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clint van damme

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #526
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Frankly, I don’t think those managers would be averaging better than 1.8 points without our 3 best players.

Robins, RVN and Bloomfield have won less games than Lampard combined. RVN is averaging 0.85 points a game and a 23% win rate is worse than Lampard at Everton, for reference and if we’re judging them by the same standards as you and others judged Lampard.
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They probably wouldn't, but again we'll never know for sure.
As for judging Lampard, since the day he walked in the door, I've been behind him and only interested in what he does here. Unlike some I genuinely don't care what he did at Everton.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #527
shmmeee said:
His record is pretty much what he’s doing here. Tactically poor, reliant on an outstanding performer (in this case Dovin) and not massively improving the teams situation while spending a fair amount (£4m on Grimes). You don’t need to watch every game there’s this thing called the internet where people who have sit around discussing them all day.

I know we’re in a purple patch so you’re not allowed to say it and it’s crowing season and I will still change my avatar if we’re still in this form at the end of the month, but we are 10th with a squad that finished 9th last season. Let’s have a little perspective.
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Team in reliance on goalkeeper to save shots shock
 
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TomRad85

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #528
shmmeee said:
Gus was absolutely an instant success. I’m not sure how this meme took hold tbh.
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Finally something I agree with.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #529
shmmeee said:
Gus was absolutely an instant success. I’m not sure how this meme took hold tbh.
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He was sent off on his debut and struggled to settle was my memory of his first season with us . Even as late as the playoff season he was still having disciplinary problems .
I agree he looked good from the off but an instant success is pushing it
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #530
Nick said:
The fuck are you on about now? Just weird.

Is there some trauma from Robins going that makes you think before he left we were smashing everybody 7-0 every week?
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For some reason people have misremembered the Robins era as being all flowing football and winning 4-0 every week, when it is what most Championship games are, tight and winning by the odd goal.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #531
Perennial Lurker said:
He was sent off on his debut and struggled to settle was my memory of his first season with us . Even as late as the playoff season he was still having disciplinary problems .
I agree he looked good from the off but an instant success is pushing it
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TBF he started well but lost form to the extent that he lost his place in the side after we were beaten at QPR. I think the players had a big meeting afterwards and from then we won a couple to pretty much guarantee safety.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #532
shmmeee said:
This is what I mean though. In reality we’ve gone from 14th to 10th and you’re making it out like some all time great achievement. Hence my poking in this thread.
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We were 17th after the Burnley game, 2 points above the bottom 3.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #533
Perennial Lurker said:
He was sent off on his debut and struggled to settle was my memory of his first season with us . Even as late as the playoff season he was still having disciplinary problems .
I agree he looked good from the off but an instant success is pushing it
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He was one of our best players from day one. He got sent off after four games thanks to the Bournemouth player taking a dive and that set his reputation.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #534
fernandopartridge said:
TBF he started well but lost form to the extent that he lost his place in the side after we were beaten at QPR. I think the players had a big meeting afterwards and from then we won a couple to pretty much guarantee safety.
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Wasn't he homesick for a lot of his early days with us
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #535
shmmeee said:
He was one of our best players from day one. He got sent off after four games thanks to the Bournemouth player taking a dive and that set his reputation.
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All about opinions I guess
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #536
Can't argue with the results.

I think the performances have been mixed at best & there have been some strange tactical decisions.
Now we are in touching distance of the playoffs though, the results are all that matters. If we do happen to make it though, we will need to be much better to stand a chance imo.
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #537
Frostie said:
Can't argue with the results.

I think the performances have been mixed at best & there have been some strange tactical decisions.
Now we are in touching distance of the playoffs though, the results are all that matters. If we do happen to make it though, we will need to be much better to stand a chance imo.
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Basically. Prepare for the destruction of your mentions.
 

Balli001

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #538
shmmeee said:
Basically. Prepare for the destruction of your mentions.
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Except you spent the last few pages telling us its performances that matter not results. Do you want to pick a side?
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #539
Balli001 said:
Except you spent the last few pages telling us its performances that matter not results. Do you want to pick a side?
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I’ve not said that. I’ve said that the football is shite but you can’t argue with the results. I just don’t think they’re sustainable or a knock out competition winnable without better. I don’t think he’s got it in him to outwit another manager or get the players playing above themselves. He’s an expensive way to get about average from your squad.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #540
Frostie said:
If we do happen to make it though, we will need to be much better to stand a chance imo.
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Which pretty much goes for all the teams chasing 5th and 6th place
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #541
fernandopartridge said:
For some reason people have misremembered the Robins era as being all flowing football and winning 4-0 every week, when it is what most Championship games are, tight and winning by the odd goal.
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Absolutely. The foundation of that team was a solid defence that kept clean sheets with a sprinkle of brilliance in Hamer and Vik. We definitely rode our luck and may not have even made the playoffs in 22/23 had it not been for Wilson’s goal at Blackburn away.
 
