I guess it's like the would you go to stans threads - I never said yes or no until it was announced and certain what would happenI voted finish the season, but to be honest if it’s like September and players have moved on or whatever I’d probably say call it as it is, it all starts to get a bit messy once you get past summer.
Call it points per game now. I highly doubt the season is finishing. We are in this for the long haul.
I’ll even call next season possibly not starting on time by a long way.
So why call this season now? If next season isn't likely to start on time why put pressure on two separate seasons. Finish this one, see where we are and if there's no time to play next season sack it off and restart with 2021/22
So why call this season now? If next season isn't likely to start on time why put pressure on two separate seasons. Finish this one, see where we are and if there's no time to play next season sack it off and restart with 2021/22
heard that was a red herring, as they were going to get an advance loan to cover itOne of the reasons Scottish clubs were in favour of wrapping up was because they are then entitled to the reward money paid out for final league position, not sure if the same happens in the EFL though
Work out your average points per game (divide total points by number of games) then add that value for every game you have left to play.Can someone explain to me points per game?
One of the reasons Scottish clubs were in favour of wrapping up was because they are then entitled to the reward money paid out for final league position, not sure if the same happens in the EFL though
So why call this season now? If next season isn't likely to start on time why put pressure on two separate seasons. Finish this one, see where we are and if there's no time to play next season sack it off and restart with 2021/22
Personally I think it has to completed no matter what. I don’t agree with PPG as football isn’t as simple as saying team A will beat team B because they’ve accumulated more points over the season. How many times we did stay up in the Premier League by the skin of our teeth?
Watford have beat Liverpool this season and Norwich have beat Man City
Call it points per game now. I highly doubt the season is finishing. We are in this for the long haul.
I’ll even call next season possibly not starting on time by a long way.
I would agree but it’s a more preferable option to hull and void.
I don’t agree with PPG as football isn’t as simple as saying team A will beat team B because they’ve accumulated more points over the season. How many times we did stay up in the Premier League by the skin of our teeth?
Watford have beat Liverpool this season and Norwich have beat Man City
PPG please.
My view, clubs will go bust without revenue from league positions in final table. Some will go bust anyway so we could see more promoted to league above. It’s going to get messy over the next few months anyway.
I agree. This is only the first wave, we're probably not even close to being 50% of the way through this yet. We may be able to sneak in a few games behind closed doors before September but by then there will be another round of lock down and it will be called off again. Only my opinion.
Personally I think it has to completed no matter what. I don’t agree with PPG as football isn’t as simple as saying team A will beat team B because they’ve accumulated more points over the season. How many times we did stay up in the Premier League by the skin of our teeth?
Watford have beat Liverpool this season and Norwich have beat Man City
Because the muti-billion £ TV deal, that's why. The league have already said they don't favour any scenario that impacts on next season.So why call this season now? If next season isn't likely to start on time why put pressure on two separate seasons. Finish this one, see where we are and if there's no time to play next season sack it off and restart with 2021/22
You get the same cash if you finish 1st or 24th in leagues 1 and 2. I think they are already intending to advance that.PPG please.
My view, clubs will go bust without revenue from league positions in final table. Some will go bust anyway so we could see more promoted to league above. It’s going to get messy over the next few months anyway.
Because the muti-billion £ TV deal, that's why. The league have already said they don't favour any scenario that impacts on next season.
So what we’re basically saying is however you work it out we won the league and the rest can fuck offRight, got bored today and crunched some numbers. If we finish PPG then Wycombe shoot up from outside the playoffs into third, which if they did promotion without play-offs as some are calling for they go up. Do you think Oxford will be happy with that, currently in third? Or indeed Portsmouth and Fleetwood who are only not in 3rd on GD. Even Peterborough would be annoyed if they did play-offs later on cos they'd now miss out on them.
I also did my adjusted PPG table taking into account the fixtures and current league position and that has Fleetwood overtaking Oxford in third and Peterborough also missing out to Wycombe in play-offs.
I then considered whether this was fair seeing as some of the clubs are only separated by goal difference (Oxford, Portsmouth and Fleetwood) and thus affected the result.
I also did an adjusted table taking into account fixtures from the PPG table and even that ever so slightly changed the PPG table although didn't affect any of the places for promotion/play-offs/relegation from the original PPG table.
I also took into account Bolton's situation. Do you take PPG as (current points in table/current games) or take it as ((points earned/current games)-12 point deduction). This had no material affect on the outcome - they still finish bottom but with a few more points is all.
So any decision to arbitrarily end the season now (given it's not written in the rules/constitution as how they'd finish a season in extraordinary circumstances) this is a litigation nightmare for them. They'd be fighting court cases here, there and everywhere.
