RoboCCFC90
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You best take that picture of igwe off. It makes you look a tad two faced.
Am I following this thread right.
After listening to TF at the forum you are falling in line to follow him.
CCFC will never own the stadium but I would sooner ACL own it than SISU.
Don't fall into the trap of believing everything TF tells you.
So you think losing thousands of fans, taking club debt up to at least £100m and moving to a shed of a ground is worth it for £600k a year?
Most of us agree that acl are not totally blameless.
We have 70million reasons though why we should do everything we can to get Sisu out of our club !!!
You possibly still can't think there is a sustainable way forward with Sisu still in control ?
And therein lies the problem. People supporting the Council rather than CCFC - and it is CCFC because SISU own CCFC. The two are inseperable at present. So hurt SISU and you hurt the Club.
I don't believe everything he tells me. Similarly I don't believe everything PWKH tells me either.
Im sure the usual chearleaders will be happy in sisus crappy 11k stadium with about 2k fans.3rd tier and lower forever if these idiots stay in charge.Some people are to scared not to follow dim tim and to dum not to see the truth.:jerkit: The club needs to own its revenue streams but people seem to forget we sold them:facepalm:Hopefully the ricoh and the club can be united when the leeches have gone.
So you think losing thousands of fans, taking club debt up to at least £100m and moving to a shed of a ground is worth it for £600k a year?
Can't believe there are those that have been taken in by him! If anything my resolve has strengthened as I think he showed himself up as the slimy, untrustworthy, patronising git he is, who just made more thinly veiled threats to obliterate my club off the face of the earth if we don't all go along with their ill thought out and potentially catastrophic plan. Absolute tosser!
Actually, a few more miles does bother me. I stated to TF at last weeks forum that I will not renew my season ticket if we play home games outside of Cov. That still stands.Reinforced by him only inviting out of town fans to his first forum at Ryton. These people travel anyway so a few miles more (or less) would not bother them. He sounds a good talker and people are listening but not comprehending.
Give him a few weeks and he will be holding Nuremburg rallies for the brainwashed.
I posed this question to TF last week, he couldn't answer it. He almost seemed to accept that we may drop further down.My question is if it is not possible to stay at the Ricoh because of fair play rules as we have no revenues, surely in the 3 years we are ground sharing these rules will still apply and we will still have no revenue streams meaning the squad will have to make massive cuts which could lead us dropping even lower to League 2 and further?
My question is if it is not possible to stay at the Ricoh because of fair play rules as we have no revenues, surely in the 3 years we are ground sharing these rules will still apply and we will still have no revenue streams meaning the squad will have to make massive cuts which could lead us dropping even lower to League 2 and further?
Can't believe there are those that have been taken in by him! If anything my resolve has strengthened as I think he showed himself up as the slimy, untrustworthy, patronising git he is, who just made more thinly veiled threats to obliterate my club off the face of the earth if we don't all go along with their ill thought out and potentially catastrophic plan. Absolute tosser!
Different day, same old shite
I rather see CCFC liquidate than it sitting in league1 or 2 without any ambitions and moving to a tin pot stadium. This is not the sky blue way.
I agree with you!
I think TF is a very bad representative for SISU and not very convincing at all. But I don't think that necessarily means that SISU's plans are particularly bad - given the corner they have been forced into.
We still don't know all the facts, and maybe we never will.
One possible scenario has occurred to me that could explain the few "facts" (some of them contradictory) that we have been allowed to hear from both sides.
The PH4 bid would be neither here or there, pretty much the same to the council as SISU.
But suppose the Byng proposal had been canvased to the Council in confidence some time before it became public...... (not an unlikely prospect if you think about it?)
The Byng proposal promises waves of infrastructure development including railways and new jobs with it.
This could very possibly be a very preferable option to the council and could explain why they did an about face on a deal being developed with SISU to take over ACL's debt and the subsequent actions trying to push SISU out?
AND incidentally encouraging the fans to do it for them!
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The thing is though once he leaves the Ricoh he can no longer blame them for anything. Any future relegations will be down to him.
And I feel many others did too. He is right when it comes to income we need every penny we can get. If the council have been cunts then I don't blame SISU in a way.
Maybe a new ground will be a good thing, least the 'club' will own it.
But the club wont own the ground...sisu will own the ground and we will still be paying rent .And that ground will not be in Coventry.
Hopefully the ricoh and the club can be united when the leeches have gone.
So if SISU build a new stadium, who will own it?
They are a hedge fund, they will not give anything away.
They will need finance to build it, these people will use it as an investment?
And who will own the ground if Haskell takes over? Or the Chinese? Or the Americans? Or fucking aliens? They will!! CCFC will NEVER own anything. Just faceless hedge funds, multinational corporations, etc etc.
My sentiments exactly... Fishers PR are doing a great job grooming some of our docile Sky Blue fans in there way of thinking. Can't you see these meetings are just to big his ego ... anything that comes out of that mans mouth can not be trusted. These are the reasons why I do not attend these pointless forums as to be frank, there is nothing he can ever say to me that will change my mind. I have better things to do than entertain him and SISU.
Since SISU have been in control of CCFC since 2008, all I have seen are owners with serious lack of ambitions for the club and some of our sky blue supporters we have in our midst keep backing them have the same lack of ambition.
I rather see CCFC liquidate than it sitting in league1 or 2 without any ambitions and moving to a tin pot stadium. This is not the sky blue way.
I completely agree with these statements - I am fed up with the lack of achievement without any glimmers of hope.
sisu are willing to do what haskell and byng want to do for cov but council wont allow this
for fans easy option is new owners, but for sisu(a business) they have to find alterntive route to success which will take longer and piss off fans
if the council just gave sisu same benefits of new bidders we would be in a win-win situation
its the council messing us up most right now, sisu have made mistakes but they now want to turn this club around, but the council are pushing them to do this the hard way and thus the fans are too being forced on this path.
I think they both offer the Council the future development /job creation the Council have said SISU's plan going forward cannot.
sisu are willing to do what haskell and byng want to do for cov but council wont allow this
for fans easy option is new owners, but for sisu(a business) they have to find alterntive route to success which will take longer and piss off fans
if the council just gave sisu same benefits of new bidders we would be in a win-win situation
its the council messing us up most right now, sisu have made mistakes but they now want to turn this club around, but the council are pushing them to do this the hard way and thus the fans are too being forced on this path.
Are you for real? Have you not understood anything that has gone on for the last 18 months??
Ok, perhaps now it looks as though we can look at all bidders on an equal basis and decide which is preferable,
but remember before being forced into administration SISU were the current owners and should not have been forced into a corner by other stakeholders just because another option came up that was preferable to the council.
Even now SISU are still the current owners be it as Holdings or Ltd - they own both so what does it matter!
Even if we prefer Byng and the council prefers Byng, its still up to SISU if they do or don't want to sell!
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