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alexccfc99

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  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #211
fatso said:
True, but I don't think they cost much, so as such probably worth a punt, and the best we could get for our budget back then.

Waghorn was a quality player, who looked to of lost his pace.

Clarke Harris had all the attributes and tbf has had a fantastic scoring record since leaving. Rumour has it his attitude may have been questionable at times.

Walker had scored goals elsewhere, but was just lazy imo, and Mcguire was a decent player, just never a goalscorer.

Interestingly these "failures" occurred under our stats driven recruitment policy!!!! (#shmmeee) just saying
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Quality was a stretch - he was a very good championship player in his day but they'd long gone with us

He is on record stating he never wanted to leave Derby anyway and had they not have been in complete meltdown financially we would have never signed him
 
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Deity

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  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #212
alexccfc99 said:
Quality was a stretch - he was a very good championship player in his day but they'd long gone with us

He is on record stating he never wanted to leave Derby anyway and had they not have been in complete meltdown financially we would have never signed him
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I seem to recall Robins wanted Waghorn against the advice of our the small scouting team.
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #213
Expect things to start moving both ways from midweek
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #214
Me after a dodgy curry:

Saddlebrains said:
Expect things to start moving both ways
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LastChance

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  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #215
ProfessorbyGrace said:
Just for reference, a players height doesn’t always equate to aerial ability. In fact, I’ve seen loads of short arses who can out-jump comparatively taller, stronger players; Fabio Cannavaro being one of them.

Jan Koller, the Czech striker who was built like a pole vaulter (202cm/6’’7’’) was atrocious in the air.

Obviously there are more than those examples, like Sean Flynn for us who was about 5’7’’ and would often somehow manage to out-jump most players.

Lower centre of gravity + less muscle mass can often allow a short arse to ‘spring’ more than, say, a strapping defender of greater height. Physics innit.
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And shorter players with a lower centre of gravity generally have better mobility and balance. That, along with timing, made the already mentioned David Speedie a great example. He scored loads of goals with his head
 
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larry_david

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  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #216
Saddlebrains said:
Expect things to start moving both ways from midweek
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Here we go!
 

itsabuzzard

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  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #217
fernandopartridge said:
Standard when the writing is on the wall about a player going. I think he's looked decent every time I've seen him.
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covcity4life said:
But mine are always right. So if you hire people who actually know football we will be ok
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So you want paying for casting your pearls before the swine?
 
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ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #218
LastChance said:
And shorter players with a lower centre of gravity generally have better mobility and balance. That, along with timing, made the already mentioned David Speedie a great example. He scored loads of goals with his head
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Yes, balance and mobility are key, as well.

That’s why we see the gangly, overly tall players having worse balance, questionable mobility and therefore less jumping ability, than a short arse like Speedie or Flynn. Zola as well, who had a great leap on him.
 
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Gint11

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  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #219
Saddlebrains said:
Expect things to start moving both ways from midweek
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Any whisperings then? Browne, rudoni?
 

Otis

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  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #220
Saddlebrains said:
Expect things to start moving both ways from midweek
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I notice you didn't say which midweek.

And also said "from."

I can go to B&Q and it will say garden furniture "from" £59.99. Bit of a shock when you actually go in and the one that you like that's anything like half decent is £799.99.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #221
Saddlebrains said:
Expect things to start moving both ways from midweek
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I assume this is when they’re all back from Vegas
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #222
shmmeee said:
I assume this is when they’re all back from Vegas
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Unsure mate, I am under the impression its Robins and Adi back from their breaks, and they want to crack on with getting the main ones through the door ( would assume that also means those they want out can also progress)
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #223
Saddlebrains said:
Unsure mate, I am under the impression its Robins and Adi back from their breaks, and they want to crack on with getting the main ones through the door ( would assume that also means those they want out can also progress)
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Sounds like it’s more about incomings then?
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #224
Saddlebrains said:
Expect things to start moving both ways from midweek
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This is almost the platonic ideal of a vague and uncontestable ITK nugget, no pre-season cobwebs to shake off here.
 
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Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #225
SBT said:
This is almost the platonic ideal of a vague and uncontestable ITK nugget, no pre-season cobwebs to shake off here.
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Well I've got to come back with tail between my legs.

Robins and Adi go away this week, not come back.

That will teach me for not listening properly.

Feel free to chastise me all, you have until 9pm for abuse
 
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Otis

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  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #226
Saddlebrains said:
Well I've got to come back with tail between my legs.

Robins and Adi go away this week, not come back.

That will teach me for not listening properly.

Feel free to chastise me all, you have until 9pm for abuse
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So as you weren't listening properly, could it be we are more likely to get someone called Alan, who is brown, rather than a player called Alan Browne?
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #227
Saddlebrains said:
Well I've got to come back with tail between my legs.

Robins and Adi go away this week, not come back.

That will teach me for not listening properly.

Feel free to chastise me all, you have until 9pm for abuse
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Duck's in a row then?
That's not Row by me the way!!
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #228
Saddlebrains said:
Well I've got to come back with tail between my legs.