So here's my tables:
PPG
1 Coventry (1) 86.71
2 Rotherham (2) 77.94
3 Wycombe (8) 76.35
4 Oxford (3) 75.43
5 Portsmouth (4) 75.43
6 Fleetwood (5) 75.43
7 Peterborough (6) 74.17
8 Sunderland (7) 72.11
9 Doncaster (9) 69.88
10 Gillingham (11) 64.11
11 Ipswich (10) 63.56
12 Burton (12) 60.34
13 Blackpool (13) 56.57
14 Bristol R (14) 56.57
15 Shrewsbury (16) 53.06
16 Lincoln (15) 52.80
17 Accrington (17) 50.29
18 Rochdale (19) 46.59
19 MK Dons (18) 46.51
20 Wimbledon (20) 44.00
21 Tranmere (21) 41.41
22 Southend (22) 23.89
23 Bolton (23) 18.12
xPPG based on current table placings
1 Coventry (1) 91.53
2 Rotherham (2) 81.94
3 Fleetwood (5) 79.21
4 Oxford (3) 79.17
5 Portsmouth (4) 78.30
6 Wycombe (8) 78.05
7 Peterborough (6) 77.56
8 Sunderland (7) 74.37
9 Doncaster (9) 71.93
10 Ipswich (10) 65.51
11 Gillingham (11) 64.55
12 Burton (12) 59.60
13 Blackpool (13) 55.48
14 Bristol R (14) 55.31
15 Lincoln (15) 52.15
16 Shrewsbury (16) 51.41
17 Accrington (17) 46.98
18 Rochdale (19) 44.24
19 MK Dons (18) 44.08
20 Wimbledon (20) 41.13
21 Tranmere (21) 36.98
22 Southend (22) 19.36
23 Bolton (23) 12.42
xPPG based on PPG table standings
1 Coventry (1) 91.42
2 Rotherham (2) 81.77
3 Wycombe (8) 80.27
4 Fleetwood (5) 79.34
5 Oxford (3) 78.19
6 Portsmouth (4) 78.04
7 Peterborough (6) 77.17
8 Sunderland (7) 74.05
9 Doncaster (9) 72.08
10 Ipswich (10) 64.79
11 Gillingham (11) 64.74
12 Burton (12) 59.39
13 Bristol R (14) 55.68
14 Blackpool (13) 55.38
15 Shrewsbury (16) 51.78
16 Lincoln (15) 51.47
17 Accrington (17) 46.83
18 Rochdale (19) 44.89
19 MK Dons (18) 43.84
20 Wimbledon (20) 40.96
21 Tranmere (21) 37.11
22 Southend (22) 19.19
23 Bolton (23) 12.55
It doesn't matter if they're not happy the rules are applied consistentlyRight, got bored today and crunched some numbers. If we finish PPG then Wycombe shoot up from outside the playoffs into third, which if they did promotion without play-offs as some are calling for they go up. Do you think Oxford will be happy with that, currently in third? Or indeed Portsmouth and Fleetwood who are only not in 3rd on GD. Even Peterborough would be annoyed if they did play-offs later on cos they'd now miss out on them.
I also did my adjusted PPG table taking into account the fixtures and current league position and that has Fleetwood overtaking Oxford in third and Peterborough also missing out to Wycombe in play-offs.
I then considered whether this was fair seeing as some of the clubs are only separated by goal difference (Oxford, Portsmouth and Fleetwood) and thus affected the result.
I also did an adjusted table taking into account fixtures from the PPG table and even that ever so slightly changed the PPG table although didn't affect any of the places for promotion/play-offs/relegation from the original PPG table.
I also took into account Bolton's situation. Do you take PPG as (current points in table/current games) or take it as ((points earned/current games)-12 point deduction). This had no material affect on the outcome - they still finish bottom but with a few more points is all.
So any decision to arbitrarily end the season now (given it's not written in the rules/constitution as how they'd finish a season in extraordinary circumstances) this is a litigation nightmare for them. They'd be fighting court cases here, there and everywhere.
So here's my tables:
PPG
1 Coventry (1) 86.71
2 Rotherham (2) 77.94
3 Wycombe (8) 76.35
4 Oxford (3) 75.43
5 Portsmouth (4) 75.43
6 Fleetwood (5) 75.43
7 Peterborough (6) 74.17
8 Sunderland (7) 72.11
9 Doncaster (9) 69.88
10 Gillingham (11) 64.11
11 Ipswich (10) 63.56
12 Burton (12) 60.34
13 Blackpool (13) 56.57
14 Bristol R (14) 56.57
15 Shrewsbury (16) 53.06
16 Lincoln (15) 52.80
17 Accrington (17) 50.29
18 Rochdale (19) 46.59
19 MK Dons (18) 46.51
20 Wimbledon (20) 44.00
21 Tranmere (21) 41.41
22 Southend (22) 23.89
23 Bolton (23) 18.12
xPPG based on current table placings
1 Coventry (1) 91.53
2 Rotherham (2) 81.94
3 Fleetwood (5) 79.21
4 Oxford (3) 79.17
5 Portsmouth (4) 78.30
6 Wycombe (8) 78.05
7 Peterborough (6) 77.56
8 Sunderland (7) 74.37
9 Doncaster (9) 71.93
10 Ipswich (10) 65.51
11 Gillingham (11) 64.55
12 Burton (12) 59.60
13 Blackpool (13) 55.48
14 Bristol R (14) 55.31
15 Lincoln (15) 52.15
16 Shrewsbury (16) 51.41
17 Accrington (17) 46.98
18 Rochdale (19) 44.24
19 MK Dons (18) 44.08
20 Wimbledon (20) 41.13
21 Tranmere (21) 36.98
22 Southend (22) 19.36
23 Bolton (23) 12.42
xPPG based on PPG table standings
1 Coventry (1) 91.42
2 Rotherham (2) 81.77
3 Wycombe (8) 80.27
4 Fleetwood (5) 79.34
5 Oxford (3) 78.19
6 Portsmouth (4) 78.04
7 Peterborough (6) 77.17
8 Sunderland (7) 74.05
9 Doncaster (9) 72.08
10 Ipswich (10) 64.79
11 Gillingham (11) 64.74
12 Burton (12) 59.39
13 Bristol R (14) 55.68
14 Blackpool (13) 55.38
15 Shrewsbury (16) 51.78
16 Lincoln (15) 51.47
17 Accrington (17) 46.83
18 Rochdale (19) 44.89
19 MK Dons (18) 43.84
20 Wimbledon (20) 40.96
21 Tranmere (21) 37.11
22 Southend (22) 19.19
23 Bolton (23) 12.55
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