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CovBrummie94

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #106
Happy with how the squad is shaping up. Sign a LWB and I’d be happy going into the new season. Obviously replace any of the “big 3” if they leave.


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blunted

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #107
Think this signing along with Palmer is Adi being asked to get them back on track (like he did with (JCS). Both Panzo and Palmer have not quite lived up to the promise shown earlier in their careers. They have been sold for £3.5 and £1.5 million respectively so did show great promise previously. Adi said Palmer needs to be shown the love and perhaps Panzo is the same.
 
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Fergusons_Beard

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #108
Do people seriously believe that Calamity McFadzean will last a whole campaign playing every game?

No chance.

Brilliant recruitment, providing cover and a touch of class.

Both of the loans will play a significant part of the season


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Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #109
Otis said:
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My daughter actually went to see these play on Monday night in London .
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My nephews in that band
 
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Nick

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #110
Torquay Sky Blue said:
My nephews in that band
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Are you related to Canuck sky blue?
 

Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #111
Nick said:
Are you related to Canuck sky blue?
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Rumbled
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #112
Good to have defensive cover. Think this may be with view to a permanent.

One specialist LWB and no sales and i'll be happy enough with our transfers/
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #113
Liquid Gold said:
MR never gives up on a player he likes the look of.
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Like Chaplin? And Walker?
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #114
CanuckSkyBlue said:
That’s actually my cousins band haha, saw them in Vancouver when he was over.

Not the easiest name to discuss round the dinner table.
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Haha, this is an amazing sub-plot to this thread and sums up SBT rather well
 
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Great_Expectations

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #115
Not sure of the negativity around this, or in general.

We’ve lost one CB and replaced him with two. Both young but not necessarily less experienced than JCS, as pointed out by others. I also think we’re in danger of looking back with rose tinted glasses here, JCS was good and I’d have liked to have retained him, but he hasn’t set some unreachable standard.

Panzo was once really highly thought of and for us to pursue for so long, MR (likely pushed by AV) clearly sees something.

Appreciate things could change, but as it stands we’re brought in three, not lost any key players and are still recruiting. One LBW away from taking us into the season with a
 
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procdoc

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #116
Those that are slating Doyle & Panzo, who were you expecting us to sign? Robins knows more than you all combined lets be honest
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #117
Great_Expectations said:
Appreciate things could change, but as it stands we’re brought in three, not lost any key players and are still recruiting. One LBW away from taking us into the season with a
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C’mon the suspense is killing me……….
 
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skyblue025

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #118
I think that will be it for defensive reinforcements. Both the loans can/have played at LWB and CB and with our limited budget I'm guessing any other players coming in will be further forward.
 

TomRad85

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #119
shmmeee said:
Like him on his own, just concerned about him and Doyle, unless one is playing LWB
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I can't be bothered to read this whole thread but everyone seems hung up on the left foot so must be playing LCB thing. Couldn't one of them play the Fadz position?

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SleepyGinger

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #120
TomRad85 said:
I can't be bothered to read this whole thread but everyone seems hung up on the left foot so must be playing LCB thing. Couldn't one of them play the Fadz position?

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I can’t see it, Panzo has played most his professional career at left back and Doyle looks like he struggles aerially which isn’t ideal for the middle of the back 3
 

Jamesimus

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #121
Fergusons_Beard said:
Do people seriously believe that Calamity McFadzean will last a whole campaign playing every game?



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Bit harsh that. Made the least mistakes out of all the centre backs last season I thought and when he played he was generally good.

But I do agree that his age could be a factor in how many games he plays this season.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #122
SleepyGinger said:
I can’t see it, Panzo has played most his professional career at left back and Doyle looks like he struggles aerially which isn’t ideal for the middle of the back 3
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Nothing that can’t be trained, I’m sure as he grows older and works on it, he will 100% improve
 

WGABSOOS

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #123
SleepyGinger said:
I can’t see it, Panzo has played most his professional career at left back and Doyle looks like he struggles aerially which isn’t ideal for the middle of the back 3
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At forest he played left side of a back three. Exactly where he will play for us
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #124
SleepyGinger said:
I can’t see it, Panzo has played most his professional career at left back and Doyle looks like he struggles aerially which isn’t ideal for the middle of the back 3
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Has he?
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #125
Great_Expectations said:
Not sure of the negativity around this, or in general.

We’ve lost one CB and replaced him with two. Both young but not necessarily less experienced than JCS, as pointed out by others. I also think we’re in danger of looking back with rose tinted glasses here, JCS was good and I’d have liked to have retained him, but he hasn’t set some unreachable standard.

Panzo was once really highly thought of and for us to pursue for so long, MR (likely pushed by AV) clearly sees something.

