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I'm enjoying the Sky Blues Talk Meltdown !!! (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jun 25, 2014
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #36
sky blue john said:
I'm not enjoying CCFC playing at Sixfields.
I'm not enjoying CCFC having 50-70million debt.
I'm not enjoying CCFC paying Arvo 1.8million a year in interest.
I'm not enjoying that CCFC as it stands has no future !!
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Things look serious. Time to pick up the phone.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #37
covcity4life said:
maybe one silver lining from all this we can see who has the club at heart. hopefully that can stop so much squabbling.
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I'm an old romantic who thinks we all have the club at heart (and anyone who doesn't seriously​ needs to get a life, WTF trolling some L1 team).
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #38
sky blue john said:
I'm not enjoying CCFC playing at Sixfields.
I'm not enjoying CCFC having 50-70million debt.
I'm not enjoying CCFC paying Arvo 1.8million a year in interest.
I'm not enjoying that CCFC as it stands has no future !!
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Well in that case, perhaps you should also ask Michael just to answer the fucking phone....if it ever rings...

I'm starting to think the "offer" has no depth, no detail & therefore no legs whatsoever......and IS actually just the empty gesture that it originally appeared to be.


Answer the phone & prove me wrong!!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #39
blueflint said:
basically because you blindly question anybody who disagrees with your opinion.as for michael if he wants to front a proposal to return coventry to the Ricoh he should keep as much of that proposal private until the other parties involved can
read or understand them fully.
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I ask questions to try and see their opinion and figure out why they think that as you never know I might think one day "oh shit, I see what they mean". I am asking about this deal to hopefully be convinced by it. You don't learn if you dont ask questions.

Much better than just blindly nagging and abusing people who disagree though isn't it? Then blindly follow people who shout the same slogan that week without actually asking any questions?

I agree but if it was private then why is he making statements and going to the CET?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #40
wince said:
so what was his reply ??
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Waiting for confirmation that I can post it up.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #41
I don't get the issue with asking sensible questions about the rent offer. People just want to know if it is likely to be accepted or not. From the scant detail available I would say it will be rejected as would mean Sisu effectively paying the rent on the face of it. People just want to know what the fine detail is that may make the club take it seriously.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #42
mark82 said:
I don't get the issue with asking sensible questions about the rent offer. People just want to know if it is likely to be accepted or not. From the scant detail available I would say it will be rejected as would mean Sisu effectively paying the rent on the face of it. People just want to know what the fine detail is that may make the club take it seriously.
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I think most (and by that I mean, I think and am arrogant to assume it's the majority view) feel that there's no need for the offer, the club should return on a short term deal. However Sisu have always stated they won't work with ACL, so I guess the hope was that this would overcome that particular log jam.

However it seems like CCFC gonna CCFC as always.

I'm going to start treating supporting this club like watching a terrible B movie in the hope that "it's so bad, it's good".
 

sky blue john

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #43
Nick said:
Waiting for confirmation that I can post it up.
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Well done lets hope its positive.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #44
sky blue john said:
Nick, yourself and a few others who have had meetings with ML and have his email address. Instead of trying to batter Michael why don't you show some bottle and contact ML directly and ask what the current situation is ???
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because they would have to put there wooden spoons down and do something constructive.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #45
skybluetony176 said:
because they would have to put there wooden spoons down and do something constructive.
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Except Nick did email ML, so this looks a little silly.
 
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wince

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #46
Waiting for confirmation that I can post it up.
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so you want M,O to post detail of million pound deals , but you have to wait to get conformation weather you can post if M.L has email him with dates and times for a meeting , sorry mate just does not make any sence
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #47
skybluetony176 said:
because they would have to put there wooden spoons down and do something constructive.
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What have you done then? Apart from criticise those trying to get more info. That seems constructive and a good use of time.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #48
Nick said:
Is asking somebody a yes or no question really battering them? Jesus nobody is being battered.

