Hypothetical question (1 Viewer)

skybluelee · Aug 18, 2011

Driving into work this hideously rainy morning I, as usual, started to muse about the current financial mess we are in and posed the following question to myself (in my mind, not out loud - that would have been weird);

If a potential investor put the following hypothetical offer on the table would you be in favour?;

An investment of such magnitude that it would clearly would put us up with the big 4 within 5 years but the club would have to change its colours to, say, red?

And if you answer yes to that, what if the condition was to change the club colours and the badge?

I, possibly stupidly, wouldn't be in favour of either because I value the Club's traditions too much despite the day by day misery that following CCFC brings me.

We'll_live_and_die · Aug 18, 2011

Let me know when you are out in the car. Ill make sure I stay indoors. You are crazy fool. No and its impossible you plonker look at blackburn.

Otis · Aug 18, 2011

Yep. Of course I would turn down the naff prospect of being one of the top 4 sides in the whole country so I could keep our really, really important badge.

And after all, we've always played in Sky Blue haven't we, right from day one back in1883.

Nick · Aug 18, 2011

I'd change colours straight away, and the badge

We'll_live_and_die · Aug 18, 2011

your all just glory supporters. I'm ashamed

Gray · Aug 18, 2011

If it ment us winning the league I wouldn't even mind pink with red poka dots

bamalamafizzfazz · Aug 18, 2011

Nick said:
I'd change colours straight away, and the badge

SNAP!! I'd let them change the name to Coventry Shitty too of it meant they guaranteed a top four team* challenging for success.

*assuming top four means champions league and not Championship playoffs

les_miserables · Aug 18, 2011

Otis said:
Yep. Of course I would turn down the naff prospect of being one of the top 4 sides in the whole country so I could keep our really, really important badge.

And after all, we've always played in Sky Blue haven't we, right from day one back in1883.

No we haven't, from 1962 and although credited with it it wasn't strictly Jimmy Hills idea to wear Sky Blue, it was supposed to be Coventry Blue which is somewhere inbetween royal blue and sky blue. It was Derek Henderson (Nemo) who christened us the Sky Blues and it stuck.

skybluelee · Aug 18, 2011

We wouldn't be Coventry City to me (only 35 so never known a City side not playing in that colour) if we wore red and changed the badge so it would be no different to deciding today to change allegience and start supporting Arsenal or Liverpool.

smileycov · Aug 18, 2011

Nope, beacuse it would no longer be us would it.....may aswell buy madrid and bring em over to cov.

i would dearly love to be up there with the big boys, but we never have. Just a team that competes would do me. What ever happens happens, all i ask is that we have a full squad and play good football, results are nice but i will never stop supporting us just beacuse we never quite make promotion.

The Reverend Skyblue · Aug 18, 2011

Les, i think Otis was being sarcastic about being in skyblue since 1883.
Your correct of course in what you said,but i sensed a bit of harmless sarcasim in his reply,though i may be wrong again.

The Rev

Otis · Aug 18, 2011

les_miserables said:
No we haven't, from 1962 and although credited with it it wasn't strictly Jimmy Hills idea to wear Sky Blue, it was supposed to be Coventry Blue which is somewhere inbetween royal blue and sky blue. It was Derek Henderson (Nemo) who christened us the Sky Blues and it stuck.

Well hence the sarcasm and the roll your eyes smiley I put at the end of the post. You are correct Rev. Being completely sarcastic and that was why I said being in the top 4 would be naff and the badge is so much more important! Was being totally sarcastic, but maybe that didn't come through enough in my post.

Most make mental note to be more sarcastic in the future!!

ccfcway · Aug 18, 2011

I be happy for them to change the club to "Ball Bag FC" and play at the memorial park in exchange for one point at the moment !

crowsnest · Aug 18, 2011

skybluelee said:
Driving into work this hideously rainy morning I, as usual, started to muse about the current financial mess we are in and posed the following question to myself (in my mind, not out loud - that would have been weird);

If a potential investor put the following hypothetical offer on the table would you be in favour?;

An investment of such magnitude that it would clearly would put us up with the big 4 within 5 years but the club would have to change its colours to, say, red?