Robins and Adi go away this week, not come back.

That will teach me for not listening properly.

Feel free to chastise me all, you have until 9pm for abuse
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So nothing moving next week then
 
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Chris1987

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  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #229
Ground breaking. Something may happen next week , something might not but probably there will be something happening after next week.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jun 1, 2024
  • #230
Saddlebrains said:
Well I've got to come back with tail between my legs.

Robins and Adi go away this week, not come back.

That will teach me for not listening properly.

Feel free to chastise me all, you have until 9pm for abuse
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To be fair, doesn't mean things won't still move next week, just might not be announced.
 
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long way home

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2024
  • #231
They would of been working with Austin and Doug closely on plans and having talks with potentially targets over the last fews weeks. I would imagine some deals are already agreed in principle or its just a matter of waiting for answers on offers we have made.

With the window open on the 14th, going away which would of pre planned makes sense. Could be a quiet couple of weeks yet, but just hope we are ahead in a few deals to get a good start for preseason.

Browne, Rudoni and Leonard would be a nice 3 to start the build up to the players returning.
 
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skyblueeyesrevisited

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  • Jun 2, 2024
  • #232
Chris1987 said:
Ground breaking. Something may happen next week , something might not but probably there will be something happening after next week.
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I’ve just worked out that Saddlebrains is in fact Keir Starmer All options are on the table and some more are probably underneath
 
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CovLis86

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  • Jun 2, 2024
  • #233
I guess 2 million can sound like 10 million @stgeorge1966
 
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stgeorge1966

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  • Jun 2, 2024
  • #234
I have a different source than this Nixon fella... I am only posting what I have been told... If I am wrong I am wrong but this source is usually spot on....Keep things to myself in future if you want me too ..
 
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Deity

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2024
  • #235
The curious thing is who has leaked the valuation to Nixon. Normally it’s obvious.

im not sure it’s in anyone’s interest ….

The valuation is so extreme that any other club is put off…. Doesn’t work for Rudoni or Huddersfield and Cov don’t need to leak it.
 
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ProfessorbyGrace

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2024
  • #236
BREAKING NEWS:

Coventry City sign Alain Braun from obscure French team La Orange, for a few sheep and a goat.

In other news Callum O’Hare still hasn’t packed his bags and fucked off, because nobody wants him anymore.

ANOTHER CET EXCLUSIVE.
 
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fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2024
  • #237
Saddlebrains said:
Well I've got to come back with tail between my legs.

Robins and Adi go away this week, not come back.

That will teach me for not listening properly.

Feel free to chastise me all, you have until 9pm for abuse
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Ffs, you can't trust any fucker these days!
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2024
  • #238
stgeorge1966 said:
I have a different source than this Nixon fella... I am only posting what I have been told... If I am wrong I am wrong but this source is usually spot on....Keep things to myself in future if you want me too ..
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It's Nixon guys, when will people learn?
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2024
  • #239
Saddlebrains said:
Well I've got to come back with tail between my legs.

Robins and Adi go away this week, not come back.

That will teach me for not listening properly.

Feel free to chastise me all, you have until 9pm for abuse
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Seems an odd time to go away. You'd think they'd get the holidays out of the way as soon as the season is over.
 
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Deity

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 2, 2024
  • #240
Samo said:
Seems an odd time to go away. You'd think they'd get the holidays out of the way as soon as the season is over.
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Robins spoke last summer about his various zoom meetings with players etc and endless phone calls.

He maybe away but he won’t be off.
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • Jun 2, 2024
  • #241
ProfessorbyGrace said:
Just for reference, a players height doesn’t always equate to aerial ability. In fact, I’ve seen loads of short arses who can out-jump comparatively taller, stronger players; Fabio Cannavaro being one of them.

Jan Koller, the Czech striker who was built like a pole vaulter (202cm/6’’7’’) was atrocious in the air.

Obviously there are more than those examples, like Sean Flynn for us who was about 5’7’’ and would often somehow manage to out-jump most players.

Lower centre of gravity + less muscle mass can often allow a short arse to ‘spring’ more than, say, a strapping defender of greater height. Physics innit.
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He wasn't on Pro Evo. I still have nightmares of my brother crossing it into him!
 
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Hobo

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  • Jun 2, 2024
  • #242
Samo said:
Seems an odd time to go away. You'd think they'd get the holidays out of the way as soon as the season is over.
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Why because it suits you? They already sacrifice most weekends and public holidays during the year.
 
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Samo

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  • Jun 2, 2024
  • #243
Hobo said:
Why because it suits you? They already sacrifice most weekends and public holidays during the year.
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Alright pal, wind your neck in, no blowey this weekend?
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Jun 2, 2024
  • #244
Just feel like this one will get done, Robins always been a big admirer.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Jun 2, 2024
  • #245
fatso said:
It's Nixon guys, when will people learn?
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Don’t say that, his worshippers will start crying.
 
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