Ahh so you mean I contact ML, post up what he says and then you say "You are doing SISU's PR". I get what you did there.
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Like i said to you in another thread, if you got as animated about the many dozens if not hundreds of questions sisu need to answer for their actions and in other cases lack of actions i could take you a lot more seriously.

when did anyone say you should post on here what ML tells you in a private email?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #49
mark82 said:
Except Nick did email ML, so this looks a little silly.
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i havent got that far in the thread yet. have any of the other critics or are they still looking for their wooden spoon rest?
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #50
wince said:
so you want M,O to post detail of million pound deals , but you have to wait to get conformation weather you can post if M.L has email him with dates and times for a meeting , sorry mate just does not make any sence
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I don't think nick wants every single detail, just certain things. He knows you have to be careful about what's put on here. I don't understand how it doesn't make sense. It's about time people realised that blindly agreeing to stuff is part of the reason we're in this crap in the first place.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #51
FFS, you've just said that to the guy who started this whole stirring thread in the first place!

skybluetony176 said:
because they would have to put there wooden spoons down and do something constructive.
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #52
wince said:
so you want M,O to post detail of million pound deals , but you have to wait to get conformation weather you can post if M.L has email him with dates and times for a meeting , sorry mate just does not make any sence
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It does if you expect to get further responses.

All people are asking for is details before jumping to conclusions on whether the club should/will accept. If Michael can't give detail that is fine and he should say so. Then people would just have to wait and see but you can't criticize the club for rejecting if you don't know full details - would you not agree?
 

Gint11

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #53
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Sky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Blue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!John!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #54
skybluetony176 said:
Like i said to you in another thread, if you got as animated about the many dozens if not hundreds of questions sisu need to answer for their actions and in other cases lack of actions i could take you a lot more seriously.

when did anyone say you should post on here what ML tells you in a private email?
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Please look 2 posts above yours.
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #55
Nick said:
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I agree but if it was private then why is he making statements and going to the CET?
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Making a general outline of the plan public shows the fans that something is being attempted to break the deadlock, without breaking the confidentiality of the backers. It's documented by the press and not verbal heresay, so no chinese whispers like "apparently, KCIC have been talking to SISU" or "the word in Bennos canteen is" etc. Getting the idea out this way also puts a bit of pressure on SISU to consider it, or state the reasons why they dismiss it.

Ctrl C Ctrl V
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #56
skybluetony176 said:
i havent got that far in the thread yet. have any of the other critics or are they still looking for their wooden spoon rest?
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Nick - can we introduce an idiot test on login to weed out some of these dumb unintelligible responses?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #57
Nick said:
Waiting for confirmation that I can post it up.
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what? so ML can use email? no reason for him not to contact Micheal by email then is there?

while he's at it he can cc TF & JS in, then all the main players are in the loop. Someone has got permission fro JS havent they to say that they are willing to talk, we dont want another handshake on a deal situation only for it to be overturned from a higher force.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #58
kg82 said:
I don't think nick wants every single detail, just certain things. He knows you have to be careful about what's put on here. I don't understand how it doesn't make sense. It's about time people realised that blindly agreeing to stuff is part of the reason we're in this crap in the first place.
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Exactly my point, I have never asked for every bit of detail.
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #59
skybluetony176 said:
what? so ML can use email? no reason for him not to contact Micheal by email then is there?

while he's at it he can cc TF & JS in, then all the main players are in the loop. Someone has got permission fro JS havent they to say that they are willing to talk, we dont want another handshake on a deal situation only for it to be overturned from a higher force.
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Michael's already said he HAS emailed him!
 
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wince

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #60
It does if you expect to get further responses.