And if you answer yes to that, what if the condition was to change the club colours and the badge?

I, possibly stupidly, wouldn't be in favour of either because I value the Club's traditions too much despite the day by day misery that following CCFC brings me.

Are you thinking of Red Bull who took over Salzburg?

After the takeover, Red Bull changed the club's name, management, and staff, declaring "this is a new club with no history." Red Bull initially claimed on the club website that the club was founded in 2005, but was ordered to remove this claim by the Austrian F.A. The new authority removed all trace of violet from the club logo and the team now play in the colours of red and white, to the consternation of much of the club's traditional support. A small pair of wings form the motif of the new club crest, displayed on the team jersey, in accordance with Red Bull's commercial slogan at the time: "It gives you wings."

Il Pirata · Aug 18, 2011

I hope they would eat chicken drumsticks in the changing room too.

The club would die as it once was, just like FC Al-Shabaab Billionaire Boys Club up in Manchester. The other downside being that the average fan will eventually be priced out of watching the team. Plus glory hangers on.

The upside being that Coventry would have a potentially great sports team which would be known across the world. As long as the name Coventry stayed in there somewhere I'd accept it.

Never mind football looking into the next 5-10 years, imagine what it will be further on, it won't resemble today's football let alone that from 30 years ago.

Il Pirata · Aug 18, 2011

crowsnest said:
Are you thinking of Red Bull who took over Salzburg?

See this also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SV_Austria_Salzburg

The club was formed in 2005, by some of the supporters of the original SV (Austria) Salzburg after it was renamed FC Red Bull Salzburg by new owners who also changed the club's colours from its traditional violet and white to red and white. The club started participation in the seventh tier of Austria's national league system in 2006, then rose through four successive championships to the third tier, Regionalliga West. After a fifth-place finish in the 2010-2011 season, it will remain in this league for the 2011-2012 season.

The original club was formed in 1933. It was subject to a takeover by the Red Bull company in 2005. They renamed the club FC Red Bull Salzburg, changed the team colours and claimed that it was a new team. This led a group of supporters, known as the "Violet-Whites", to want to preserve the 72-year old traditions of the old club, which they felt had been ignored by Red Bull.

If you want to watch 'real' old school football then you can do what they, FC Manchester and Wimbledon fans have done I guess. It's up to the individual.

Otis · Aug 18, 2011

Il Pirata said:
I hope they would eat chicken drumsticks in the changing room too.

The club would die as it once was, just like FC Al-Shabaab Billionaire Boys Club up in Manchester. The other downside being that the average fan will eventually be priced out of watching the team. Plus glory hangers on.

The upside being that Coventry would have a potentially great sports team which would be known across the world. As long as the name Coventry stayed in there somewhere I'd accept it.

Never mind football looking into the next 5-10 years, imagine what it will be further on, it won't resemble today's football let alone that from 30 years ago.

I'd be happy if we were called Mong City FC.

Except of course our friends up the M69 have already taken that mantle!

Jack Griffin · Aug 18, 2011

Can't we make it chocolate brown?

Tankie · Aug 18, 2011

Sky Blue Lee..
You could have opened a can of worms with this one, and opened the way for civil war to break out on this Board.
It is clear, that loyalty to the colour is more important to some supporters, than winning games, whilst playing attractive, exciting, football.
Loyalty to the kit colour, in my opinion is in my opinion Akin to the line in the "Sky Blue Song" which promises #While we sing together, we will never lose#.
AS a personal view, and I know this will be like slaying the "Sacred Cow" I find sky blue, insipid and wishy washy, is not bright enough to stand out on gloomy days, and that a "wishy washy"Strip gives "Wishy washy" Performances.
Some say it would break with tradition, but in the last twenty years, the tradition of CCFC, has been to lose matches, and play poor quality football, maybe its time for someone to grasp the nettle,change the Image of the club, and re invent ourselves, JImmy Hill did it, we didn't always play in sky Blue.
So in conclusion, it wouldn't bother me one Jot, if we played in Rainbow candy stripes, it would be worth the derision, Just to get a change of fortune, and haul us clear of this stinking bog, that wev'e been sinking into for these last few years.
Tankie the Heretic....