Appreciate things could change, but as it stands we’re brought in three, not lost any key players and are still recruiting. One LBW away from taking us into the season with a
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They have considerably less experience than Clarke Salter at this level

Adam Barton and Connor Thomas were highly rated once
 
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Nick

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #126
Grendel said:
They have considerably less experience than Clarke Salter at this level

Adam Barton and Connor Thomas were highly rated once
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Clarke Salter was not an experienced CB, he near enough played more for us than he had before.
 

mmttww

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #127
Grendel said:
Adam Barton and Connor Thomas were highly rated once
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Must've missed those two signing for Monaco from a PL academy then being sold for £1.5m to a promotion chasing side, or winning the U19s Euros and getting first team games aged seventeen while on loan from the best team in England. Maybe compare apples with apples, mate.
 
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procdoc

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #128
Grendel said:
They have considerably less experience than Clarke Salter at this level

Adam Barton and Connor Thomas were highly rated once
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What have Adam Barton and Conor Thomas got to do with anything?
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #129
Grendel said:
They have considerably less experience than Clarke Salter at this level

Adam Barton and Connor Thomas were highly rated once
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I know i am in a small minority but i didn't think JCS was that good
 
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Nick

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #130
Deleted member 9744 said:
I know i am in a small minority but i didn't think JCS was that good
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He had some good games and some bad games. Since he signed for QPR though it's like he's Ruben Dias.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #131
mmttww said:
Must've missed those two signing for Monaco from a PL academy then being sold for £1.5m to a promotion chasing side, or winning the U19s Euros and getting first team games aged seventeen while on loan from the best team in England. Maybe compare apples with apples, mate.
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Kastaneer signed for a Dutch premier league side. Roy o Donovan played in tbe English premier league

If he’s they good why did he make one 65 minute appearance at Forest? Was he injured?
 
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Nick

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #132
Grendel said:
Kastaneer signed for a Dutch premier league side. Roy o Donovan played in tbe English premier league

If he’s they good why did he make one 65 minute appearance at Forest? Was he injured?
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Why was the messiah JCS labelled a "Birmingham Reject" when he first signed?

Surely we just wait and see after a few games and see if Panzo is any good?
 
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WGABSOOS

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #133
Nick said:
Why was the messiah JCS labelled a "Birmingham Reject" when he first signed?

Surely we just wait and see after a few games and see if Panzo is any good?
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We all know players only get a single friendly before they are judged on here
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #134
Nick said:
Why was the messiah JCS labelled a "Birmingham Reject" when he first signed?

Surely we just wait and see after a few games and see if Panzo is any good?
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Well I was replying to someone pleased with the signing who also doesn’t know if he’s any good

It’s likely that Mcfazdean will feature less now and so it’s legitimate to be concerned with have signed 2 players who’ve between them 65 minutes experience in this league
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #135
mmttww said:
Must've missed those two signing for Monaco from a PL academy then being sold for £1.5m to a promotion chasing side, or winning the U19s Euros and getting first team games aged seventeen while on loan from the best team in England. Maybe compare apples with apples, mate.
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He was let go from Monaco and Dijon after two years, both times. Then joined Forest and barely played 90mins in four months. Granted he was probably never going to get ahead of their back three though.

Seemingly he's lived on his success during his youth career and done little since.

It's definitely a wait and see signing.
 

Briles

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #136
Deleted member 9744 said:
I know i am in a small minority but i didn't think JCS was that good
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I think a lot of fans deem "good" as "not shit". Which kind of muddles the thinking on here sometimes.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #137
Briles said:
I think a lot of fans deem "good" as "not shit". Which kind of muddles the thinking on here sometimes.
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I thought JCS was excellent when fit last season (“when fit” being my only concern about him), quick, powerful, good with the ball. Would have loved him back, class above Fadz and Hyam IMO.
 

Briles

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #138
shmmeee said:
I thought JCS was excellent when fit last season (“when fit” being my only concern about him), quick, powerful, good with the ball. Would have loved him back, class above Fadz and Hyam IMO.
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Blew hot and cold for me. Would have been happy for him to come back but not upset he hasn't. Solid loan.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #139
Deleted member 9744 said:
I know i am in a small minority but i didn't think JCS was that good
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I think he's a pretty solid player at this level and added a whole new dynamic to our backline that was sorely lacking the season before last.

That said I wasn't disappointed that he didn't re-sign. His injury record is nothing short of sketchy.
 
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mmttww

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #140
Grendel said:
Kastaneer signed for a Dutch premier league side. Roy o Donovan played in tbe English premier league

If he’s they good why did he make one 65 minute appearance at Forest? Was he injured?
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Neither of the new names you've thrown out came to us from even vaguely comparable situations to the two signings we've just made.

No idea why Panzo didn't play. Someone here said Forest had a better player in his position. Maybe that's why, maybe not, but that wasn't my point.

O'Hare was let go, played no games. Vik got sh*t reviews at Swansea. No one knew about Hamer before he signed. Panzo might be good. Let's see.

I think we've got a good track record for bringing in players in similar situations over the last few years so that, for me, is cause for optimism.

Maatsen, Stirling, JCS, Sheaf, O'Hare, Dabo, Ostigaard, Vik. Players that didn't make it at their academy clubs or were early on in that journey.
 
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