All people are asking for is details before jumping to conclusions on whether the club should/will accept. If Michael can't give detail that is fine and he should say so. Then people would just have to wait and see but you can't criticize the club for rejecting if you don't know full details - would you not agree?
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No the question was have you (Ml) e-mailed M.O with times and dates of when they can meet , and nick says he has to wait for comformation before he can post an answer to this question , but at the same time wants details posted of million pounds deals ???
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #61
Nick said:
What do you want to know? Happy to ask.
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Can you ask him to get TF and JS to meet Michaels backers and the new man running ACL in my back garden this Saturday

I will put on a BBQ with a selection of PIMS, Cold Rose wine, Coventry Beers and Cold Coronas' with a wedge of lime in the top of the bottle.

The finest organic meat home made kebabs.

Also will have Mr Probz Waves song playing in the background setting the ambience for a successful business BBQ.

We will skype Joy

No one leaves till CCFC are renting at the Ricoh again

Cheers
 
Last edited: Jun 25, 2014

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #62
wince said:
so you want M,O to post detail of million pound deals , but you have to wait to get conformation weather you can post if M.L has email him with dates and times for a meeting , sorry mate just does not make any sence
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If it was a private email between me and Michael with answers I would check to see if I could post it up but I gave him trying to PM Michael a long time ago as that just got ignored too If Michael was to PM me info about the questions then of course I wouldn't post it without checking that it was ok first.

I am not the type to start BCC'ing people into conversations without them knowing.
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #63
kg82 said:
Michael's already said he HAS emailed him!
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Yes, but reading his latest post appears he has sent a reply to ML, unless there's another post I've missed. Protocol would appear the ball is in MLs court....

I did receive an email this morning and replied "Great! Mark, please just email me details for meeting and I will share with colleagues". I have not as yet received a response.
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #64
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wince

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #65
If it was a private email between me and Michael with answers I would check to see if I could post it up but I gave him trying to PM Michael a long time ago as that just got ignored too If Michael was to PM me info about the questions then of course I wouldn't post it without checking that it was ok first.

I am not the type to start BCC'ing people into conversations without them knowing
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Ok you asked what did i want you to ask M.L i said asked him if he has e-mailed M.O about a meeting (yes or no) was what i was looking for , you can not answer it ,fair enough
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #66
RegTheDonk said:
Yes, but reading his latest post appears he has sent a reply to ML, unless there's another post I've missed. Protocol would appear the ball is in MLs court....
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I didn't say it wasn't, just that ML has emailed.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #67
wince said:
No the question was have you (Ml) e-mailed M.O with times and dates of when they can meet , and nick says he has to wait for comformation before he can post an answer to this question , but at the same time wants details posted of million pounds deals ???
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There's a difference between posting a private email and asking questions on something posted on an open forum. Surely you can see that?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #68
kg82 said:
Michael's already said he HAS emailed him!
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yes, i was replying to the post nick made about waiting for confirmation that he could post the reply from ML so I'm aware of that.

my point was that some were making out on another thread that MO should accept a phone call from ML presumably as ML hasn't been taught how to use an email yet as its still the 1980's.

turns out he can use an email so if he's serious about talking to KCIC and there backers why cant he send him an email and copy the relevant sisu people in so they can see at the same time how things are progressing, MO can reply to all and also copy in his backers so they to can see how things are progressing. Too simple?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #69
wince said:
Ok you asked what did i want you to ask M.L i said asked him if he has e-mailed M.O about a meeting (yes or no) was what i was looking for , you can not answer it ,fair enough
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They have had a text conversion that I know so far but will ask about emails, Michael had said he has had one.
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2014
  • #70
skybluetony176 said:
yes, i was replying to the post nick made about waiting for confirmation that he could post the reply from ML so I'm aware of that.

my point was that some were making out on another thread that MO should accept a phone call from ML presumably as ML hasn't been taught how to use an email yet as its still the 1980's.

turns out he can use an email so if he's serious about talking to KCIC and there backers why cant he send him an email and copy the relevant sisu people in so they can see at the same time how things are progressing, MO can reply to all and also copy in his backers so they to can see how things are progressing. Too simple?
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Do we know this hasn't been done? It's not like Michael's on here every few minutes giving us live updates?
 
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