Johnnythespider · Aug 18, 2011

Firstly lee you should get up earlier, it was lovely when i left for work at 5:45 this morning. In answer to your question, in my mind tradition stifles progress so i'd be prepared to change just about anything about the club to join the big 4. Of course that might mean you having to change your user name, but i'm sure you'd get over it when Lionel Messi and Barca turned up for a champions league game.

bamalamafizzfazz · Aug 18, 2011

Let's face it chaps if all this hypothetically did happen then at least WE could all say to the glory supporters all over the world that WOULD start following the club that we were here during the bad decade when City playing in Sky Blue played in the second tier of English football. Now that is something I would always be proud of.

SkyBlueScottie · Aug 18, 2011

if we were successful the queues for the bar would be horrendous!

To be honest, I wouldnt want to be mega big! a yo yo club would be nice... (between the championship and Premiership obviously, not league ! and Championship)

sky blue john · Aug 18, 2011

Go back to bed you bloody dreamer !!!!!!!!
At CCFC we only live in the real World

covkid53 · Aug 18, 2011

No take over untill the club is in administration facing a wind up order, sisu can hope as much as the like for a buyer but 40 million in debt and 6 million a year losses...... we are deader than cordory flares. No-one will buy a club with that amount of debt unless they are very rich or very stupid.

Next stop, division 1 if we are lucky enough to survive.

Lets ditch the Sky Blue and go back to "Coventry" blue and white quartered shirts and the Bantams badge and nicknane........ COME ON YOU BANTAMS !!!!

egastap · Aug 18, 2011

This is what the Bantams wore when I first started supporting them!

egastap · Aug 18, 2011

SkyBlueScottie said:
if we were successful the queues for the bar would be horrendous!

To be honest, I wouldnt want to be mega big! a yo yo club would be nice... (between the championship and Premiership obviously, not league ! and Championship)

Actually, a yo-yo club would be ideal. A season with the big boys, relegated with a great pay-off........a bumper winning season to back up again (great for the fans)....and so on.

Dreaming though!

Mr T - Sukka! · Aug 18, 2011

Quit your jibber jabber.

Change to red? Are you pulling my middle leg?

Otis · Aug 19, 2011

covkid53 said:
No take over untill the club is in administration facing a wind up order, sisu can hope as much as the like for a buyer but 40 million in debt and 6 million a year losses...... we are deader than cordory flares. No-one will buy a club with that amount of debt unless they are very rich or very stupid.

Next stop, division 1 if we are lucky enough to survive.

Lets ditch the Sky Blue and go back to "Coventry" blue and white quartered shirts and the Bantams badge and nicknane........ COME ON YOU BANTAMS !!!!

Yes, but it is the Bantam Cock, so knowing the City as we do, we would now probably just be known as The Cocks.

skybluelee · Aug 19, 2011

For me our identity is our badge and colour. Take that away and you take away Coventry City. You might just as well go off and support Aston Villa now, it amounts to the same thing.

SkyBlueScottie · Aug 19, 2011

skybluelee said:
For me our identity is our badge and colour. Take that away and you take away Coventry City. You might just as well go off and support Aston Villa now, it amounts to the same thing.

which badge?

Astute · Aug 19, 2011

What is wrong with playing in red? We have played in red before, and are now seriously in the red. Would it be good enough having Sky Blue as our away strip?

covcity4life · Aug 19, 2011

i wanna be successfull in sky blue

top 4 for badge change i could accept,but not the colours

Otis · Aug 19, 2011

SkyBlueScottie said:
which badge?

Good point.

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