If we lose tomorrow we are relegated... (6 Viewers)

Otis said:

As I've said I was delighted with a draw on Saturday and will be delighted with a draw tomorrow and then again on Saturday. Won't do our league position much good, but I will still see them as all positive results. 2 draws and a defeat would look quite bleak for us in terms of that most likely resulting in a further slide down the league table. Not that we have got much further to slide of course.

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Mate, what we need is goals. We are that flat on the attack we make Fearne Cotton's tits look like Jordans.

Our 2 big downfalls which will probably see us relegated is lack of goals and the conceding of late goals. Our goal difference shows were not a poor side -6 compared to -14 and -15 of the other 2 in the relegation zone.

By the same token though you don't get points for playing pretty football and the goal difference thing will only count for anything if we are up on the same points as those teams in the bottom 3.

Otis said:

By the same token though you don't get points for playing pretty football and the goal difference thing will only count for anything if we are up on the same points as those teams in the bottom 3.

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I agree, we play neat football but no end product. I had an argument with a lad Saturday at Donny. He was claiming its entertaining football nowadays like the Black Era. I thought he was pissed. There's nothing entertaining about our current football. Nice and neat yes but not entertaining.

Otis said:

By the same token though you don't get points for playing pretty football and the goal difference thing will only count for anything if we are up on the same points as those teams in the bottom 3.

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And do you win games by playing hoof-ball? No, you don't, as we should know full well after the likes of Adams, Dowie and Boothroyd. Yet EVERYDAY people on here keep stating it as a fact that if we simply stop trying to pass the ball to a man in Sky Blue, we'll suddenly start winning. WAKE UP PEOPLE, WE HAVE THE SHITEST SQUAD IN THE DIVISION!!! Long ball would guarantee nothing, and most likely lead to poorer results-and DEFINITELY lead to more goals conceded, as we would have the ball much less.

Nonleagueherewecome said:

And do you win games by playing hoof-ball? No, you don't, as we should know full well after the likes of Adams, Dowie and Boothroyd. Yet EVERYDAY people on here keep stating it as a fact that if we simply stop trying to pass the ball to a man in Sky Blue, we'll suddenly start winning. WAKE UP PEOPLE, WE HAVE THE SHITEST SQUAD IN THE DIVISION!!! Long ball would guarantee nothing, and most likely lead to poorer results-and DEFINITELY lead to more goals conceded, as we would have the ball much less.

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No,you don't win games by simply playing football, but that wasn't my point. Maybe I wasn't clear. What I was trying to put across is all that we've heard this season is that the football is better and that we are passing the ball about and that because of this the perception with many is that this then in turn makes us a better side. Well, it doesn't. It's just nicer to watch.

I like us playing this style of football. It's all powder puff though. There is no cutting edge, no penetration and therefore when we have the periods of possession we don't hurt teams enough. Bottom line is that this team isn't better simply because it plays pretty pretty football.

Nonleagueherewecome said:

And do you win games by playing hoof-ball? No, you don't, as we should know full well after the likes of Adams, Dowie and Boothroyd. Yet EVERYDAY people on here keep stating it as a fact that if we simply stop trying to pass the ball to a man in Sky Blue, we'll suddenly start winning. WAKE UP PEOPLE, WE HAVE THE SHITEST SQUAD IN THE DIVISION!!! Long ball would guarantee nothing, and most likely lead to poorer results-and DEFINITELY lead to more goals conceded, as we would have the ball much less.

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Where did I mention playing the long ball? I feel we need a mixture. Not only that but the attractive football will only work if you have a decent playmaker running the show I.e A Dennis Wise Esq player. We haven't so the manager needs to think of a way of creating more chances because at the moment were not. That's our main issue. Like I said further up, we are not that bad. Goal difference of -6 shows that. Others around us in double figures. We just having got that threat going forward.

Otis said:

No,you don't win games by simply playing football, but that wasn't my point. Maybe I wasn't clear. What I was trying to put across is all that we've heard this season is that the football is better and that we are passing the ball about and that because of this the perception with many is that this then in turn makes us a better side. Well, it doesn't. It's just nicer to watch.

I like us playing this style of football. It's all powder puff though. There is no cutting edge, no penetration and therefore when we have the periods of possession we don't hurt teams enough. Bottom line is that this team isn't better simply because it plays pretty pretty football.

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Whereas my point, made until I'm (sky) blue in the face, is that we are getting much better results than we would playing hoof-ball. If we keep giving the ball straight to the opposition, as previous Coventry teams have, we would be conceding much more. Young players are also learning through playing this style whereas they would not be of interest to top-flight teams if we were playing Boothroyd tactics. And the players WANT to play this way, not long-ball, another indicator that performances would be WORSE, not better, if we played a different style.

My point is: short passing football DOESN'T equal bad results, and hoofball doesn't equal good results. It just seems that way as we have a crap squad-and in particular, only 2 strikers worthy of the name, one who has missed pre-season, one who is not a natural goalscorer. That is a major reason why we lack penetration. Hoofing it up to them would NOT solve that, the ball would just come back quicker. They have showed signs of gelling. To abandon the seasons work in favour of a direct game would be entirely counter-productive.