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baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #542
Perennial Lurker said:
He was sent off on his debut and struggled to settle was my memory of his first season with us . Even as late as the playoff season he was still having disciplinary problems .
I agree he looked good from the off but an instant success is pushing it
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If I remember,he started to become better after he got sent off v Blues
 
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TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #543
Frostie said:
Can't argue with the results.

I think the performances have been mixed at best & there have been some strange tactical decisions.
Now we are in touching distance of the playoffs though, the results are all that matters. If we do happen to make it though, we will need to be much better to stand a chance imo.
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If you can't argue with the results how can the tactical decisions be strange? They have literally got us the results you can't argue with.
 
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mmttww

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #544
covcity4life said:
This clown has no support from anyone anymore.
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Stick to speaking for yourself. He's got an opinion, I agree with some of what he says. I disagree with some of it, and I'll discuss it. If you're not capable of the same and want to turn it into Primary School popularity bullsh*t, you're the problem, not him.
 
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Shannerz

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #545
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Absolutely. The foundation of that team was a solid defence that kept clean sheets with a sprinkle of brilliance in Hamer and Vik. We definitely rode our luck and may not have even made the playoffs in 22/23 had it not been for Wilson’s goal at Blackburn away.
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One of my absolute favourite CCFC moments.
 
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ovduk78

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #546
baldy said:
If I remember,he started to become better after he got sent off v Blues
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After he was sent off at Blues there were a few on here who wanted us to get rid of him
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #547
mmttww said:
Stick to speaking for yourself. He's got an opinion, I agree with some of what he says. I disagree with some of it, and I'll discuss it. If you're not capable of the same and want to turn it into Primary School popularity bullsh*t, you're the problem, not him.
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Hahah you crying so much lately. I didn't even know you existed till a few days ago but you seem obsessed with me
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #548
TomRad85 said:
If you can't argue with the results how can the tactical decisions be strange? They have literally got us the results you can't argue with.
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Doesn't mean they are sustainable. Our xG numbers have dropped off quite a bit since the turn of the year for example. Also, our weaknesses are more likely to be exploited by better sides. As @clint van damme rightly says though, we're not alone in that.
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #549
I knew the Lampard pile on would come back at some point, I just didn't expect it to be when he's won 5 of his last 6 league games and got us in touching distance of play offs. Truly strange stuff.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #550
Frostie said:
Doesn't mean they are sustainable. Our xG numbers have dropped off quite a bit since the turn of the year for example. Also, our weaknesses are more likely to be exploited by better sides. As @clint van damme rightly says though, we're not alone in that.
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Oh damn, I was really loving all our xG victories.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #551
TomRad85 said:
I knew the Lampard pile on would come back at some point, I just didn't expect it to be when he's won 5 of his last 6 league games and got us in touching distance of play offs. Truly strange stuff.
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It's hardly a pile on. Posters are allowed to question decisions and style of play under Lampard . We're all still Cov fans
 
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ovduk78

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #552
TomRad85 said:
I knew the Lampard pile on would come back at some point, I just didn't expect it to be when he's won 5 of his last 6 league games and got us in touching distance of play offs. Truly strange stuff.
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It is hardly a pile on, we are allowed to be critical of FL and still back him
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #553
TomRad85 said:
I knew the Lampard pile on would come back at some point, I just didn't expect it to be when he's won 5 of his last 6 league games and got us in touching distance of play offs. Truly strange stuff.
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Crazy isn't it? Also don't forget the injuries. He's doing a great job and we should be excited about the prospect of returning players
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #554
Again...5 wins in 6 and there's still complaining.
 
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TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #555
ovduk78 said:
It is hardly a pile on, we are allowed to be critical of FL and still back him
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Strangely people digging a lot deeper into a winning Lampard than they were into a losing Robins. Almost like they can't let it go or something.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #556
Sick Boy said:
Again...5 wins in 6 and there's still complaining.
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Who's complaining? There seems to be a weird obsession against any hint of criticism against FL .
Im delighted we are where we are but I will feel fit to questions things like a high defensive line against good teams without being called Anti-Lampard or Pro-Robins
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #557
Frostie said:
Doesn't mean they are sustainable. Our xG numbers have dropped off quite a bit since the turn of the year for example. Also, our weaknesses are more likely to be exploited by better sides. As @clint van damme rightly says though, we're not alone in that.
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We remain the biggest underperformers of xG by a long distance mind
 
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mmttww

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #558
covcity4life said:
I didn't even know you existed till a few days ago...
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I'm truly crushed by this. Enjoy your internet!
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #559
Frostie said:
Doesn't mean they are sustainable. Our xG numbers have dropped off quite a bit since the turn of the year for example. Also, our weaknesses are more likely to be exploited by better sides. As @clint van damme rightly says though, we're not alone in that.
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To be honest I'm not really worried about the better sides for now.
As long as we hold our own against those around us we should be OK.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Feb 13, 2025
  • #560
clint van damme said:
To be honest I'm not really worried about the better sides for now.
As long as we hold our own against those around us we should be OK.
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We have momentum, the players appear more confident and we have some of our better players returning. Should be an exciting run in
 
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