediator could reasonably expect that we would. The ball is in CCFC’s court. Negotiations are now at an end, and the Board of CCFC have been duly notified.

CCFC: Yes. Any Arbitrator(s) would need to look at matters such as the lawfulness of the original licence, the financial viability of ACL, monies paid to ACL for utilities/other services and the fact there appears to be no contract for these and the monies paid by CCFC to ACL during the period of the dispute."